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Quarry Creeper
Ok, Seeing as how the cvd's are failing left and right on the new losi I wanted to do a picture comparison with my other 2 rigs to see how they stack up against the losi. What I found shocked me and made me wonder how the losi axle design made it through R&D.
For the record, I do own all 3 of these rigs (although the losi is still in the box because of this cvd fiasco.)
I will walk you through the picture's to point out what I saw as problem area's. I will for the most part compare the venom to the losi because its the only other rig that can turn very sharp and aside from the original issue with the over heat treated stubs the venom has had no drivetrain issues so it can obviously handle the sharp turning without failure.
Picture 1
Here is a side by side of all three axles, stubs and pins.
Picture 2
Here is an exploded view of all three, first thing I notice was the losi was considerably smaller than the other two.
Picture 3
Here you can see the size difference of them, the diameter of the pins in the losi really shocked me ( I read these are the same as the losi 1:18 scale mini crawler) I hope not...they are pretty small though.
Picture 4
Here you can see that the Venom stub has a beveled inside to accomidate the sharp turning radius without the need to machine down the axle shaft, I think this is where losi made their major design flaw.
Picture 5
Here is the losi stub, notice no bevel on the inside, there is not much "meat" to these ethier, I was suprised when I looked at it up close.
Picture 6
Here are the stubs side by side, the venom clearly is much beefier than the losi.
Picture 7
One more side by side shot of them for true size reference, once again the venom is much larger.
Picture 8
Here are all 3 again, notice the pin size as well as that bevel in the venom.
Picture 9
Here are all three side by side again you can see that losi has necked down the shaft to get the sharp turning radius instead of beveling the inside of the cup.
Picture 10
Here you can see why the venom design clearly is better than the losi, if the losi had beveled the cups they would not have needed to pinch this axle to the point of premature failure.
My thoughts are that once the losi beefs up their shafts they will still have issues with their cups and pins failing, I break a venom axle pin every once and awhile and they are much bigger and stronger, I cannot imagine trying to not break the losi pins, they look like they would fail before the axles would (they should right?) I know I want my pins to fail before I break an axle or something worse. For now I will sit on my losi and see what happens, I am not willing to at this point put any MORE money or faith in this rig.
For the record, I do own all 3 of these rigs (although the losi is still in the box because of this cvd fiasco.)
I will walk you through the picture's to point out what I saw as problem area's. I will for the most part compare the venom to the losi because its the only other rig that can turn very sharp and aside from the original issue with the over heat treated stubs the venom has had no drivetrain issues so it can obviously handle the sharp turning without failure.
Picture 1
Here is a side by side of all three axles, stubs and pins.
Picture 2
Here is an exploded view of all three, first thing I notice was the losi was considerably smaller than the other two.
Picture 3
Here you can see the size difference of them, the diameter of the pins in the losi really shocked me ( I read these are the same as the losi 1:18 scale mini crawler) I hope not...they are pretty small though.
Picture 4
Here you can see that the Venom stub has a beveled inside to accomidate the sharp turning radius without the need to machine down the axle shaft, I think this is where losi made their major design flaw.
Picture 5
Here is the losi stub, notice no bevel on the inside, there is not much "meat" to these ethier, I was suprised when I looked at it up close.
Picture 6
Here are the stubs side by side, the venom clearly is much beefier than the losi.
Picture 7
One more side by side shot of them for true size reference, once again the venom is much larger.
Picture 8
Here are all 3 again, notice the pin size as well as that bevel in the venom.
Picture 9
Here are all three side by side again you can see that losi has necked down the shaft to get the sharp turning radius instead of beveling the inside of the cup.
Picture 10
Here you can see why the venom design clearly is better than the losi, if the losi had beveled the cups they would not have needed to pinch this axle to the point of premature failure.
My thoughts are that once the losi beefs up their shafts they will still have issues with their cups and pins failing, I break a venom axle pin every once and awhile and they are much bigger and stronger, I cannot imagine trying to not break the losi pins, they look like they would fail before the axles would (they should right?) I know I want my pins to fail before I break an axle or something worse. For now I will sit on my losi and see what happens, I am not willing to at this point put any MORE money or faith in this rig.
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