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irok · 03-09-2009, 06:36 AM

I only got a few short runs out this Hot Racing stainless rear axle.
It only fell from about 14",i'm sure it would have busted the rear housing if not for aluminum adapters w/the double brgs.
Any stronger axles available,i thought these were the best?

sierradmax · 03-09-2009, 07:00 AM

You'll find out alot of guys bend them. I've done it on a couple hard falls. Just rebend it back...

chris4207 · 03-09-2009, 07:20 AM

You could bend it back but the second time it will bend a little easier. Stainless is actually softer than other metals used for drive shafts/axle shafts.

JeremyH · 03-09-2009, 07:21 AM

That's about on par for the Hot Racing products that I have used in the past. I snapped one of their Clod CVDs in five minutes....driving on flat ground.

Dont expect any customer service from them either.

irok · 03-09-2009, 07:39 AM

thanx guys,
ya i figured i would bend it back and see how long it lasts.
Somebody should make up some nice hardened ones for us.

MCSCOTT · 03-09-2009, 07:46 AM

I've been several stainless ones. You can bend them back but like mentioned they will bend easier the next time around. Also, they might wear your bearings out quicker. Personally out of all the one's I've run so far the Axial brand took the longest to bend. I've beat the crap out of the set of Axial ones I have for a year and have just recently bent it slightly.

irok · 03-09-2009, 08:17 AM

i saw another truck take a 10' fall/hit onto concrete and the housing bust off behind the alum. adapt. and bent the stock axle at the same spot.
I'll keep some stockers in my box,my rig is heavy i'll be needin' them

MCSCOTT · 03-09-2009, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irok

i saw another truck take a 10' fall/hit onto concrete and the housing bust off behind the alum. adapt. and bent the stock axle at the same spot.
I'll keep some stockers in my box,my rig is heavy i'll be needin' them

Yup, from one of the places I run mine at I've learned to keep spares. I've got several spare axle shafts, as well as 3 spare housings and the stock knuckles and c's with the lockout parts just in case I had to go that route.

chevihemi · 03-09-2009, 12:14 PM

Ive got a HR lockout set that is bent too and I bent back but would like to have spares incase it breaks next time. Where can I get them? I emailed HR and got nothing back from them. Any other brand work with their lockouts?

Thanks!

JeremyH · 03-09-2009, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chevihemi

I emailed HR and got nothing back from them.

They provide excellent customer service, dont they? I got the same treatment from them a while back...

E&W Racing · 03-09-2009, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeremyH

They provide excellent customer service, dont they? I got the same treatment from them a while back...

good to know this was about to order a set think ill go the axial ones instead

Cheatin · 03-09-2009, 01:39 PM

All of those stainless axles are total ass, no one had the brain storm to have them heat treated. Get the Axial straight axles and you only have to run one bearing on each end instead of two.

BuzzKilla · 03-09-2009, 01:51 PM

i have the axials, with their plastic, strait axle adapters. taken a few tumbles, and have yet to bend one...

i have yet to see an HR product worth purchasing, but thats is just my opinion.

Offroader5 · 03-09-2009, 06:55 PM

Same thing happened to my HR straight shafts...and it was the first run on them...and only about a 3 foot roll. You'd be better off just running the MIP's or something similar and locking out the rear knuckles...stronger IMO.

chevihemi · 03-20-2009, 08:28 AM

Anyone know if any other brand regular steel straight axles will fit in the HR housings so I dont have to buy the whole kit? Would I be better off just putting stock knuckles back on and locking them out and not worry about it?

Thanks much!

Offroader5 · 03-20-2009, 06:18 PM

One thing I noticed with the stock knuckles just locked out...was that it has a bit of "give" to it and it absorbs some pretty good impacts instead of the shock of the hit making it's way to the next weak spot. The weak spot in my HR shafts ended up being the hex pin hole through the shaft.

If you check out a vid of mine...right at the second slow motion part (4:04 in)...you can see the rear tire/wheel get caught up on the rock during the high speed roll and looks like it had bent it pretty severely. Everything was just fine afterwards...I was kinda surprised. I think that the stock plastic knuckle that I had locked out allowed it to soak up some of the impact.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC77zLsl6c0

MadForce · 03-21-2009, 03:57 AM

In the past I have had numerous falls, tumbles, etc. from heights ranging from 1 meter (~3 feet) to 5 meters (~15 feet). My axles are totally stock all plastic and so far everything holds up nice. Nothing broken or bent. What offroader5 says must me true because most hobby grade plastics have a tendency to flex a lot and return to normal. Downside is after a year of crawling my plastics are now showing very increased slop but what can one expect?

Flash · 03-21-2009, 09:26 AM

I found when the beadlock is properly mounted it will bend the axles. I used to run Delrin beads and noticed they never seated properly on the axle and would bend the axle. I switched to Vanquish beads and still have yet to bend an axle.

Offroader5 · 03-21-2009, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash

I found when the beadlock is properly mounted it will bend the axles. I used to run Delrin beads and noticed they never seated properly on the axle and would bend the axle. I switched to Vanquish beads and still have yet to bend an axle.

Not sure I understand the logic there. Shouldn't make a difference. I have run several sets of Delrin beadlocks from different vendors...and have run several different sets of aluminum ones...and just cannot see how the delrin versions would cause a bent axle shaft. More than likely, the only way it could happen is that when installed, the hex fit VERY poorly and after the axle nut is tightened down..the wheel wobbles. This would probably cause a premature shaft bending because of the added leverage.

IMO, the only way a VERY poorly seated hex would even occur is if you tried to use the stock Axial plastic hexes that has the little added ring of material on the outside face...and did not trim it off flat when installing beadlocks that were not specifically designed to fit that little ring without modification.

tamiyatim · 03-24-2009, 01:35 PM

Will AX10 lockouts fit the wheely king axle??

03-09-2009, 06:36 AM	#1
irok Rock Crawler Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: B.C.Canada Posts: 608	Bent stainless axle already? I only got a few short runs out this Hot Racing stainless rear axle. It only fell from about 14",i'm sure it would have busted the rear housing if not for aluminum adapters w/the double brgs. Any stronger axles available,i thought these were the best?

03-09-2009, 07:20 AM	#3
chris4207 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Northern, Mi Posts: 324	You could bend it back but the second time it will bend a little easier. Stainless is actually softer than other metals used for drive shafts/axle shafts. Last edited by chris4207; 03-09-2009 at 07:25 AM.

03-20-2009, 06:18 PM	#16
Offroader5 Picky Fab'r/Acetal Junky Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Arizona Desert/AJ Posts: 3,073	One thing I noticed with the stock knuckles just locked out...was that it has a bit of "give" to it and it absorbs some pretty good impacts instead of the shock of the hit making it's way to the next weak spot. The weak spot in my HR shafts ended up being the hex pin hole through the shaft. If you check out a vid of mine...right at the second slow motion part (4:04 in)...you can see the rear tire/wheel get caught up on the rock during the high speed roll and looks like it had bent it pretty severely. Everything was just fine afterwards...I was kinda surprised. I think that the stock plastic knuckle that I had locked out allowed it to soak up some of the impact. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC77zLsl6c0 Last edited by Offroader5; 03-20-2009 at 06:21 PM.

03-24-2009, 01:35 PM	#20
tamiyatim Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Alexandria Posts: 19	Will AX10 lockouts fit the wheely king axle?? Will AX10 lockouts fit the wheely king axle??

03-09-2009, 07:00 AM	#2
sierradmax Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Northern Posts: 311	You'll find out alot of guys bend them. I've done it on a couple hard falls. Just rebend it back...

03-09-2009, 07:21 AM	#4
JeremyH I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 16,952	That's about on par for the Hot Racing products that I have used in the past. I snapped one of their Clod CVDs in five minutes....driving on flat ground. Dont expect any customer service from them either.

03-09-2009, 07:39 AM	#5
irok Rock Crawler Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: B.C.Canada Posts: 608	thanx guys, ya i figured i would bend it back and see how long it lasts. Somebody should make up some nice hardened ones for us.

03-09-2009, 07:46 AM	#6
MCSCOTT Rock Crawler Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Columbia, TN Posts: 813	I've been several stainless ones. You can bend them back but like mentioned they will bend easier the next time around. Also, they might wear your bearings out quicker. Personally out of all the one's I've run so far the Axial brand took the longest to bend. I've beat the crap out of the set of Axial ones I have for a year and have just recently bent it slightly.

03-09-2009, 08:17 AM	#7
irok Rock Crawler Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: B.C.Canada Posts: 608	i saw another truck take a 10' fall/hit onto concrete and the housing bust off behind the alum. adapt. and bent the stock axle at the same spot. I'll keep some stockers in my box,my rig is heavy i'll be needin' them

03-09-2009, 12:14 PM	#9
chevihemi Rock Stacker Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Mankato, MN Posts: 72	Ive got a HR lockout set that is bent too and I bent back but would like to have spares incase it breaks next time. Where can I get them? I emailed HR and got nothing back from them. Any other brand work with their lockouts? Thanks!

03-09-2009, 01:39 PM	#12
Cheatin Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: No Cajones en El Cajones Posts: 495	All of those stainless axles are total ass, no one had the brain storm to have them heat treated. Get the Axial straight axles and you only have to run one bearing on each end instead of two.

03-09-2009, 01:51 PM	#13
BuzzKilla Quarry Creeper Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Toronto, ON. Canada Posts: 281	i have the axials, with their plastic, strait axle adapters. taken a few tumbles, and have yet to bend one... i have yet to see an HR product worth purchasing, but thats is just my opinion.

03-09-2009, 06:55 PM	#14
Offroader5 Picky Fab'r/Acetal Junky Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Arizona Desert/AJ Posts: 3,073	Same thing happened to my HR straight shafts...and it was the first run on them...and only about a 3 foot roll. You'd be better off just running the MIP's or something similar and locking out the rear knuckles...stronger IMO.

03-20-2009, 08:28 AM	#15
chevihemi Rock Stacker Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Mankato, MN Posts: 72	Anyone know if any other brand regular steel straight axles will fit in the HR housings so I dont have to buy the whole kit? Would I be better off just putting stock knuckles back on and locking them out and not worry about it? Thanks much!

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03-21-2009, 03:57 AM	#17
MadForce RCC Addict Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Greece, sun, sea and rocks Posts: 1,242	In the past I have had numerous falls, tumbles, etc. from heights ranging from 1 meter (~3 feet) to 5 meters (~15 feet). My axles are totally stock all plastic and so far everything holds up nice. Nothing broken or bent. What offroader5 says must me true because most hobby grade plastics have a tendency to flex a lot and return to normal. Downside is after a year of crawling my plastics are now showing very increased slop but what can one expect?

03-21-2009, 09:26 AM	#18
Flash Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Huntington Beach Posts: 353	I found when the beadlock is properly mounted it will bend the axles. I used to run Delrin beads and noticed they never seated properly on the axle and would bend the axle. I switched to Vanquish beads and still have yet to bend an axle.

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