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Old 01-29-2012, 01:14 PM   #1
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i need some pics trying to install the cms and panhard kit from vp and ive searched and searched but havent found any pics to help me out yet
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Old 01-29-2012, 01:48 PM   #2
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look on CKRC's website a ton of pics
It bolts in if you put the CMS to close to the front it will hit the upper link mount when compressed.
The servo almost hits the receiver box when bolted up so there's not alot of options to get it wrong
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here's mine I just did, if you need more LMK


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thanks for the help once i seen how it went it was a breeze thanks now just waiting on the the knuckles,rear lockouts and chubs. i had strc on here and havent even drove it yet but when i got these parts in and seen how well vp's stuff is i ordered the knuckles, chubs and rear lockouts.
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Old 01-29-2012, 02:52 PM   #5
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No problem, when I got mine out of the pack I'm like how in the Beep does this go together, but after looking for a while it went easy, don't forget to take 1 of the upper links off, don't matter which one. And if you have flipped the lower shock mount over to get a lower ride height you will need to cut the mount of the back of the panhard mount that goes around the axle
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One would think the panhard kit would come with 1 Upper link, so you didnt have an extra when buying a set of uppers since they say to remove one its only 12 bucks but I see it unlikely to break an upper of course I have 0 run time on a big rock crawling rig yet though
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Old 01-29-2012, 04:16 PM   #7
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I didn't but the VP links, I had a set of Crawler Innovations delrin links
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Old 01-29-2012, 05:17 PM   #8
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I didn't but the VP links, I had a set of Crawler Innovations delrin links
im not running vp links either im running a set of solid stainless 4mm links from r2j on here and they are great. and have the price of vp's for the whole set uppers lowers and steering and drag for $55 shipped
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Old 01-29-2012, 05:32 PM   #9
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Shon makes some GREAT stuff, I have used his trusses on everything Axial based I have built.
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Old 01-29-2012, 05:35 PM   #10
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One would think the panhard kit would come with 1 Upper link, so you didnt have an extra when buying a set of uppers since they say to remove one its only 12 bucks but I see it unlikely to break an upper of course I have 0 run time on a big rock crawling rig yet though
That would be sweet! You'll have that extra in your parts bin for ever. Or you'll only need to buy 1 pair for your next build with cms.
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I got one of these kits last week.After going through all the trouble putting it on,the steering link would barely reach the servo and was in a hell of a bind. I have the vanquish steering links.So im not sure whats up

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I got one of these kits last week.After going through all the trouble putting it on,the steering link would barely reach the servo and was in a hell of a bind. I have the vanquish steering links.So im not sure whats up

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the links im running that shon made me (r2j) thats what i was worried about because i had read if you run just a cms your ok but if you run a cms and a panhard your steering link will be too short and mine fits perfect. ill post some pics now and then tomorrow with the links,new knuckles and chubs installed.
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Old 01-29-2012, 10:57 PM   #14
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I`m not running a panhard kit.I just wanted to get the servo tucked up under the front cause it looks way better.I got this one though AXIAL WRAITH RC CRAWLER > CMS CHASSIS MOUNTED SERVO KIT | eBay
Or do you need the panhard for it to work? I didnt want to lose one of the 4 links for the panhard kit from what i have read

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Old 01-30-2012, 02:36 AM   #15
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If you don't use a panhard bar you will get bumpsteer.
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Looking good!
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thanks vp for all the great products and to r2j for the great links..
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Ok so question. I just got mine all installed... (thnx for the awesome pictures everyone)....

I still have both links installed, I see no binding issue's etc, so why does everyone say it can only be 3 linked? My suspension cycles just fine from what I can see.


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Old 02-06-2012, 07:30 PM   #19
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ok i have no clue at all i have wondered the same thing too... please let me know how it does because i didnt wanna get rid of my 4th link but everyone was saying it binds so i just took mine off so please let me know how yours does.

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Ok so question. I just got mine all installed... (thnx for the awesome pictures everyone)....

I still have both links installed, I see no binding issue's etc, so why does everyone say it can only be 3 linked? My suspension cycles just fine from what I can see.


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Do you still have the factory plastic upper links installed?

You need to remove one of the upper links to allow for slight side to side movement in relation to the panhard. The higher the Wraith sits, the more apparent the bump steer will be and more potential for suspension bind.

I'm running the VP CMS/Panhard with VP upper and lower links. I did not remove the 2nd upper link initially just simply to see what kind of bind it created. Mine had noticeable bind when it got about 2/3 way to bottomed out. Removed the link which removed the bind and had zero bump steer.

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