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Dickie691986 · 07-07-2008, 07:00 PM

I will be taking pictures as I go. so follow along if you'd like. and any advice or feed back would be great to.

stuff I will be using for this build:

chassis: blackjack
axles: axial
tranny: axial
motor: crawlmaster 3014
esc: mamba max with castles external bec
steering servo: Hitec hs-5955tg
dig servo: Hitec 225MG
wheels: MSD straight six
tires: losi rock claws
dig setup: vf?dna dig unit
rcp: axle c's, knuckles, straight axle, straight axle adapter
axial: cvd's, low center gravity battery plate
Robinson racing: 16 tooth pinion
bonus line: lockers
links: xrc delrin
steering links: xrc delrin
shocks: ?

and I think thats about it now. so on to the build.

Dickie691986 · 07-07-2008, 07:08 PM

first thing I did was assembled the chassis since it was the easiest thing

rite after that I put the tranny together

im not going to post pictures of all the before and after work. ill just post the pictures once I get something together or finished.

Dickie691986 · 07-07-2008, 07:38 PM

ok this will be the last update for the night. just installed the bonus line lockers in the rear axle with the rcp straight axles. I had to file down the axles just a little so they would fit.

then I went ahead and greased everything up and put the axle the rest of the way together using the rcp straight axle adapters

so what do you guys think so far?

k9popo · 07-07-2008, 08:26 PM

Looks good, great chassis to start off with.

Georgerm · 07-08-2008, 06:57 AM

looks great i am thinking of buying a blackjack.

FrankyRizzo · 07-08-2008, 07:32 AM

Looks good. If you need any setup help we have a BlackJack Lab on SinCityrcrc.com

Dickie691986 · 07-08-2008, 11:31 AM

here's a little update on the build. I went ahead and took a closer look at the bonus line locker and noticed that the screws that holds the locker to the pinion in place doesn't sit flush. so I went ahead and grind them down so their will be no problems in the future.

once that was done I went ahead and grind some off of the axial cvd so it was a little easier to tap into the locker. once that was done I went ahead and bolted everything up using the rcp knuckles and axle c's.

thats as far as I got rite now. I will keep this thread up to date. as soon as I get more done.

Dickie691986 · 07-17-2008, 02:35 PM

ok time for some updates. I just got my links and my steering from xrc I will get some stuff put together and post some pictures soon.

Georgerm · 07-17-2008, 02:58 PM

yeah update.

Dickie691986 · 07-17-2008, 03:39 PM

ok I got the lower links on and the shocks their are just fort mock up:

but as you can see the upper links dont fit. anyone have any ideas?

yotachump · 07-17-2008, 05:08 PM

those links look like there made for a stock Ax10. what is your wheelbase going to be?

to extended the uppers you can try some jato rod ends, jato rod ends are the same as revos but longer.

Dickie691986 · 07-17-2008, 06:01 PM

ya when I ordered them from xrc they were for the axial axles with the blackjack chassis. the bottom links are rite but like you said the uppers are for the axial chassis I just got done checking them. :-(

ADDICT · 07-17-2008, 06:24 PM

The upper links were designed for he stock 3-link mount. Looks like you have the conventional 4-link set setup. You might have to unthread a little and find some longer ends. If not try some different upperlink positions cause if this doesnt work you might end up ordering some new upper links. Good Luck it looks good.

* You could prolly make a extender with some kind of upper link mount to make it work.... Better yet just drill another 3mm hole in the chassis that works with the lengths.

Dickie691986 · 07-17-2008, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rtooyak

The upper links were designed for he stock 3-link mount. Looks like you have the conventional 4-link set setup. You might have to unthread a little and find some longer ends. If not try some different upperlink positions cause if this doesnt work you might end up ordering some new upper links. Good Luck it looks good.

* You could prolly make a extender with some kind of upper link mount to make it work.... Better yet just drill another 3mm hole in the chassis that works with the lengths.

xrc and I are working things out rite now. I will soon be able to mount my upper links.

Dickie691986 · 07-17-2008, 06:37 PM

For rite now the build is on hold again until I get everything that I need. and just so everyone knows I'm not blaming xrc for any of this and I will be purchasing more stuff from them for my next (1st scale)build in the future. they have been very helpful. and their customer support is great. so once I get everything I will start posting. but I will still answer any replies and or questions.

insanerc · 07-18-2008, 12:12 AM

Hey all, I just wanted to let everyone know what's going on. The links are correct for the Blackjack using AX-10 axles, and either ours, RPP's, or RCP's link/servo mount plates. The configuration problem here is they are not fabricated to fit the shorter TCS plate. I talked to Tim way before I saw this post and showed him picks of our Blackjack with AX-10 axles and the exact same length links though ours have reg. rod ends, not heavy duty. I also let Tim know that I would either send him the correct plates to work with the links or build him a free set of upper links to work with the plates he has. We'll get you fixed up Tim

Here's the pics of our Blackjack with the exact same center to center link measurements.

Dickie691986 · 07-18-2008, 03:52 AM

Ya what he said^^^ lol. thanks again Dave.

I also told Dave that if he would like I would send him the TCS plates so he could get some links made for that setup as well. Just let me know Dave.

littleskull99 · 07-18-2008, 03:57 AM

Looks like a bulletproof build man, keep it up.

Matt

akxj · 07-18-2008, 07:21 AM

issssss nice....

CharliesTheMan · 07-18-2008, 07:36 AM

I'm soon going to be starting a very similar build. The blackjack was my first custom chassis to buy, and it's ben sitting on the shelf until I got some experience under my belt to learn about link setups and suspension geometry, things like that, so I could build it right the first time. I'm still learning and have a long way to go, but now I'm to the point that after I finish my current GC-2 build, I will be starting on the blackjack. I just found the XRC delrin links specifically for the blackjack a few weeks ago, and I was planning to order them anyway. Now that I know what kind of customer service they have, I will be ordering from them A LOT.

07-07-2008, 07:00 PM	#1
Dickie691986 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Carlisle Posts: 435	blackjack (my first build thread) I will be taking pictures as I go. so follow along if you'd like. and any advice or feed back would be great to. stuff I will be using for this build: chassis: blackjack axles: axial tranny: axial motor: crawlmaster 3014 esc: mamba max with castles external bec steering servo: Hitec hs-5955tg dig servo: Hitec 225MG wheels: MSD straight six tires: losi rock claws dig setup: vf?dna dig unit rcp: axle c's, knuckles, straight axle, straight axle adapter axial: cvd's, low center gravity battery plate Robinson racing: 16 tooth pinion bonus line: lockers links: xrc delrin steering links: xrc delrin shocks: ? and I think thats about it now. so on to the build. Last edited by Dickie691986; 07-29-2008 at 05:03 PM.

07-17-2008, 06:24 PM	#13
ADDICT RCC Addict Join Date: May 2008 Location: On the rocks Posts: 985	The upper links were designed for he stock 3-link mount. Looks like you have the conventional 4-link set setup. You might have to unthread a little and find some longer ends. If not try some different upperlink positions cause if this doesnt work you might end up ordering some new upper links. Good Luck it looks good. * You could prolly make a extender with some kind of upper link mount to make it work.... Better yet just drill another 3mm hole in the chassis that works with the lengths. Last edited by ADDICT; 07-17-2008 at 06:27 PM.

07-18-2008, 12:12 AM	#16
insanerc RCC Addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bedias, Texas Posts: 1,083	Hey all, I just wanted to let everyone know what's going on. The links are correct for the Blackjack using AX-10 axles, and either ours, RPP's, or RCP's link/servo mount plates. The configuration problem here is they are not fabricated to fit the shorter TCS plate. I talked to Tim way before I saw this post and showed him picks of our Blackjack with AX-10 axles and the exact same length links though ours have reg. rod ends, not heavy duty. I also let Tim know that I would either send him the correct plates to work with the links or build him a free set of upper links to work with the plates he has. We'll get you fixed up Tim Here's the pics of our Blackjack with the exact same center to center link measurements. Attached Images Last edited by insanerc; 07-18-2008 at 07:51 AM.

07-07-2008, 07:08 PM	#2
Dickie691986 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Carlisle Posts: 435	first thing I did was assembled the chassis since it was the easiest thing rite after that I put the tranny together im not going to post pictures of all the before and after work. ill just post the pictures once I get something together or finished.

07-07-2008, 07:38 PM	#3
Dickie691986 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Carlisle Posts: 435	ok this will be the last update for the night. just installed the bonus line lockers in the rear axle with the rcp straight axles. I had to file down the axles just a little so they would fit. then I went ahead and greased everything up and put the axle the rest of the way together using the rcp straight axle adapters so what do you guys think so far?

07-07-2008, 08:26 PM	#4
k9popo I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: * Posts: 2,877	Looks good, great chassis to start off with.

07-08-2008, 06:57 AM	#5
Georgerm Quarry Creeper Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: columbus Posts: 487	looks great i am thinking of buying a blackjack.

07-08-2008, 07:32 AM	#6
FrankyRizzo I wanna be Dave Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vegas Posts: 7,172	Looks good. If you need any setup help we have a BlackJack Lab on SinCityrcrc.com

07-08-2008, 11:31 AM	#7
Dickie691986 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Carlisle Posts: 435	here's a little update on the build. I went ahead and took a closer look at the bonus line locker and noticed that the screws that holds the locker to the pinion in place doesn't sit flush. so I went ahead and grind them down so their will be no problems in the future. once that was done I went ahead and grind some off of the axial cvd so it was a little easier to tap into the locker. once that was done I went ahead and bolted everything up using the rcp knuckles and axle c's. thats as far as I got rite now. I will keep this thread up to date. as soon as I get more done.

07-17-2008, 02:35 PM	#8
Dickie691986 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Carlisle Posts: 435	ok time for some updates. I just got my links and my steering from xrc I will get some stuff put together and post some pictures soon.

07-17-2008, 02:58 PM	#9
Georgerm Quarry Creeper Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: columbus Posts: 487	yeah update.

07-17-2008, 03:39 PM	#10
Dickie691986 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Carlisle Posts: 435	ok I got the lower links on and the shocks their are just fort mock up: but as you can see the upper links dont fit. anyone have any ideas?

07-17-2008, 05:08 PM	#11
yotachump ghetto fabulous newbie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: with your mom Posts: 2,526	those links look like there made for a stock Ax10. what is your wheelbase going to be? to extended the uppers you can try some jato rod ends, jato rod ends are the same as revos but longer.

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07-17-2008, 06:01 PM	#12
Dickie691986 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Carlisle Posts: 435	ya when I ordered them from xrc they were for the axial axles with the blackjack chassis. the bottom links are rite but like you said the uppers are for the axial chassis I just got done checking them. :-(

07-17-2008, 06:37 PM	#15
Dickie691986 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Carlisle Posts: 435	For rite now the build is on hold again until I get everything that I need. and just so everyone knows I'm not blaming xrc for any of this and I will be purchasing more stuff from them for my next (1st scale)build in the future. they have been very helpful. and their customer support is great. so once I get everything I will start posting. but I will still answer any replies and or questions.

07-18-2008, 03:52 AM	#17
Dickie691986 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Carlisle Posts: 435	Ya what he said^^^ lol. thanks again Dave. I also told Dave that if he would like I would send him the TCS plates so he could get some links made for that setup as well. Just let me know Dave.

07-18-2008, 03:57 AM	#18
littleskull99 Rock Crawler Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Secret Crawl Location Deep In England Posts: 546	Looks like a bulletproof build man, keep it up. Matt

07-18-2008, 07:21 AM	#19
akxj Newbie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Va. Beach Posts: 33	issssss nice....

07-18-2008, 07:36 AM	#20
CharliesTheMan Quarry Creeper Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Alexandria Posts: 207	I'm soon going to be starting a very similar build. The blackjack was my first custom chassis to buy, and it's ben sitting on the shelf until I got some experience under my belt to learn about link setups and suspension geometry, things like that, so I could build it right the first time. I'm still learning and have a long way to go, but now I'm to the point that after I finish my current GC-2 build, I will be starting on the blackjack. I just found the XRC delrin links specifically for the blackjack a few weeks ago, and I was planning to order them anyway. Now that I know what kind of customer service they have, I will be ordering from them A LOT.

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