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1967Typhoon 07-14-2014 07:38 AM

Connect BEC to balance plug?
 
Hey guys. I am starting to think about electronics layout in my G6. I was wondering what you guys thought about the idea of me connecting my Castle BEC via a female JST-XH connector directly to the lipos balance connector. This way I have a separate line that goes to my waterproof box. Do you think that connector has enough current potential to power my BEC?

Thanks!

klampykixx 07-14-2014 07:50 AM

Re: Connect BEC to balance plug?
 
im gonna say it wont work. i could be wrong, but the reason for a balance plug is to isolate the individual cells to charge them independently of each other. so by using the balance plug, only two of the wires are needed for your BEC so id imagine you would only be using a single cell to power it, which isnt enough voltage.

im not sure its wise to link the cells at both ends. but im not certain how it would affect anything, if it did, by linking them at the balance plug.

1967Typhoon 07-14-2014 08:00 AM

Re: Connect BEC to balance plug?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by klampykixx (Post 4834407)
im gonna say it wont work. i could be wrong, but the reason for a balance plug is to isolate the individual cells to charge them independently of each other. so by using the balance plug, only two of the wires are needed for your BEC so id imagine you would only be using a single cell to power it, which isnt enough voltage.

im not sure its wise to link the cells at both ends. but im not certain how it would affect anything, if it did, by linking them at the balance plug.

The outside pins are 11.1V positive and negative.

http://www.ee.nmt.edu/~furrball/temp...am-3s_lipo.png

I'm wondering if the draw would be too much for the connector.

MountainStorm 07-14-2014 08:01 AM

Re: Connect BEC to balance plug?
 
Make a Y plug for the battery. XT60 plugs are pretty waterproof...I've submerged them. Don't tap into the balance plug.

klampykixx 07-14-2014 08:03 AM

Re: Connect BEC to balance plug?
 
cool. i just learned something, i didnt know thats how 3s was wired, only ever played with 2s.

as for the current draw, ive run 2s lipo at 20c on a red JST connected ESC with a 540 size motor with no issue so im sure you wont have any current limitations on a normal BEC with the balance plug

klampykixx 07-14-2014 08:04 AM

Re: Connect BEC to balance plug?
 
im agreeing with MountainStorm tho, link your BEC off the main connector just to be safe.

JohnRobHolmes 07-14-2014 08:16 AM

Re: Connect BEC to balance plug?
 
You would be fine, the pins will take 5a without much problem. If you are going through the trouble of using the balance tap, why not just tap two cells and get rid of the BEC altogether

1967Typhoon 07-14-2014 08:42 AM

Re: Connect BEC to balance plug?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnRobHolmes (Post 4834432)
You would be fine, the pins will take 5a without much problem. If you are going through the trouble of using the balance tap, why not just tap two cells and get rid of the BEC altogether

I would need a HV servo for that. I also have a Bluetooth speaker setup that needs 6V. I also wouldn't like having the first 2 cells loaded heavier than the 3rd.

I think the beauty of me using the balance connector is I wouldn't have to tap anything. I can just buy a $3 balance extension and modify it for use. I don't have to make any Y connectors. I wouldn't have to tap into the ESC or battery wires to hook up my BEC. I could just connect the deans connector to the ESC, and the balance connector to the BEC. To me it seems more simple and clean. Plus, then you don't have the balance connector flopping around or getting pinched anywhere. Also, if I decided to move electronics around, I would have more flexibility in placement since they would have separate sources.

I think I will try it and monitor the temps of the connector. I will show you guys the finished product later this summer. "thumbsup"

JohnRobHolmes 07-14-2014 09:10 AM

Re: Connect BEC to balance plug?
 
I just about did the same thing this weekend with a balance tap feeding the BEC, but ended up moving the BEC to the other side of the rig and just hard soldered it into the ESC power.

1967Typhoon 07-14-2014 09:26 AM

Re: Connect BEC to balance plug?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnRobHolmes (Post 4834473)
I just about did the same thing this weekend with a balance tap feeding the BEC, but ended up moving the BEC to the other side of the rig and just hard soldered it into the ESC power.

I still may end up doing this, as adding another connector is another potential point of failure. I just thought it was something worth experimenting with. "thumbsup"

Thanks for the help.

Natedog 07-14-2014 06:44 PM

Re: Connect BEC to balance plug?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnRobHolmes (Post 4834473)
I just about did the same thing this weekend with a balance tap feeding the BEC, but ended up moving the BEC to the other side of the rig and just hard soldered it into the ESC power.

I do this straight off the esc but use a Dean's Micro plug with the one pin exposed (ground lol) to keep me from plugging in my bec backwards. :lmao:"thumbsup"

axial 4x4 crawler 07-15-2014 10:39 AM

Re: Connect BEC to balance plug?
 
I simply solder it up to the ESC and then run a servo extension from the esc to the receiver with the red (positive) wire cut and then I simply plug the BEC straight into the Batt. Channel on the receiver..that simple. If I ever need an EMERGENCY disconnect then I'll use the old scissors and cut the BEC wires haha that's how I do it.

DowntownScience 07-16-2014 03:06 PM

Cool ideas. All balance connectors aren't created equally though right? Different pin configurations for different manufacturers? Might limit you? Seems the bec plug would get worn out after many battery changes.


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