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TotoRax 09-20-2011 08:45 PM

Le Margouillat.
 
Hello,

Following the Matoutou project, I started to work on a new frame. A narrower and lighter frame, with a home-made tranny. After having to test this frame with axle of my AX-10 and my Wheely-king, I decided to begin a new project : Le Margouillat.

The front axle :
  • Axial Axle Housings
  • Axial Racing Aluminum C Hub Carrier for AX10 Scorpion #AX30495
  • EGRESSor knuckles and EGRESSor knuckles weights
  • Super 300 Axial CVD's for Axial AX10
  • Axial Racing Optional Ratio Gear Set 36/14 for Axial AX10 Scorpion #AX30401
  • HPI Two Rear Shock Set 77-117mm RS4 Mt 2 Kit HPIA710
  • TCS Internal Shock Springs for Axial AX10 Scorpion - Medium Strength
  • Gunnar *beef* toobs
  • Servo Hitec 7950 TH

Assembly of the front axle
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/974...ouillat017.jpg

C-hub with +20° caster
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/4...ouillat018.jpg

4 links and the support of servo
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4...ouillat002.jpg
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/5...ouillat003.jpg
http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/4...ouillat011.jpg
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/9...ouillat008.jpg

Nothing rubs :mrgreen:
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/5...ouillat004.jpg
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/8...ouillat005.jpg
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/6...ouillat006.jpg
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/3530/...ouillat007.jpg

I have the classic issue with bearing. I took the advice of SDSCustumZ and I removed the bearing.
I have to modify and drill the Gunnar *beef* toobs to move them of 4mm.
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/4...ouillat001.jpg

The new inox steering arm
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/6...ouillat021.jpg

The front axle complete
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/610...ouillat004.jpg
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/388...ouillat028.jpg

The rear axle
  • Axial Axle Housings
  • Axial Heavy Duty Bevel Gear Set 43T/13T (coming soon :mrgreen:)
  • EGRESSor spool
  • Ax30494 Axial Aluminum Rear Axle Lock-out
  • AX30421 Straight Axle 6x104 50mm
  • Traxxas big bore Shock #2660

The rear 4 links
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/369...ouillat001.jpg
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9449/...ouillat002.jpg
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/6...ouillat008.jpg
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/2...ouillat009.jpg
For the moment I use the silver Losi Rear Shock Springs Mini-T LOSB1119 , I think that the green or pink would be adapted more. Even with the silver springs, I have very little torque-twist. Le Margouillat can climb the test board inclined to 75°, it is good sign.

Electro
  • Micro SideWinder
  • CC bec
  • TeamBrood Creep Type HHK-R 45T (coming soon)

Some pic of complet rig
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/7...ouillat002.jpg
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/905...ouillat007.jpg
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9489/...ouillat009.jpg
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/2...ouillat016.jpg
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/7...ouillat005.jpg

The final weight?? less than 5Lbrs - under 2.200kg RTR :mrgreen::mrgreen:
But, after some test, it will be necessary that I add 100g to the rear…

To follow...

gunnar 09-20-2011 09:03 PM

Great work as always "thumbsup"

Duuuuuuuude 09-20-2011 10:07 PM

Le Awesome! "thumbsup"

TSK 09-20-2011 11:36 PM

Fancy!

Any close ups of the home made trans?

TotoRax 09-21-2011 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSCorpionKing (Post 3289003)
Fancy!

Any close ups of the home made trans?

The first proto :mrgreen:
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/4...ouillat003.jpg

R2 from RC4WD for parts.
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/8...ouillat007.jpg

And assembly of the R2V2 :mrgreen:
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8...ouillat001.jpg

lightening of the parts to the milling machine
http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/2...ouillat010.jpg

I drill the gear
http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/7...crawler004.jpg

The dig
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/127...ouillat002.jpg
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/4...ouillat004.jpg
On the pic, the notches for the dig are not made yet in the stainless plate.

Ax-10 trans (full plastic w/o dig) 86g
R2 with dig : 125g
the R2V2 with dig : 95g

R2 made 7cm in width, the R2V2 makes 1 cm less, that is to say 6cm

The R2V2 is mirrored compared to R2.
http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/5...ouillat008.jpg
http://img860.imageshack.us/img860/8...ouillat011.jpg

On the frame
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/229...ouillat001.jpg
http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/8...ouillat002.jpg
http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/6...ouillat004.jpg

The output shaft is placed 9mm low than on traditional tranny. That makes it possible to lower still a little the centre of gravity (the driveshafts are heavy…). But that with returned installations of the lower links are complicated :evil:

After the first test, this rig work very well, but still many adjustments require. 300 shaft gives him a diabolic steering :mrgreen:


Quote:

Originally Posted by Duuuuuuuude (Post 3288883)
Le Awesome! "thumbsup"

Quote:

Originally Posted by gunnar (Post 3288734)
Great work as always "thumbsup"

Thanks :oops::oops:

paul6ppca 09-21-2011 07:18 AM

Wow,Nice work.
The driveshafts look really tucked out of the way.Can you post a pic of the compleat rig with the driveshafts? looks like great clearence,as good as MOA!
"thumbsup"

billet works 09-21-2011 07:58 AM

Your build is AWESOME! "thumbsup"

TotoRax 09-21-2011 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paul6ppca (Post 3289188)
Wow,Nice work.
The driveshafts look really tucked out of the way.Can you post a pic of the compleat rig with the driveshafts? looks like great clearence,as good as MOA!
"thumbsup"

Thanks,

For rear driveshaft, some pic during construction (on the pic, the nose of axle is a little too high, since I lowered it a little)

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/2...ouillat005.jpg
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/5...ouillat002.jpg

The ground clearence is good, 3” (75mm) in front of the frame and 3.15" ( 85mm) in rear. I have 3.54" (90mm) under the rear links :mrgreen:

C*H*U*D 09-21-2011 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billet works (Post 3289220)
Your build is AWESOME! "thumbsup"

No doubt!! 5 stars from me "thumbsup"

TSK 09-21-2011 12:39 PM

Fantastic work."thumbsup"

poncho_ponch 09-21-2011 01:05 PM

Man those body lines flow real nice "thumbsup"

TotoRax 09-21-2011 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billet works (Post 3289220)
Your build is AWESOME! "thumbsup"

Quote:

Originally Posted by C*H*U*D (Post 3289389)
No doubt!! 5 stars from me "thumbsup"

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSCorpionKing (Post 3289602)
Fantastic work."thumbsup"

Quote:

Originally Posted by poncho_ponch (Post 3289643)
Man those body lines flow real nice "thumbsup"

Big thanks for your comments :oops::oops:

That was a very ambitious, and rather complicated project. For the moment, I am satisfied with the result (especially because it functions :lmao:), the machine functions rather very well (mainly transmission and the dig). Now, there remains a long moment of adjustments...

Stormin2u 09-21-2011 02:09 PM

Sweet build, I love the fresh take on design your very talented. "thumbsup"

opek 09-21-2011 05:46 PM

I'm constantly floored by the high quality work the members of this site put out. Thanks for sharing and thanks for the inspiration! I love your upper link mounts, I'm absolutely going to steal your rear upper axle mount. It's already been drawn in sharpie on a cutting board.

TSK 09-21-2011 06:58 PM

When I first looked at this thing, it reminded me of something. And i've been pulling my hair out trying to figure it out.

Then I finally remembered.

The tank from the video game "Metal Slug"

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5025/...211cf1439c.jpg

Then I realized it doesn't really look like it. But I think the very mechanical nature and look of your rig still seems plausible.

But then I remembered this is not the tank I was thinking of. The tank I'm thinking of is from a video game, but it had wheels on legs. Theis tank could use it's legged wheels to jump, and also it could aim it's turret straight up. Unfortunately, for the life of me, i can't remember the name of the game. Pretty sure it was on super nintendo though.

Hittman 09-21-2011 07:42 PM

This thing looks really sweet, good job man."thumbsup"

TotoRax 09-22-2011 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSCorpionKing (Post 3290253)
When I first looked at this thing, it reminded me of something. And i've been pulling my hair out trying to figure it out.

Then I finally remembered.

The tank from the video game "Metal Slug"

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5025/...211cf1439c.jpg

Then I realized it doesn't really look like it. But I think the very mechanical nature and look of your rig still seems plausible.

But then I remembered this is not the tank I was thinking of. The tank I'm thinking of is from a video game, but it had wheels on legs. Theis tank could use it's legged wheels to jump, and also it could aim it's turret straight up. Unfortunately, for the life of me, i can't remember the name of the game. Pretty sure it was on super nintendo though.

I do not count any more how much "INSERT COIN(S)" I could put in these ruined machine to see the next level :lmao:

Your pics makes me think an old manga: "Dominion: Tank Police” :mrgreen:

TSK 09-22-2011 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TotoRax (Post 3291804)
I do not count any more how much "INSERT COIN(S)" I could put in these ruined machine to see the next level :lmao:

Your pics makes me think an old manga: "Dominion: Tank Police” :mrgreen:

I cannot for the life of me, remember the name of teh video game....

That was a good little manga.

There is just somethig so mechanical and beautiful about Le Margouillat.

What does it mean?

TotoRax 09-22-2011 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSCorpionKing (Post 3291830)
I cannot for the life of me, remember the name of teh video game....

That was a good little manga.

There is just somethig so mechanical and beautiful about Le Margouillat.

What does it mean?

I am a draughtsman, and I surely looked at too many manga being young :roll:

Today, I worked a little on foams and add 100g on the rear. I use foams Ci with a traditional set-up :
Front : Medium inner and software outer
Rear: Firm inner and Medium outer.

But Margouillat being rather light, I have to re-examine the set-up. The rig tended a little too to hop and motricity seemed to me perfectible (motricity is always perfectible :mrgreen:).
With foams available, I chose for the rear : Soft inner and soft outer. Probably of the medium inner would have been better, but I had only that… The first test seems interesting, a little less rebound with the rear and the behavior in side-hill good remainder. But is still to test.

TotoRax 09-24-2011 02:29 PM

Hello,


Today, I received my motor, a TEAM Brood Creep Type HHK-R 45T. That to say, if not that they are impressive "thumbsup"
As always, torque, wheelspeed...
http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/8...ouillat001.jpg
http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/8...ouillat004.jpg

I also shaved the tires. It is an interesting configuration
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/304...ouillat007.jpg

And the first test of panels on the frame.
http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/4...ouillat016.jpg
http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/7...ouillat017.jpg
http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/5...ouillat013.jpg
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/5...ouillat014.jpg
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/4...ouillat009.jpg


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