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honchojoe 09-16-2017 05:41 AM

RGT RC4 Ver.3 Bowler (aka FTX/HSP/Barrage)
 
So I recently picked up one of these. There isn't a HSP/RGT/FTX sub forum so I'll drop it here. This rig has been sold under many names. Most of them budget brands but the ECX Horizon Barrage is the same rig with better tyres and body. I believe they are all manufactured by HSP though. Anyway. It is the latest version with some very nice scale looking axles. The front has universals and a decent steering angle. It has a CMS but box stock it's 4 link with no panhard. But the panhard mounts are actually there. It has a randon unknown 3ch radio. A hobbywing WP1040 esc with crawler specific firmware (and supports 3S lipo). The servo is some unknown thing and it's garbage lol. So pics below.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...d7e75c6e2d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...819021a304.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...3f03e64703.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...cff5e0acb1.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...21dede3080.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...d7620ea046.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...b7d7f0dc5b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...ece5b48b8a.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...c50b57bce4.jpg

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honchojoe 09-16-2017 05:44 AM

Re: RGT RC4 Ver.3 Bowler (aka FTX/HSP/Barrage)
 
This version has the shock towers flipped and the shocks outside the chassis rails (Ver.1 had MRC style axles and shocks inside the rails). It also has a larger 390 motor instead of the ver.1 370 motor. The Barrage kit version had these features as well but slightly improved MRC style axles.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...2ac99f5fb0.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...37d130a4d0.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...258f0f4c23.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...f1a602a75b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...e373f10606.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...4dcd800356.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...4111b6094c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...7ba2d73b09.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...3a07c85dec.jpg

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honchojoe 09-16-2017 05:47 AM

Re: RGT RC4 Ver.3 Bowler (aka FTX/HSP/Barrage)
 
280mm wheelbase. 180mm hex to hex. I replaced the plastic spools with the alloy version. It came with knockoff TSL Super Swampers. Pic shows genuine swampers on left. Knockoffs on right.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...22f5925cb3.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...68d4f39f26.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...a8c73c1656.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...ec3a4c64c5.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...d7ad468df9.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...a2ee5a85e1.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...a23943b3be.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...4f0032bab9.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...2b85cb93d5.jpg

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honchojoe 09-16-2017 05:52 AM

Re: RGT RC4 Ver.3 Bowler (aka FTX/HSP/Barrage)
 
Pics show unis and max theoretical steering angle. The stock setup (servo and horn etc) can't manage it though. But with some tweaking it will. Also took it for a drive today with smaller wheels. The servo handled that much better.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...b9df858b6b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...04d3f75d69.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...720aa54dfc.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...8b925af3a3.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...58b697acfc.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...1ddf054a09.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...4e647fc125.jpg

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honchojoe 09-16-2017 05:57 AM

Re: RGT RC4 Ver.3 Bowler (aka FTX/HSP/Barrage)
 
This rig cost me $230 Australian delivered to my door. Then another $50 for 2x alloy spools + post. I will replace the stock servo with a cheapo $20 20kg servo from ebay and it should be a fun little rig. Basically class 1 legal (SORCCA rules) out of the box (excluding tyres). But so far I've spent aud $300 (USD $240).

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txbart 09-16-2017 06:28 AM

Re: RGT RC4 Ver.3 Bowler (aka FTX/HSP/Barrage)
 
Those axles are cool, how do they fit under Tamiya MF-01x bodies?

Edit: not at all. 210mm vs. 176mm

honchojoe 09-16-2017 06:30 AM

Re: RGT RC4 Ver.3 Bowler (aka FTX/HSP/Barrage)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by txbart (Post 5748906)
Those axles are cool, how do they fit under Tamiya MF-01x bodies?

No idea. They are approx 180mm hex to hex.

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ferp420 09-16-2017 12:56 PM

Re: RGT RC4 Ver.3 Bowler (aka FTX/HSP/Barrage)
 
Nice

honchojoe 09-16-2017 07:18 PM

Re: RGT RC4 Ver.3 Bowler (aka FTX/HSP/Barrage)
 
New servo installed.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...713fe1d453.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...52a0c1acff.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...24d8f0380d.jpg

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honchojoe 09-16-2017 11:49 PM

Re: RGT RC4 Ver.3 Bowler (aka FTX/HSP/Barrage)
 
Took her for a drive. Put the wheels from my C1 on it. High mass wheels and voodoo klr (4.19" red compound) and it was awesome.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...b9fb527124.jpg

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MattySlimz1987 09-17-2017 01:34 AM

Re: RGT RC4 Ver.3 Bowler (aka FTX/HSP/Barrage)
 
Neat little rig. So this is pretty much the same thing as a Barrage, only better housings, better suspension configuration and a beefier motor? It has funny names.. "Bowler" and "Warhead" servo lol. The knockoff Swampers looked ALMOST spot on with the true scale ones, I bet the compound was not the same though. Looks to be a fun little truck by the looks of your last post using the heavier wheels and comp tires.

honchojoe 09-17-2017 01:44 AM

Re: RGT RC4 Ver.3 Bowler (aka FTX/HSP/Barrage)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MattySlimz1987 (Post 5749123)
Neat little rig. So this is pretty much the same thing as a Barrage, only better housings, better suspension configuration and a beefier motor? It has funny names.. "Bowler" and "Warhead" servo lol. The knockoff Swampers looked ALMOST spot on with the true scale ones, I bet the compound was not the same though. Looks to be a fun little truck by the looks of your last post using the heavier wheels and comp tires.

Correct. Same truck as the barrage. Just the latest version. The barrage is ver.1. The barrage kit version is ver.2. This is ver.3. Ver.2 got the improved shock setup and the bigger motor. It also got improved wider versions of the ver.1 axles (MRC style).

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durok 09-17-2017 09:25 AM

Re: RGT RC4 Ver.3 Bowler (aka FTX/HSP/Barrage)
 
I clicked on this thread because the title made me think of this:

http://www.bowlermotorsport.com/wp-c...t-rallying.jpg

But that's OK, even if it's not a Bowler EXR or Wildcat body or whatever, it's nifty and inexpensive. I like the looks best with the smaller black wheel/tire package that you show in the one pic, but it certainly must perform better with larger ones!

Excellent thread with informative details!

I did toy with the idea of waiting for the EXC Barrage kit to mess with, but then I spent (a lot) more to get a new Ascender K10... ;-)

honchojoe 09-28-2017 06:26 PM

Re: RGT RC4 Ver.3 Bowler (aka FTX/HSP/Barrage)
 
It seems these little things are showing up in the states now. There are a few in the facebook group and another on here.

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prontozuk 09-29-2017 04:01 AM

Re: RGT RC4 Ver.3 Bowler (aka FTX/HSP/Barrage)
 
This an amazing looking truck. Would you mind adding the link from we're got from. ..

honchojoe 09-29-2017 04:12 AM

Re: RGT RC4 Ver.3 Bowler (aka FTX/HSP/Barrage)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by prontozuk (Post 5752712)
This an amazing looking truck. Would you mind adding the link from we're got from. ..

Not sure if it's the same seller but same rig. Same price and same location. Sydney
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/232461382321

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prontozuk 09-29-2017 06:16 PM

Re: RGT RC4 Ver.3 Bowler (aka FTX/HSP/Barrage)
 
Thanks for the link.

honchojoe 10-09-2017 06:52 PM

Re: RGT RC4 Ver.3 Bowler (aka FTX/HSP/Barrage)
 
Part numbers part 1https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...e975fc6aef.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...7c847c5b50.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...d7634bce78.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...63202b2c34.jpg

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honchojoe 10-09-2017 06:53 PM

Re: RGT RC4 Ver.3 Bowler (aka FTX/HSP/Barrage)
 
Exploded diagrams with part numbers.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...194ad41733.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...f3f1e680bb.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...8a2ce26651.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...f6b6f35d39.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...371132fe24.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...1f67372bcc.jpg

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Shinchu 10-15-2017 11:35 AM

Re: RGT RC4 Ver.3 Bowler (aka FTX/HSP/Barrage)
 
11 inch wheelbase AND optional leaf springs?!!?! :shock::shock::shock:
What planet are we on?!?

Seriously, this thing just nicked 2 of 3 requirements to fit perfectly under my jconcepts 79 f series!
Just needs axles narrowed. Or... if anyone knows where i can get rc4wd t rex 44? Typical, ii need something from 10 years ago... :roll:
Maybe i could get away with chopping these bowler axles down and stuffing losi mrc narrow cvd and shafts? But then, where to mount leafs and shocks...?

I just made this way more complicated haha


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