Our last governor, martin o'malley, had the nerve to call "his" illegals that he harbored in this state the 'future americans'. I called them un-documented democrats. I hope that the Don can carry oiut his idea of with holding federal funds to the safe haven cities. There are quite a few of them within Maryland's borders.
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Our last governor, martin o'malley, had the nerve to call "his" illegals that he harbored in this state the 'future americans'. I called them un-documented democrats. I hope that the Don can carry oiut his idea of with holding federal funds to the safe haven cities. There are quite a few of them within Maryland's borders.
WHITE-TRASH
I wanna be Dave
California Could Cut-Off Feds In Response To Trump Threats « CBS San Francisco
CA is thinking about flexing their muscles. Go for it. :lol:
CA is thinking about flexing their muscles. Go for it. :lol:
NoobCrawler
Rock Stacker
Wow...."and eventually a host of other relatives into permanent U.S. residency"...the hell?! So, not only is it an anchor baby for the parents, it whoever they want too...yikes.
TacoCrawler
I wanna be Dave
Then that makes you a supporter/defender of criminal behavior !?
If one came into this country illegally...
then they are disregarding our established laws and are uncaring of it's citizens.
Then they make a anchor baby so that child will be deemed a USA citizen
and they get a free pass to stay because of that ?
BS, BS, BS, etc.
this archaic interpretation of immigration law needs be changed immediately
No more anchor babies period.
My son started his first years of school with about 30 kids in a classroom...
then over the course of his next 11 years of schooling...
then the migrant onslaught/invasion came.
And the class size went up to 60 children in a classroom here.
and since english wasn't their primary language...
the system had to cater to those children to bring them on par with the others whom were attending.
That meant that any monies that should have been spent
on furthering USA citizen children's education was used elsewhere.
And my son's education was degraded because of that.
This is only one example of many.
There are many more if you care to look.
and that pisses me off... No matter how you label it.
California... the state I live in... is one of the most evil of all states.
And has diluted the rights of true USA citizens in favor of outsiders.
I hate this liberal government... and hope they fall.
Illegal is illegal... Criminal is Criminal.
Breaking or disregarding established law...
doesn't make you worthy of any citizenship, anywhere.
Breaking a country's law regarding immigration...
Means one is a criminal and forfeits their right to naturalization.
And the opportunity of ever becoming a legal citizen.
So leave... and take your anchor babies with you.
It is not the responsibility, nor obligation, of the citizens of the USA
to raise nor support the worlds children whom should not be here in the first place.
I have known and call many immigrants my friends...
And they've come here from all over the world.
But the difference is... they came here legally...
and applied for a green card so that they can work at a job.
While they attempt to upgrade their status and become a legal citizen.
Most all of them speak english and communicate with others acceptably
besides only knowing their own race or cultures language.
Tho' maybe not perfect... they made an honest attempt.
And I applaud them for that.
While they make their attempt at becoming a legal USA citizen...
they never became a burden to the USA citizens nor our Government.
They followed/respected the USA's established law and order
and always offer respect to others as long as they weren't threatened with harm.
More currently...
Some of the offspring of the invaders have joined into gangs...
and threaten/harm law abiding people around them.
Denying others of their right/attempt at seeking Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness is evil and should be dealt with immediately.
Don't believe me... look for yourself
Come to LA and walk yer butt down any street in south - east LA
and see if you survive that.
You likely won't... but good luck trying
This country is supposed to be about freedom for all...
I should be able to safely walk in any neighborhood...
wear any color of clothing or shoes I desire...
And i shouldn't be attacked /or killed because I chose to do so.
This may not be occurring in little towns across the midwest of this country...
But it's coming if nothing is done.
But in the bigger cities... it's become rampant and the law fails to enforce - punish this particular criminal behavior as it should.
Obama just signed a free pass to more criminals related to drug charges...
Naive at best... if one thinks these people will follow a straight path the remainder of their lives.
If they still have a felony record... I'm betting they will be shunned
and return to their ways of crime promptly.
They won't likely correct themselves... instead... they'll be stealing from you... or maybe even killing you for a measly $ 10. or your property.
Our jail systems aren't correctional facilities...
No one ever goes to jail and comes out being corrected.
Rather the opposite is the case that I've seen.
The punishment severity is not equivalent to the level of crimes being committed.
Some folk are not salvageable and do not value their life or others...
And ignoring that... will drag this society into the pits of despair...
Or death... whichever those criminals choose to impose upon you.
Justice, tho' softly worded, means nothing more then getting retribution - revenge in a convoluted way.
When in reality that's all yer gonna get... because it doesn't bring back your dead loved ones.
There is no such thing as justice... except in ones mind.
I'd suggest reverting back to the 1st testament...
and revamping justice so that it reads...
"an eye for an eye"
Nobody should have to become a victim of/by another...
and if they are... then let those victims have their revenge.
Granted the course of the law and judicial system
must grant you that permission.
But hell.. I'd pull the trigger/pull the plug on those monsters to bring me satisfaction.
Compassion towards others... does not include compassion for those
whom attempt or cause physical harm to others.
F that POS.
they have no human rights by my book.
Those whom partake in criminal activity that threatens the well being of other folk whom follow the laws and lead an honest life...
Should be eradicated so that no innocent people would ever again be put in harms way.
But that's not the case... is it ?
None of this needs be based on a religious value - belief...
It needs to based on what are determined as real human rights...
No not the BS the liberals have spun in their web of deceit.
It's time to review exactly what those human rights are...
because the liberals have convoluted what those really are
and have pushed that envelope and their agenda as they see fit.
Screw you all and yer hand holding BS
People whom accept no responsibility for their behavior...
do not belong, nor should be allowed to live in a free society.
Respect ?
I've heard many that are demanding this consideration.
But they have it wrong. Consideration is the word they should be using.
Respect is for those whom deserve recognition for doing the right thing.
Respect is earned... not simply given.
Want less free loaders and bums on our streets and public areas...
Stop giving them money for another beer or fix.
Those whom think they are being kind...
know not what they do.
If you really want to help them...
pay for their ability to get some real help.
Otherwise yer just promoting more scammers to take advantage
of your supposed generosity.
No... all the nice things you think your doing...
will not buy you that stairway to heaven :roll:
btw... life is difficult for everyone, no matter who they might be...
one shouldn't assume their life is more difficult then others.
only 3% of USA children are born with a silver spoon in their mouths...
The rest of us regardless of race, gender, religion... etc.
Have to endure the challenges that have befallen us.
And we didn't get a choice.
But we don't go around taking advantage (or worse) of our fellow man.
Stereo typing / finger pointing goes both ways in our society...
and for those whom wish to blame others...
should probably take a honest look at themselves.
We make our beds...
if it's uncomfortable... it's nobody's fault but our own.
Stop blaming others for what holds you back.
That said...
I'm not building any business in a community of people...
that continually destroy and burn down every attempt I make.
Who in there right mind would ?
That's called lighting yer own house on fire
and the results of that behavior is...
isolation/avoidance by anyone with a brain.
Grow up people... too many of you act like children...
and stop letting your kids dictate the future.
They're kids... and have not reached adulthood /or maturity yet.
They shouldn't even be involved in politics or decision making.
When they start paying the bills... they'll have more say.
Until then sit down, shut up and enjoy the ride.
Their day will one day come... until then... be a kid.
Good luck with that tho'
'cuz the liberals are feeding our children full of BS and lies.
But I will be dead... so good luck with that people.
If one came into this country illegally...
then they are disregarding our established laws and are uncaring of it's citizens.
Then they make a anchor baby so that child will be deemed a USA citizen
and they get a free pass to stay because of that ?
BS, BS, BS, etc.
this archaic interpretation of immigration law needs be changed immediately
No more anchor babies period.
My son started his first years of school with about 30 kids in a classroom...
then over the course of his next 11 years of schooling...
then the migrant onslaught/invasion came.
And the class size went up to 60 children in a classroom here.
and since english wasn't their primary language...
the system had to cater to those children to bring them on par with the others whom were attending.
That meant that any monies that should have been spent
on furthering USA citizen children's education was used elsewhere.
And my son's education was degraded because of that.
This is only one example of many.
There are many more if you care to look.
and that pisses me off... No matter how you label it.
California... the state I live in... is one of the most evil of all states.
And has diluted the rights of true USA citizens in favor of outsiders.
I hate this liberal government... and hope they fall.
Illegal is illegal... Criminal is Criminal.
Breaking or disregarding established law...
doesn't make you worthy of any citizenship, anywhere.
Breaking a country's law regarding immigration...
Means one is a criminal and forfeits their right to naturalization.
And the opportunity of ever becoming a legal citizen.
So leave... and take your anchor babies with you.
It is not the responsibility, nor obligation, of the citizens of the USA
to raise nor support the worlds children whom should not be here in the first place.
I have known and call many immigrants my friends...
And they've come here from all over the world.
But the difference is... they came here legally...
and applied for a green card so that they can work at a job.
While they attempt to upgrade their status and become a legal citizen.
Most all of them speak english and communicate with others acceptably
besides only knowing their own race or cultures language.
Tho' maybe not perfect... they made an honest attempt.
And I applaud them for that.
While they make their attempt at becoming a legal USA citizen...
they never became a burden to the USA citizens nor our Government.
They followed/respected the USA's established law and order
and always offer respect to others as long as they weren't threatened with harm.
More currently...
Some of the offspring of the invaders have joined into gangs...
and threaten/harm law abiding people around them.
Denying others of their right/attempt at seeking Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness is evil and should be dealt with immediately.
Don't believe me... look for yourself
Come to LA and walk yer butt down any street in south - east LA
and see if you survive that.
You likely won't... but good luck trying
This country is supposed to be about freedom for all...
I should be able to safely walk in any neighborhood...
wear any color of clothing or shoes I desire...
And i shouldn't be attacked /or killed because I chose to do so.
This may not be occurring in little towns across the midwest of this country...
But it's coming if nothing is done.
But in the bigger cities... it's become rampant and the law fails to enforce - punish this particular criminal behavior as it should.
Obama just signed a free pass to more criminals related to drug charges...
Naive at best... if one thinks these people will follow a straight path the remainder of their lives.
If they still have a felony record... I'm betting they will be shunned
and return to their ways of crime promptly.
They won't likely correct themselves... instead... they'll be stealing from you... or maybe even killing you for a measly $ 10. or your property.
Our jail systems aren't correctional facilities...
No one ever goes to jail and comes out being corrected.
Rather the opposite is the case that I've seen.
The punishment severity is not equivalent to the level of crimes being committed.
Some folk are not salvageable and do not value their life or others...
And ignoring that... will drag this society into the pits of despair...
Or death... whichever those criminals choose to impose upon you.
Justice, tho' softly worded, means nothing more then getting retribution - revenge in a convoluted way.
When in reality that's all yer gonna get... because it doesn't bring back your dead loved ones.
There is no such thing as justice... except in ones mind.
I'd suggest reverting back to the 1st testament...
and revamping justice so that it reads...
"an eye for an eye"
Nobody should have to become a victim of/by another...
and if they are... then let those victims have their revenge.
Granted the course of the law and judicial system
must grant you that permission.
But hell.. I'd pull the trigger/pull the plug on those monsters to bring me satisfaction.
Compassion towards others... does not include compassion for those
whom attempt or cause physical harm to others.
F that POS.
they have no human rights by my book.
Those whom partake in criminal activity that threatens the well being of other folk whom follow the laws and lead an honest life...
Should be eradicated so that no innocent people would ever again be put in harms way.
But that's not the case... is it ?
None of this needs be based on a religious value - belief...
It needs to based on what are determined as real human rights...
No not the BS the liberals have spun in their web of deceit.
It's time to review exactly what those human rights are...
because the liberals have convoluted what those really are
and have pushed that envelope and their agenda as they see fit.
Screw you all and yer hand holding BS
People whom accept no responsibility for their behavior...
do not belong, nor should be allowed to live in a free society.
Respect ?
I've heard many that are demanding this consideration.
But they have it wrong. Consideration is the word they should be using.
Respect is for those whom deserve recognition for doing the right thing.
Respect is earned... not simply given.
Want less free loaders and bums on our streets and public areas...
Stop giving them money for another beer or fix.
Those whom think they are being kind...
know not what they do.
If you really want to help them...
pay for their ability to get some real help.
Otherwise yer just promoting more scammers to take advantage
of your supposed generosity.
No... all the nice things you think your doing...
will not buy you that stairway to heaven :roll:
btw... life is difficult for everyone, no matter who they might be...
one shouldn't assume their life is more difficult then others.
only 3% of USA children are born with a silver spoon in their mouths...
The rest of us regardless of race, gender, religion... etc.
Have to endure the challenges that have befallen us.
And we didn't get a choice.
But we don't go around taking advantage (or worse) of our fellow man.
Stereo typing / finger pointing goes both ways in our society...
and for those whom wish to blame others...
should probably take a honest look at themselves.
We make our beds...
if it's uncomfortable... it's nobody's fault but our own.
Stop blaming others for what holds you back.
That said...
I'm not building any business in a community of people...
that continually destroy and burn down every attempt I make.
Who in there right mind would ?
That's called lighting yer own house on fire
and the results of that behavior is...
isolation/avoidance by anyone with a brain.
Grow up people... too many of you act like children...
and stop letting your kids dictate the future.
They're kids... and have not reached adulthood /or maturity yet.
They shouldn't even be involved in politics or decision making.
When they start paying the bills... they'll have more say.
Until then sit down, shut up and enjoy the ride.
Their day will one day come... until then... be a kid.
Good luck with that tho'
'cuz the liberals are feeding our children full of BS and lies.
But I will be dead... so good luck with that people.
mikemcE
I wanna be Dave
I hear you TC...... good news is that CA wants to leave the USA...... See Ya !
Hang up and Drive
Hang up and Drive
Mopar man
Pebble Pounder
Fuk Cali and all those cry babie actors out there also. I am all good with them leaving. See ya
ljparton
Newbie
California is the largest agricultural producer in the country and is the 6th largest economy in the WORLD.
The only issue would be water. No water = no food.
Desalination could possibly be used to bridge this gap.
To recap, if California secedes then the cost of food will skyrocket.
Think of that when you yell GTFO, and then bitch about the price of food at your local Kroger.
C'mon guys, look at the big picture here.
The only issue would be water. No water = no food.
Desalination could possibly be used to bridge this gap.
To recap, if California secedes then the cost of food will skyrocket.
Think of that when you yell GTFO, and then bitch about the price of food at your local Kroger.
C'mon guys, look at the big picture here.
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TacoCrawler
I wanna be Dave
California won't secede
because they take billions of dollars from the federal government's
coffers supporting their liberal agenda and socialistic state funding.
And so Trump is holding that over their liberal heads.
Because California cannot sustain without taxing the hell outta its residents.
And how long would that last before people become fed up with that tax burden ?
California state takes/uses more federal monies then probably any other state in the US.
Likely more then several US states combined.
Truth is... having all the produce in the world don't mean crap
unless someone is wanting/willing to buy it.
If it spoils or has to be shipped out to another country...
California will lose it's profitability and will not be what it is today.
So California would still need to sell their produce to the other states...
or they will become bankrupt, collapse and request a Gov. bailout :roll:.
If they did secede successfully... there would likely be a war.
California liberals think the world's economy revolves around them. Idiots.
They're going to drown themselves when reality sets in.
because they take billions of dollars from the federal government's
coffers supporting their liberal agenda and socialistic state funding.
And so Trump is holding that over their liberal heads.
Because California cannot sustain without taxing the hell outta its residents.
And how long would that last before people become fed up with that tax burden ?
California state takes/uses more federal monies then probably any other state in the US.
Likely more then several US states combined.
Truth is... having all the produce in the world don't mean crap
unless someone is wanting/willing to buy it.
If it spoils or has to be shipped out to another country...
California will lose it's profitability and will not be what it is today.
So California would still need to sell their produce to the other states...
or they will become bankrupt, collapse and request a Gov. bailout :roll:.
If they did secede successfully... there would likely be a war.
California liberals think the world's economy revolves around them. Idiots.
They're going to drown themselves when reality sets in.
WHITE-TRASH
I wanna be Dave
Of course the libtards in the state would never secede try as they may. CA grows a lot of food for sure but many states have the right climate and soil to grow those same crops but either have their land in crp or grow export products. Not a big deal at all to switch over to other crops.
If I remember right almonds and olives are the only crops that are exclusive to CA. Meh, I'm sure we can get over those products being imported more than they already are to pick up their loss.
Liberals, including politicians, are trying to harbor illegals. This is against the law and should be treated as such. Arrest them, including the politicians. Keep going Trump. This needed to be done. It should have been done years ago and now you need to take this to the extreme and punish everybody trying to prevent the deportation of illegals.
67mustang
Quarry Creeper
I find it very interesting to see how this will shake out. Kudos to Trump for really being aggressive. Executives get more results than a politician.
There's a bunch of bums out protesting and holding signs and offering their 'love'. The thing is: they don't run shit. Even if part of the Order is killed, there are a lot of enforcement options.
Remember Arizona had their immigration law blocked and the Supreme court ruled that ONLY the federal govt can regulate immigration? These bums said "haha" then. But now that the Feds are putting their pants on, these same people are trying to harbor illegals in these "sancutaries" and trying to pass policy to try to protect these people.
The more these people resist the worse it will be for those they are trying to protect. It is very normal to see Border Patrol do work. I have BP friends. Might as well get a deportation force going.
Personally, I think Trump will show his reasonable side and offer a path to citizenship. But for now, heavy handed enforcement will do and is a great change.
I had a friend in college who had been deported twice and crossed over 5 times. The law hasn't been respected in a long time. Enforcement ends about 50 miles into the US.
There's a bunch of bums out protesting and holding signs and offering their 'love'. The thing is: they don't run shit. Even if part of the Order is killed, there are a lot of enforcement options.
Remember Arizona had their immigration law blocked and the Supreme court ruled that ONLY the federal govt can regulate immigration? These bums said "haha" then. But now that the Feds are putting their pants on, these same people are trying to harbor illegals in these "sancutaries" and trying to pass policy to try to protect these people.
The more these people resist the worse it will be for those they are trying to protect. It is very normal to see Border Patrol do work. I have BP friends. Might as well get a deportation force going.
Personally, I think Trump will show his reasonable side and offer a path to citizenship. But for now, heavy handed enforcement will do and is a great change.
I had a friend in college who had been deported twice and crossed over 5 times. The law hasn't been respected in a long time. Enforcement ends about 50 miles into the US.
All the pieces of shit defending illegals, refugees and terrorists should be shipped off to ISIS countries to spread their love. See how long they last. See how soon those morons change their mind and want to come back to the US with a wall all the way around.
NoobCrawler
Rock Stacker
I love all this CA talk...there's always some kind of chatter to hack into this state. There's been talk of cutting us through the middle, making North & South different states. Still one. Hell, there was talk of making us 6 states. Still one. There's been secession talk before. Still here.
WHITE-TRASH
I wanna be Dave
I doubt it'll ever happen but this time it's the snowflakes in CA wanting to secede rather than other states calling for it.
NoobCrawler
Rock Stacker
Their whining hasn't worked yet...I don't see it working here either.
On another note, I do enjoy still seeing people flip out about the idea of a wall. Maybe the flipping out could be over payment, but that seems to be the minority. Those people saying "bridges not walls" must not realize that there already is a border wall on most of the south of the country. It just fails to do it's job effectively. I like to look at Trump as an exterminator who we called in to plug holes where vermin are getting in.
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Avocados as well maybe? I'm honestly not sure but I can't recall seeing them grown anywhere else in the US. Funny how all of the loud mouth actors were yelling about how they'd move to Canadia if Trump won. I haven't heard of a single moving truck leaving CA with one of them in it. Maybe Canadia told them to piss off, so now they'll want their own private little country.
67mustang
Quarry Creeper
I gotta say. WTs link kinda blew my mind. Maybe it's on TV and I am simply the last to know. (I only watch the news on TV when I am drinking and it's too early for that)
I'd rather bring this post back to this thread for discussion.
The stances and positions concerning immigration from these 7 countries as digested by the Obama administration over 8 yrs are written in POLICY. Read it and people would be protesting if the Trump ppl wrote and passed it.
Reading the Obama policy and knowing the Trump campaign promises made - I have come to the conclusion that Trump immigration policy concerning the influx of international terrorists is the same as Obamas with ONE and ONLY exception being this idea of "extreme vetting".
To me, extreme vetting simply means asking pointed questions of the visa applicant and a thorough investigation.
Point is: There is *very* little policy daylight between two very contentious sides of the issue.
Am I wrong?
I'd rather bring this post back to this thread for discussion.
The stances and positions concerning immigration from these 7 countries as digested by the Obama administration over 8 yrs are written in POLICY. Read it and people would be protesting if the Trump ppl wrote and passed it.
Reading the Obama policy and knowing the Trump campaign promises made - I have come to the conclusion that Trump immigration policy concerning the influx of international terrorists is the same as Obamas with ONE and ONLY exception being this idea of "extreme vetting".
To me, extreme vetting simply means asking pointed questions of the visa applicant and a thorough investigation.
Point is: There is *very* little policy daylight between two very contentious sides of the issue.
Am I wrong?
The problem is at the time this was said and people were cheering ......... all these 'want to hug the world' fruits were still in diapers. The world has changed and we need to protect our home soil better then we did.
No ones had the balls to stand up for Americans since Regan in my opinion. Now we're all about how much money we can give them while ignoring our own home shore problems.
Starbucks ........ " we're gonna hire 10,000 refugees " ........ Really? How about the Vets who cant get a job? How about 10,000 AMERICANS who are here LEGALLY and actually WANT TO BE HERE?
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ROWDY RACING
I wanna be Dave
WHITE-TRASH
I wanna be Dave
Something something-ism, something-phobic, something-ist is all the left is reading in those words.
Life is good when you quit apologizing for what's right isn't it? :mrgreen:
