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lonleycreeper

01-04-2018 11:03 AM

Trail Honcho, For Trailing

I just picked up my new Trail Honcho from the Lhs yesterday. Shout Out to The Treasure Chest, in Missoula Mt.

My goal for this rig is to run it stock, with just cheap mods or changes to things that break, or I cannot stand. Budget for this truck is $50 a month, or less. or $12.50 a week.

I will be running 3s Venom Lipos in the 30c 2200 mah flavor, they fit snugly in the battery tray laying down, and come with xt60 to deans connecters. Yay! $26

After unboxing the truck last night, I noticed no leaking shocks, the tires feel suprisingly soft and the bumper is very low compared to the body. I was happy to see a parts tree in my box, extra links, rod ends, light buckets, lenses, a fuel can, and a few other extras. Yes it has dogbones and plastic links, but I have been running dogbones on my rigs since my original kit. And plastic slides better than aluminum.

Got to leave for work...

Heisenberg804

01-04-2018 11:12 AM

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Hey bud you should check out these guys videos. They are doing Honcho build off spending $50 a week in Upgrades. Only in Week 1 but could give you some ideas

Good Luck

https://youtu.be/adDqCrWWUno

https://youtu.be/sJz5EchFswc

StomperCrawler

01-04-2018 09:39 PM

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I'll be interested to see a) how much steering the dogbones put up with, and b) how much climbing angle the plastic links can handle before turning into spaghetti (in warmer environments).

lonleycreeper

01-06-2018 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by StomperCrawler (Post 5783667)

I'll be interested to see a) how much steering the dogbones put up with, and b) how much climbing angle the plastic links can handle before turning into spaghetti (in warmer environments).

It gets pretty warm here in summer, hitting triple digits for at least a couple weeks usually. I am a little more concerned about the cold, plastic gets pretty brittle. I will be running the rig Sunday, so we will see about that. I am planning on more snow and ice than rocks. This weekend is suposed to be right around freezing for the highs, so pretty warm for the weekend.

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg804 (Post 5783395)

Hey thanks for posting those. I subscribe to both their channels. I find though that they tend to buy stuff rather than saving money by building... Eg, Harley's Deadbolt build from a couple years ago... Bought incision links, when you can spend half as much (or less) building them.
Now I have nothing against buying stuff for your crawlers, just want to show that you don't have to throw hundreds of dollars at your rig to make it capable.

I was at a point in my life when I could not afford to buy a $26 dollar battery on a single paycheck.

(Yoda voice)So low budget build this will be. hmmm...

lonleycreeper

01-06-2018 12:31 AM

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Tally for January...

$329.99 Trail Honcho Rtr.
$26.99 Venom 30c 2200 mah 3s lipo.
$32.66 Venom ac\dc NiMh\Lipo charger

$389.64 initial purchase cost.

Rtr weight is 4 lbs 11 oz.

roadrashracing

01-07-2018 12:09 PM

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I had mine out today and love it, I plan on keeping it stock still something breaks, only thing I changed is rims and tires. I also changed battery plug to a real deans due to issues.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...b62d9670a2.jpg

lonleycreeper

01-07-2018 02:47 PM

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What issues? Just curious.

Your run looked like mine, covered in snow...

I just ran in the yard today, my friend had other plans. :(

Photo dump!

https://i.imgur.com/KSZCJCLh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ziR0JNih.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/JFYhaIGh.jpg

Steering angle.

https://i.imgur.com/D8Vx9sDh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/On8CFGah.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/RMgujjbh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/OrUuAhrh.jpg

wcdfmt510

01-07-2018 08:22 PM

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I also just picked up my honcho last week. Running it on a gens ace 5000 50c 2s.. have a f350 crew cab body im working on for this chassis.just curious to see how the stock size tires look. Working on a drop bed to. Theres a pic of it on the stock yeti 2.2 tires and a pic sitting next to my yetihttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...8dea8e0890.jpg https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...2f95182da3.jpg https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...ff419e13d7.jpg https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...8b513f1423.jpg https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...82cc576934.jpg

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lonleycreeper

01-07-2018 10:46 PM

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Next to my Twin Hammers. ;)

https://i.imgur.com/2lidaARh.jpg

I did the free mod, Harley mentioned in his video... I swapped the rear shock towers side to side, and springs front to rear.

The truck feels much softer than stock. In stock form the truck felt to stiff imo.

colbynobo

01-08-2018 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by lonleycreeper (Post 5784719)

What issues? Just curious.

If it's anything like the SCX10 ii that I have, I would bet the clone Deans connector on his truck periodically gives out resulting in a complete loss of power. I would have to unplug it and then plug it back in to restore connection. Mine always wanted to do this whenever it was most inconvenient (top of the hill, middle of the mud-bog, deep in the underbrush). A genuine Deans connector also resolved my issue.

lonleycreeper

01-08-2018 10:44 AM

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Next to my heavy weight, brushless, custom built, F150.

I have to rebuild the front bumper on my F150 ... again...

https://i.imgur.com/IoSw1szh.jpg

TAT76

01-08-2018 03:18 PM

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Oh heck Yeah! Glad to see you picked up the new honcho. Loved the OG back in the day. We'll have to meet up and compare rtr's.

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lonleycreeper

01-08-2018 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TAT76 (Post 5785214)

Oh heck Yeah! Glad to see you picked up the new honcho. Loved the OG back in the day. We'll have to meet up and compare rtr's.

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roadrashracing

01-08-2018 06:10 PM

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I was having issues with the stock battery connector fitting an adaptor I bought to run traxxas connectors.

lonleycreeper

01-08-2018 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by roadrashracing (Post 5785304)

I was having issues with the stock battery connector fitting an adaptor I bought to run traxxas connectors.

Oh wow, I will keep an eye on that. I have never had an issue with Venom's adapters, and I tend to leave the adapter on the truck, and unplug the battery from there. We will see, and I will report from there.

I have been holding on to some Hpi T.T. rear fenders for what 7-8 years now, lol, just for this body. They took a little customizing, but fit like they were made for the honcho.
Also mounted up my old school 8 holes, and proline tsl's

https://i.imgur.com/wZNoVAIh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/eadNltoh.jpg

Jerseycrewmax

01-08-2018 09:00 PM

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How does it compare size wise to the previous honcho?

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lonleycreeper

01-08-2018 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerseycrewmax (Post 5785379)

How does it compare size wise to the previous honcho?

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They are identical in size. The differences I see...

New. Old.
Rims, Methods vs Walker Evans.

Tires, 4.75 Falken vs 4.3 Ripsaw.

Axles, ax10 vs Ar44.

Body Paint yellow vs silver. Note, the body holes do not line up, old vs new

Cage Spare tire mount vs none.

Chassis servo on axle vs cms.

Links plastic vs much better plastic.

Esc Ae2 vs Ae5

I am sure there are more...

vipers28

01-09-2018 09:14 AM

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Mine won't fit/work either. So now going to buy a new battery.

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Originally Posted by roadrashracing (Post 5785304)

I was having issues with the stock battery connector fitting an adaptor I bought to run traxxas connectors.

PounceTheBear

01-09-2018 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by vipers28 (Post 5785538)

Mine won't fit/work either. So now going to buy a new battery.

I had that same issue. I took an Xacto knife and shaved a very small amount of the openings and gave it a little extra umphf and it went on. Now the trick will be to get it off

-Tyler

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lonleycreeper

01-09-2018 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerseycrewmax (Post 5785392)

Good to know, so sounds like any overall improvement

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Yeah a definite improvement all around.

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Originally Posted by vipers28 (Post 5785538)

Mine won't fit/work either. So now going to buy a new battery.

Why buy a new battery? You can just change the connector on the esc to match your battery. $3-$4 instead of $25- a whole bunch of money.

I spent a little time in the shop today.

Made a bracket to lift the front bumper.

https://i.imgur.com/RrrXmnMh.jpg

Bumper is even with or slightly higher than the lowest part of the body.

https://i.imgur.com/7O5XTeGh.jpg

And I made a winch plate, and mounted an old rc4wd Bulldog. Need to get a controller for it.

https://i.imgur.com/qqfQQ9Yh.jpg

lonleycreeper

01-09-2018 04:17 PM

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I ran her today, Rain on top of snow, with the acompaning slush. I was pushing snow with the front axle...

For the first time, I can climb my steps up the deck, The low cg and sticky proline's are the advantage here.

Over all happy with the setup, and this is my small tire truck for sure.

The funny thing is the Honcho has the same vertical clearance 4.3" Tsl's, under the diff as my F150, on 4.75" growlers. SSD D60's

Th three trucks...

The height difference is about equal beteen all three.

https://i.imgur.com/3uikKWfl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/gSxp4Qfl.jpg

vipers28

01-10-2018 01:13 PM

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New to this and no idea how or what parts. Would the battery have the same issues as the connector?

"Why buy a new battery? You can just change the connector on the esc to match your battery. $3-$4 instead of $25- a whole bunch of money."

Heisenberg804

01-10-2018 05:02 PM

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Week 2 videos out.

https://youtu.be/LrBLqljxdnI

https://youtu.be/iOVxXOA6Cfw

lonleycreeper

01-11-2018 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by vipers28 (Post 5786187)

Not usually. I have only ever had one battery side connector fail, and it was my fault for not wrapping shrink tube around the joints. It ground out on the metal of the chassis and caught the Nimh battery on fire. It sounds like the esc connector is not up to the same quality as a genuine Deans connector. So eithr a solder joint is failing, or it is getting mechanicaly loose. I havent had a problem yet, but I only have run three packs through mine.

A picture of the adapter I am running, no wires, just a nice solid connection.

https://i.imgur.com/Ovn3yRll.jpg

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg804 (Post 5786295)

Week 2 videos out.

https://youtu.be/LrBLqljxdnI

https://youtu.be/iOVxXOA6Cfw

Thanks for posting.

TAT76

01-11-2018 05:45 AM

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Why use an adaptor and not just put a new one on esc, less resistance?
I watched both. All that styrene in less then a week, wish I had those skills. Harleys I would have thought to address the issues when he did the changes but glad to see him point them out.

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wcdfmt510

01-11-2018 06:08 AM

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One thing I really don't like is that it foes not have a on/off switch

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Big Sky Crawler

01-11-2018 09:28 AM

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I have a Honcho on the way sure wish we had a hobby shop in Great Falls Doesn't Missoula have a few? BTW im digging the rear fenders.

lonleycreeper

01-11-2018 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TAT76 (Post 5786504)

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Originally Posted by wcdfmt510 (Post 5786510)

One thing I really don't like is that it foes not have a on/off switch

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I actually prefer not having a switch. I prefer the positive battery disconnect, in fact if my esc comes with a switch. I frequently remove it, old racer habits, I guess. I have had a few switchs fail, usually to on, and if the battery is left plugged in,= dead lipo.

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Originally Posted by Big Sky Crawler (Post 5786612)

I have a Honcho on the way sure wish we had a hobby shop in Great Falls Doesn't Missoula have a few? BTW im digging the rear fenders.

Hey thanks, You will enjoy it for sure. Yes Missoula currently has two hobby shops, Blue Ribbon Auto, up in the north end of Missoula, and The Treasure Chest, down on the South end.
The fenders I have been saving for 7-8 years, waiting for a build like this. I have wanted a honcho for years, early on I couldn't afford it. Then when I set the money aside The body combo was out of stock for months. Then I would get distracted and spend on another project. Anyway just never got around to it. When they announced the rerelease of the honcho,I jumped on it, wanting a Scx10II as well.

lonleycreeper

01-11-2018 10:22 AM

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I filled the bed up a little, Found a locking tote about the right size at Walmart for .88 cents and had these fuel cans from yeah racing, just sitting around, same with the pick. Lhs didn't have any white paint, so waiting on painting the fenders until I find the right stuff.

https://i.imgur.com/d1o1joFl.jpg

Big Sky Crawler

01-11-2018 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by lonleycreeper (Post 5786625)

Honestly, I am being lazy.
That said, my understanding is. With a good fitting adapter in a low amp draw rig, like a scaler, the resistance is not noticeable. I will have to throw my watt meter on and see what kind of amperage she pulls when bound up. My buddys rig only pulls 20 amps when fully bound, and 2amps when running free at full throttle with a similar 3s 35t setup.

Edit: The adapter comes with a battery rated at 66 amps continuious and 132 amps burst

I actually prefer not having a switch. I prefer the positive battery disconnect, in fact if my esc comes with a switch. I frequently remove it, old racer habits, I guess. I have had a few switchs fail, usually to on, and if the battery is left plugged in,= dead lipo.

Hey thanks, You will enjoy it for sure. Yes Missoula currently has two hobby shops, Blue Ribbon Auto, up in the north end of Missoula, and The Treasure Chest, down on the South end.
The fenders I have been saving for 7-8 years, waiting for a build like this. I have wanted a honcho for years, early on I couldn't afford it. Then when I set the money aside The body combo was out of stock for months. Then I would get distracted and spend on another project. Anyway just never got around to it. When they announced the rerelease of the honcho,I jumped on it, wanting a Scx10II as well.

I love my 10 2 nice rig right out of box.

TAT76

01-12-2018 04:27 PM

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No white paint? You need to find a better lhs.. lol [emoji14]

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lonleycreeper

01-13-2018 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Sky Crawler (Post 5786654)

I love my 10 2 nice rig right out of box.

Nice looking rig. Do I spy Boggers on there?

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Originally Posted by TAT76 (Post 5787183)

No white paint? You need to find a better lhs.. lol [emoji14]

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Lol. They have Fascolor, my airbrush is acting up though, They ordered Pactra on the spot, so a week or so.

lonleycreeper

01-13-2018 10:57 AM

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Light bar, off a Hilux.

Rc mart has something very similar for $5.90. Xs-57016 with led's.
Yeah racing Jerry cans... $5.99
You can find a highlift for $5.90 on ebay

<a href="https://imgur.com/ELW4rU8"><img src="https://i.imgur.com/ELW4rU8l.jpg" title="source: imgur.com" /></a>

https://i.imgur.com/Skd08EDl.jpg

And laid down..

https://i.imgur.com/P4Yzro8l.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/K7pfMOWl.jpg

Big Sky Crawler

01-13-2018 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by lonleycreeper (Post 5787413)

Nice looking rig. Do I spy Boggers on there?

Lol. They have Fascolor, my airbrush is acting up though, They ordered Pactra on the spot, so a week or so.

Yes sir 1st set of them and am really diggin them need a set for my Marlin now.

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lonleycreeper

01-13-2018 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Sky Crawler (Post 5787485)

Yes sir 1st set of them and am really diggin them need a set for my Marlin now.

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I ran them on my wife's scx10, and really liked them. They have fantastic forward traction, but lack a little on the loose side hills, typically sliding off line.

ScoJac

01-14-2018 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by lonleycreeper (Post 5786633)

Looking good, dig that tiny locking tote. whereabouts inside walmart did you find that ?

lonleycreeper

01-14-2018 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ScoJac (Post 5787706)

Looking good, dig that tiny locking tote. whereabouts inside walmart did you find that ?

I found it in the office supplies, near the desk storage stuff. Hope that helps.

ScoJac

01-14-2018 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by lonleycreeper (Post 5787707)

I found it in the office supplies, near the desk storage stuff. Hope that helps.

Thanks "thumbsup", saves me from wandering around too much in there.

lonleycreeper

01-14-2018 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ScoJac (Post 5787710)

Thanks "thumbsup", saves me from wandering around too much in there.

Lol, any time!

I made it out with my good buddy Cory, did 4 miles on Big Creek trail.

https://i.imgur.com/4aeMn5rl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/PRbVoqVl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Wws1tICl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/l9AhzZNl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/EH52P6yl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/IYyddPUl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/32CLvE7l.jpg

charvel74

01-14-2018 07:32 PM

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I have been eyeing the new honcho RTR for a few weeks now. Looks like everyone is happy with theirs here. My only concern is the new axles in some reviews they point out that they are a weak link in the Honcho. Any issues so far with this?

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