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76kcfdeng 01-26-2006 03:32 PM

Scale FJ40, leaf spring tlt build.
 
I built a clod and now I am starting on a scale FJ40. I own a 75 1:1 so I am building a loose copy. Homebuilt frame, leaf springs and everything else I can. I have a tlt on the way. Here are some pics of the frame and leaf springs. Need some ideas on scale looking shocks.
Glen

scale fj40

scale fj40

scale fj40

ScaleHobbies 01-26-2006 03:42 PM

Nice hand work!!
How did you do the bending on that frame?
Can you do a TJ Jeep frame???
Matt

BrandO 01-26-2006 03:49 PM

Nice Job. I like the frame. Looks like we are going to see a few leaf springer buildups. I have have a Bruiser project I am starting. Along with a couple others I have seen on the board. Good luck on your build, we will be watching.

1BadJeepBruiser 01-26-2006 03:54 PM

Nice frame, Ill be keeping an eye on this build, anything that is a toyota based and has leaf springs is awesome :mrgreen:

Mike

Unimoger 01-26-2006 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1badjeepbruiser
Nice frame, Ill be keeping an eye on this build, anything that is a toyota based and has leaf springs is awesome :mrgreen:

Mike

2nd that Mike, gotta love the yota with the leafs and metal frame.:mrgreen:

76kcfdeng 01-26-2006 04:56 PM

Thanks, I sure like the look of the scale builds, alot of nice work by people on this board. The frame was bent with a little heat and a little persuassion, the metal is 1/2 sqaure tube cut lengthwise. I have a cage to build and the front bumper. I also need some more cross braces but I am going to wait until I have the axles and trans. I will keep updating as I progress.
Glen

James Luce 01-26-2006 04:58 PM

As long as its not that Toys r Us crap with a plastic chassis.:mrgreen:

Just kidding!!

ranger12 01-27-2006 02:36 PM

Bumper
 
I built the front bumper today, here are the pics. I just noticed that ranger12 was logged on with my computer, I will have to change it. :?
Glen

bumper

bumper

bumper

76kcfdeng 01-27-2006 03:35 PM

I posted the reply above before noticing that ranger12 had logged in with my computer. He is my daughters boyfriend and he is here more than at home. Hes a good kid so no big deal + he is in to RC. :-P
Glen

thaclodking 01-27-2006 08:36 PM

Very cool, love the frame-work. What wheels and tires are you thinking of running?

76kcfdeng 01-28-2006 09:56 AM

I am getting a TLT used and it comes with mashers on hpi wheels and g-made wideners. I may want to try some geolanders an pede wheels though. The Pedes look like the wheels on my 1:1 LC. I am going to use a Losi xxt tranny with full bearings since I have 1 extra. The truck also comes with an Integy lathe motor. Lots of work to do and things to learn, any advice is appreciated.
Glen

76kcfdeng 01-31-2006 02:15 PM

update
 
I have been working on the springs and shackles, still don't have axles so I can't mount to the frame yet. I made bushings out of vacuum hose and the little brass tubes that come in a clod kit. I am going to use 3/4 elliptical in the back if it works. The shackle on the front spring will bolt through the frame and the front eye will be spaced down 1/4" or so to keep the caster angle close. The rear shackle will mount as shown in the pics and the eye will mount close to the frame to point the pinion towards the tranny, no rear steer so caster is not an issue.
I also built a trailer for my traxxas villain that I will pull with the FJ. It still needs fenders, paint and front support. The boat came used like you see it, needs new paint and some tlc.
Glen

3/4 elliptical

mock up

boat & trailer

trailer

trailer

Brian, aka XJFanatic.com 01-31-2006 02:47 PM

so ya wear nail polish or lipgloss eh?


Lookin good i really wanna build a leaved xj, just need to find an xj body to do it

Unimoger 01-31-2006 02:51 PM

Great metal work, love the boat trailer.

ColquittCustom405 01-31-2006 07:21 PM

What are using to mend your frame and bumpers?

shortbusjeep 01-31-2006 09:36 PM

how are you going to put the springs to the axles?

crawlingfireguy 02-01-2006 07:16 AM

very nice work!!

76kcfdeng 02-01-2006 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shortbusjeep
how are you going to put the springs to the axles?

I am not sure yet, I don't have the axles. I may make u-bolts like in the 3/4 elliptical pic or figure out something else when I have the parts.
Colquitcustom405, do you mean "bend", I am bending the metal around pipe, bar and other things I have laying around. I use heat when needed like on the frame, it is all mig welded together.
Glen

76kcfdeng 02-16-2006 10:04 AM

update
 
Here are some pics of my progress on the scale fj40 and a couple of the boat trailer. I had to narrow the fj frame 1" in the back to fit the axle, next to build is the upper shock mounts and cage. I had back surgery Mon 13th so progress will be slow for awhile. I took the pics since I am just laying around the house.
Glen

fj

fj

fj

fj

fj

fj

fj

trailer

trailer

1BadJeepBruiser 02-16-2006 10:18 AM

Sweet! The frame and everything looks good, I like how you mounted the trans, looks realistic that way, kind like the TC is hanging down a bit ;-). The shackles looks great too, and its got some serious flex for a leaf spring rig :shock: . Keep up the good work!

Mike

Unimoger 02-16-2006 10:39 AM

looks good man, very nice work. Are you planning on pulling that boat trailer to the lake with the LC? run them together?

TLTCrawlin 02-16-2006 11:06 AM

That is a NICE truck... Very good work. Can't wait to see more :D

76kcfdeng 02-16-2006 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unimoger
looks good man, very nice work. Are you planning on pulling that boat trailer to the lake with the LC? run them together?

Thats the plan, we do a fair amount of camping on the lake so I will take it along for those times when we are hanging out at camp. I have some 1/4" square stook to make a drop hitch, I plan to fab a reciever hitch for it.
Glen

ColquittCustom405 02-16-2006 12:13 PM

Mmmmman That thing is looking sweet! Nice progress! Keep it up

:mrgreen:

Yotakid89 02-16-2006 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 76kcfdeng
I have been working on the springs and shackles, still don't have axles so I can't mount to the frame yet. I made bushings out of vacuum hose and the little brass tubes that come in a clod kit. I am going to use 3/4 elliptical in the back if it works. The shackle on the front spring will bolt through the frame and the front eye will be spaced down 1/4" or so to keep the caster angle close. The rear shackle will mount as shown in the pics and the eye will mount close to the frame to point the pinion towards the tranny, no rear steer so caster is not an issue.
I also built a trailer for my traxxas villain that I will pull with the FJ. It still needs fenders, paint and front support. The boat came used like you see it, needs new paint and some tlc.
Glen

3/4 elliptical

mock up

boat & trailer

trailer

trailer

Thats actually a buggy spring. A 3/4 eliptical is using 3/4 of a leaf spring upside down like a buggy spring but attatch the spring to the axle via shackle where the spring perch usually is and then running a link set-up with coilovers or air shocks to top it off:mrgreen:

dezfan 02-16-2006 08:47 PM

Sweet, it is going to be nice when it's finished!:mrgreen:

76kcfdeng 02-17-2006 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yotakid89
Thats actually a buggy spring. A 3/4 eliptical is using 3/4 of a leaf spring upside down like a buggy spring but attatch the spring to the axle via shackle where the spring perch usually is and then running a link set-up with coilovers or air shocks to top it off:mrgreen:

I beg to differ, that would be 1/4 elliptical. Do an internet search for more info. Thanks everyone for the comments, lots of work to do.
Glen

TxCruzr 02-17-2006 09:45 AM

76kcfdeng is right, he is running a 3/4 elliptical, a 1/4 elliptical would be using half the leaf spring with one end mounted to a shackle on the axle end and the other side hard mounted to the frame.
76kcfdeng, awesome build. I also have a 1:1 FJ-40 and it inspired me to pay way to much for a lexan 40 body and put it on my nylint crawler. One day I'll have to do what your doing though. That is too cool. Keep up the great work. What color are you going to paint the body?

76kcfdeng 02-17-2006 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TxCruzr
76kcfdeng is right, he is running a 3/4 elliptical, a 1/4 elliptical would be using half the leaf spring with one end mounted to a shackle on the axle end and the other side hard mounted to the frame.
76kcfdeng, awesome build. I also have a 1:1 FJ-40 and it inspired me to pay way to much for a lexan 40 body and put it on my nylint crawler. One day I'll have to do what your doing though. That is too cool. Keep up the great work. What color are you going to paint the body?

I am going to paint it red with white top, silver diamond plate and maybe black hood which my 1:1 has because the red paint faded so bad. I paid a little extra for my body also, I plan to make a plaster mold before I cut it so if I get ambitious I could build a vacuum table and make some more :mrgreen: .
Glen

Yotakid89 02-17-2006 07:24 PM

I beg to differ since an eliptical suspension mounts the flipped spring directly to the axle housing via shackle while a buggy spring mounts the spring to a shackle wich is attatched the the other leave spring.



http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attac...hmentid=227902

76kcfdeng 02-17-2006 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yotakid89
I beg to differ since an eliptical suspension mounts the flipped spring directly to the axle housing via shackle while a buggy spring mounts the spring to a shackle wich is attatched the the other leave spring.



http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attac...hmentid=227902

It is also part buggy spring but it is 3/4 elliptical. A full buggy spring is 2 complete leaves opposing each other, a full ellipse. An ellipse is a full circle, hence what I have is 3/4s of an ellipse. You are also thinking of a 1/4 elliptical.
Glen

TxCruzr 02-17-2006 09:21 PM

The 3/4 elliptical is often called a buggy spring. When you are running the standard SOA suspension like the front of his rig here, it is a 2/4 or 1/4 elliptical, hence the spring mounting in two places or half elliptical. With the rear like he has it with the buggy spring or 3/4 elliptical the spring mounts in 3 places, or has 3 places to pivit....3/4 of a circle or elliptical. Here is a site where he did a 1/4 elliptical on the rear of his FJ-40 buggy...scroll down to the rear suspension http://medusa.ih8mud.com/cruiser/FJ4...n/Springs.html

I can't imagine the time you have into that. I started on a 4 link today that is not near as complicated as your set up and its kicking my butt. I can't wait to see the finished product.

Inclodneato 02-18-2006 12:04 PM

looks like its going to be a fun rig good job on the frame it looks really good

crawldaddy 02-18-2006 05:45 PM

1/4, 3/4, 2/4 who cares! I love to see something different. Great job on the build up! It would be nice though if you would pay the $20.00 to RCC and post the pics. I tend to not look at the pictures if I have to click on a link. All the bickering got me interested and I had to see what it was all about. I lok forward to seeing the finished truck.:mrgreen:

AdamF 03-10-2006 10:29 PM

What are the leafs made out of, and how wide/long are they?

Looks killer. I'm going to make a similar rig.

76kcfdeng 03-11-2006 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamF
What are the leafs made out of, and how wide/long are they?

Looks killer. I'm going to make a similar rig.

The springs are about 1/4" wide, I think they were 7 1/2" long before bending the eyes in. I had to add a leaf to the front and torque bars to the rear. They are made out of a coil spring that winds up like out of a big clock but it came out of some kind of meter or counter. I got it out of a pile of junk that had lots of small gears and such.
I have made more progress and even drove it, now I need to finish the cage and smooth out the welds and paint.
Glen

'83 chevy 03-11-2006 12:38 PM

looks good:)

skipstr71 03-11-2006 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1badjeepbruiser
anything that is a toyota based and has leaf springs is awesome



couldnt have said it any better myself.. I am a toyota junkie as well as a realizam hawg.. Combining both into RC is awsome.. Keep up the good work..

Unimoger 03-29-2006 11:30 AM

any update son this FJ? really want to see the finished product. :mrgreen:

TxCruzr 04-11-2006 11:04 AM

anything new :mrgreen:


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