Tire question...

[jrowles91]

I've searched and read a lot of similar titled threads but am having a little trouble understanding what I'm reading.

I recently got my Wraith and am looking for crawling specific tires. I'll have my stock ones for trail riding but want some aggressive rock crawling tires too. My questions are what tire size am I looking for? What is 1.9 or 2.2 tires? The tires are clearly larger then that..

Sorry if redudant

THanks!

[offroadace]

Wheel diameter.

1.9 inches.
2.2 inches.

Most Wraiths I have seen look/function better with 2.2.
I tried 1.9's on mine and it looked like a lifted truck on 10inch tires. Just awful.

Then you'll need to figure out what tires you want.

[jrowles91]

Originally Posted by offroadace

Wheel diameter.

1.9 inches.
2.2 inches.

Most Wraiths I have seen look/function better with 2.2.
I tried 1.9's on mine and it looked like a lifted truck on 10inch tires. Just awful.

Then you'll need to figure out what tires you want.

Oh gotcha. The factory wheel is a 2.2 on the Wraith right? I'm thinking of trying the Rovers. I like the looks and they are the most recommended I've found.

[KillerBlackbird]

Originally Posted by jrowles91

Oh gotcha. The factory wheel is a 2.2 on the Wraith right? I'm thinking of trying the Rovers. I like the looks and they are the most recommended I've found.

Yes, stock wheel is a 2.2.
I run RC4WD Iroks on my Wraith and they do great, very soft and sticky. Different or modified foams can completely change how a tire performs too.

When tires are classified as 1.55, 1.7, 1.9, 2.0, or 2.2 they're referring to wheel diameter just like the wheel size on a normal life size car. There are different overall diameter size tires that fit on the same size wheel too. My Iroks for example are 5.75" tall while the Axial Ripsaws I believe are 5.5", both of those are still 2.2 tires. So that's another thing to look at before ordering. Since the Wraith doesn't have wheel wells the tire has to tuck into when the suspension compresses its not that big of an issue unless you want to keep the diameter as close to stock as possible.

[KillerBlackbird]

Also, if you plan on using them for strictly crawling I'd probably go with the stickiest compound. RC4WD's X2SS I believe is their current softest rubber compound. Everyone seems to love PitBull Rockbeast IIs but I haven't personally used them, everyone says those are super soft too.

[jrowles91]

How do you like the Iroks compared to the stockers. I did want a little extra room under the diffs so the slightly higher diameter is what I want. Are they a lot better crawling?

[Freakshow185]

My wraith is used strictly for crawling. I ran the White Dot Rovers for a couple months. The same tires I have ran on any of my rigs. The Wraith is an animal with the Rovers. A very sticky and high performing tire. But, they do not have the scale look I was looking for.
I recently started running the Proline TSL Super Swampers with memory foams. I ran every line I ever took with my Rovers. They are slightly smaller than the stock tires. (Roughly the same size as Rovers) But the performance for a scale tire is unbelievable. Super sticky, yet hold their shape very well. Plus, they look fantastic. I've only got a few hours in on these tires. They aren't even broke in yet. I have not once missed my Rovers. I highly recommend the TSL Swampers with a nice soft memory foam. You will not be disappointed. Just in case you are considering these tires. The stock foams are "ok." I use another Proline foam, part #6197-02. Most guys will tell you to run the Stage 2 foams by Proline. Just because they cost more. Doesn't make them better. Good luck on your search for the right tire!

[jrowles91]

Do you have a picture of your wraith with the Swampers? You think the swampers are equal to the performance of the Rovers?

[Freakshow185]

I am currently on my phone so I can't upload a pic. If you need one now you can message me your phone # and I could send you a few pics.
With the foams I just put in my TSL's I would say that they are neck and neck with the Rovers. Like I said, I don't miss em. There are pros and cons between the two tires. The Swampers are horrible when they are wet. But I personally don't do much crawling in the rain. Or any water for that matter. I probably won't run Rovers on any of my scale rigs from here on out. I'm sold on the TSL's.

[KillerBlackbird]

Originally Posted by jrowles91

How do you like the Iroks compared to the stockers. I did want a little extra room under the diffs so the slightly higher diameter is what I want. Are they a lot better crawling?

I actually never used the RipSaws haha. Right out of the gate I used the Iroks. I have slightly taller shocks (RC4WD King 110mm) so it sits a little higher too, but the extra flex is great for crawling. I am using the RipSaw foams in my Iroks too, so the tire conforms to rocks better in my opinion. The foams that came with the Iroks were a little too stiff for my liking.

I have the Proline TSL/SX Super Swampers on my Honcho and those perform very well just like Freakshow said.


Axial Honcho by -KillerBlackbird-, on Flickr

And the Iroks on my Wraith:


Axial Wraith by -KillerBlackbird-, on Flickr


Axial Wraith by -KillerBlackbird-, on Flickr


Axial Wraith by -KillerBlackbird-, on Flickr

[jrowles91]

I like those Wraith wheels! My plan was to run my stock wheels/tires for trail riding and switch to the crawler specific for those certain outings.