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09-16-2017, 05:41 AM | #1 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Melbourne
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| RGT RC4 Ver.3 Bowler (aka FTX/HSP/Barrage)
So I recently picked up one of these. There isn't a HSP/RGT/FTX sub forum so I'll drop it here. This rig has been sold under many names. Most of them budget brands but the ECX Horizon Barrage is the same rig with better tyres and body. I believe they are all manufactured by HSP though. Anyway. It is the latest version with some very nice scale looking axles. The front has universals and a decent steering angle. It has a CMS but box stock it's 4 link with no panhard. But the panhard mounts are actually there. It has a randon unknown 3ch radio. A hobbywing WP1040 esc with crawler specific firmware (and supports 3S lipo). The servo is some unknown thing and it's garbage lol. So pics below. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk |
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09-16-2017, 05:44 AM | #2 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Melbourne
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| Re: RGT RC4 Ver.3 Bowler (aka FTX/HSP/Barrage)
This version has the shock towers flipped and the shocks outside the chassis rails (Ver.1 had MRC style axles and shocks inside the rails). It also has a larger 390 motor instead of the ver.1 370 motor. The Barrage kit version had these features as well but slightly improved MRC style axles. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk |
09-16-2017, 05:47 AM | #3 |
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| Re: RGT RC4 Ver.3 Bowler (aka FTX/HSP/Barrage)
280mm wheelbase. 180mm hex to hex. I replaced the plastic spools with the alloy version. It came with knockoff TSL Super Swampers. Pic shows genuine swampers on left. Knockoffs on right. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk |
09-16-2017, 05:52 AM | #4 |
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| Re: RGT RC4 Ver.3 Bowler (aka FTX/HSP/Barrage)
Pics show unis and max theoretical steering angle. The stock setup (servo and horn etc) can't manage it though. But with some tweaking it will. Also took it for a drive today with smaller wheels. The servo handled that much better. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk |
09-16-2017, 05:57 AM | #5 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Melbourne
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| Re: RGT RC4 Ver.3 Bowler (aka FTX/HSP/Barrage)
This rig cost me $230 Australian delivered to my door. Then another $50 for 2x alloy spools + post. I will replace the stock servo with a cheapo $20 20kg servo from ebay and it should be a fun little rig. Basically class 1 legal (SORCCA rules) out of the box (excluding tyres). But so far I've spent aud $300 (USD $240). Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk |
09-16-2017, 06:28 AM | #6 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Houston
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| Re: RGT RC4 Ver.3 Bowler (aka FTX/HSP/Barrage)
Those axles are cool, how do they fit under Tamiya MF-01x bodies? Edit: not at all. 210mm vs. 176mm Last edited by txbart; 09-16-2017 at 06:31 AM. |
09-16-2017, 06:30 AM | #7 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Melbourne
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| Re: RGT RC4 Ver.3 Bowler (aka FTX/HSP/Barrage) |
09-16-2017, 12:56 PM | #8 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: california under the rock im crawling on
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| Re: RGT RC4 Ver.3 Bowler (aka FTX/HSP/Barrage)
Nice
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09-16-2017, 07:18 PM | #9 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Melbourne
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| Re: RGT RC4 Ver.3 Bowler (aka FTX/HSP/Barrage)
New servo installed. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk |
09-16-2017, 11:49 PM | #10 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Melbourne
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| Re: RGT RC4 Ver.3 Bowler (aka FTX/HSP/Barrage)
Took her for a drive. Put the wheels from my C1 on it. High mass wheels and voodoo klr (4.19" red compound) and it was awesome. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk |
09-17-2017, 01:34 AM | #11 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Northern Virginia
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| Re: RGT RC4 Ver.3 Bowler (aka FTX/HSP/Barrage)
Neat little rig. So this is pretty much the same thing as a Barrage, only better housings, better suspension configuration and a beefier motor? It has funny names.. "Bowler" and "Warhead" servo lol. The knockoff Swampers looked ALMOST spot on with the true scale ones, I bet the compound was not the same though. Looks to be a fun little truck by the looks of your last post using the heavier wheels and comp tires.
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09-17-2017, 01:44 AM | #12 | |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Melbourne
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| Re: RGT RC4 Ver.3 Bowler (aka FTX/HSP/Barrage) Quote:
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09-17-2017, 09:25 AM | #13 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Austin
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| Re: RGT RC4 Ver.3 Bowler (aka FTX/HSP/Barrage)
I clicked on this thread because the title made me think of this: But that's OK, even if it's not a Bowler EXR or Wildcat body or whatever, it's nifty and inexpensive. I like the looks best with the smaller black wheel/tire package that you show in the one pic, but it certainly must perform better with larger ones! Excellent thread with informative details! I did toy with the idea of waiting for the EXC Barrage kit to mess with, but then I spent (a lot) more to get a new Ascender K10... Last edited by durok; 09-17-2017 at 09:29 AM. |
09-28-2017, 06:26 PM | #14 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Melbourne
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| Re: RGT RC4 Ver.3 Bowler (aka FTX/HSP/Barrage)
It seems these little things are showing up in the states now. There are a few in the facebook group and another on here. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk |
09-29-2017, 04:01 AM | #15 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sunshine Coast Queensland Australia
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| Re: RGT RC4 Ver.3 Bowler (aka FTX/HSP/Barrage)
This an amazing looking truck. Would you mind adding the link from we're got from. ..
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09-29-2017, 04:12 AM | #16 | |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Melbourne
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| Re: RGT RC4 Ver.3 Bowler (aka FTX/HSP/Barrage) Quote:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/232461382321 Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk | |
09-29-2017, 06:16 PM | #17 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sunshine Coast Queensland Australia
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| Re: RGT RC4 Ver.3 Bowler (aka FTX/HSP/Barrage)
Thanks for the link.
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10-09-2017, 06:52 PM | #18 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Melbourne
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| Re: RGT RC4 Ver.3 Bowler (aka FTX/HSP/Barrage)
Part numbers part 1 Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk |
10-09-2017, 06:53 PM | #19 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Melbourne
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| Re: RGT RC4 Ver.3 Bowler (aka FTX/HSP/Barrage)
Exploded diagrams with part numbers. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk |
10-15-2017, 11:35 AM | #20 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: san diego
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| Re: RGT RC4 Ver.3 Bowler (aka FTX/HSP/Barrage)
11 inch wheelbase AND optional leaf springs?!!?! What planet are we on?!? Seriously, this thing just nicked 2 of 3 requirements to fit perfectly under my jconcepts 79 f series! Just needs axles narrowed. Or... if anyone knows where i can get rc4wd t rex 44? Typical, ii need something from 10 years ago... Maybe i could get away with chopping these bowler axles down and stuffing losi mrc narrow cvd and shafts? But then, where to mount leafs and shocks...? I just made this way more complicated haha Last edited by Shinchu; 10-15-2017 at 11:37 AM. |
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