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Fanfor88 04-17-2012 04:20 PM

"Cage" Breaking
 
So i was messing with the Wraith today. Took my rear shocks off to rebuild the leaky SOB`s and found it broke :cry:

http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/membe...2401-33603.jpg

http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/membe...2401-33602.jpg

The first one you can see right in front of the shock the whole piece is missing where it screws in, and in the second pic it missing around where the wire comes down from the esc. The whole chunk is missing in both. I swear i have the worse luck with this things. Sorry for the crappy cellphone pics. Snapped them before work. So guess im have to replace some pieces and figure out a way to reinforce it some. Both of them broke right where the screws go through them.The one piece in the second pic was still hanging on for dear life before i coughed and it fell off lol.

irollgen4s 04-17-2012 06:19 PM

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I assume bashing? :ror:

cooterwrenchen 04-17-2012 06:46 PM

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that sucks. If you were closer i'd give you my whole chassis since i'm going a different direction with my AR60's.

THX_138 04-17-2012 06:57 PM

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If Wraiths didn't break, they wouldn't be able to sell replacement parts.

Watched a show one time about 1:1 cars and I can't imagine RC's and every other thing sold wouldn't have the same deal going on.

The show was about 1:1 vehicles from inception to death. It explained how (just using random numbers, I forget the exact numbers), but just say they spent 20 million dollars for a company to design an entire vehicle.
They then send the 20 million dollar design plans to some company in Switzerland and in turn pay them 100 million dollars (5x's design costs, sometimes more), to then take every single part and design each one to wear out or break within exact pre-determined time and use windows. Theory was, the profit is not made from selling a new car... The profit comes from selling the replacement parts.

I have a 6-wheeled AATV MaXII amphibious 6x6 ATV. The entire body is made of some sort of very strong plastic. You could take a swing at it with a 3 lb. ball-peen hammer at 20 below zero as hard as you want and it wouldn't make a mark. I have used and abused this thing to the maximum and the plastic shows no wear or breaks yet.

Now...I am sure I do not have the only product that uses a near indestructible plastic, but I often wonder when buying one of my kids a new $80 toy because the brand new one just lasted 30 seconds out of the box new, why the plastic is so weak! Why are the chassis links, axles, chubs etc... on a Wraith not made of a better plastic ....? It is all about the replacement sales I would guess?

Replacement $$$$ gotta love it"thumbsup"


If they figured the loss of $$$$ from replacement parts in to the sale of an indestructible plastic parts built Wraith.... I doubt anyone would bother to consider purchasing one, the price would be much to high?

gabehunt 04-17-2012 07:05 PM

Re: "Cage" Breaking
 
i broke the same thing on mine. it dropped off a 20+ft cliff

agent00111 04-17-2012 07:42 PM

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Yeah. I broke that. https://www.rpphobby.com/ProductDeta...ctCode=AX80074.

Tried to glue it together but no go. I should have tried JB weld with metal rods.

On the upside, break and upgrade enough things and you get to the point where you have some spares "thumbsup"

Somebody should put up a survey poll of broken wraith parts!:shock:

Harley 04-17-2012 07:43 PM

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First one I've seen like that. Pretty surprised.

trig n tahoe 04-17-2012 07:43 PM

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yeah shit happens bet you havin fun though huh? workin on it is half the fun!!! lets see a pic of how u fixed it "thumbsup"

agent00111 04-17-2012 07:46 PM

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Oh, and if you broke the tube frame rail on both sides, at least the same part number includes both sides!!!!

Fanfor88 04-17-2012 08:32 PM

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I wouldn`t say i bash it. I mean i have fun with it crawling and mudding. I dont jump it off 20 foot cliffs LOL. I dont jump it at all. I was crawling a few weekends ago and was going up some very steep rocks though and it did flip about 5 times down it. I`m guessing that`s where it broke at. When i relocated the battery to the front and took the battery tray out of the back i think that did weaken that area some though. I was working with the battery tray before work, cutting it down. Gonna install the middle part of it it between the 2 shocks to strengthen it up. Also loooking around to see what i can find and see what i can come up with,without adding alot of weight.

Fanfor88 04-17-2012 08:50 PM

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Cooter - That would be nice! "thumbsup" lol
THX - if i had the $$$ to have 6 wheelers as toys i dont know if i`d be playing with RC`s :lmao:

sloppy 04-17-2012 09:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Harley (Post 3690056)
First one I've seen like that. Pretty surprised.

I am pretty surprised its the first one you have seen like that. :ror:

Natedog 04-19-2012 10:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by agent00111 (Post 3690067)
Oh, and if you broke the tube frame rail on both sides, at least the same part number includes both sides!!!!

Nope different part numbers for left and right sides of the cage.

Axial Wraith Tube Frame Side (Left), AX80087

Axial Wraith Tube Frame Side (Right), AX80088

Quote:

Originally Posted by sloppy (Post 3690230)
I am pretty surprised its the first one you have seen like that.

x2 LOL

Quote:

Originally Posted by trig n tahoe (Post 3690058)
yeah shit happens bet you havin fun though huh? workin on it is half the fun!!! lets see a pic of how u fixed it

Yes.

Brandon 04-19-2012 10:38 AM

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Looks like you're not running the battery tray in the back anymore. Thats a critical support piece tying the bottom of the frame to the upper shock mounts.

If you want to avoid that from breaking in the future install the battery tray again.

"thumbsup"

agent00111 04-19-2012 07:25 PM

The left/right rails are a different part number than the left side frame or right side frame. I almost made the mistake of buying the side frame thinking that is what broke, but I looked again and compared to the kit part manual and it's the lower rail set, not the side frame. Be sure u order the right part if u are replacing it.

Fanfor88 04-19-2012 08:52 PM

Re: "Cage" Breaking
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon (Post 3692675)
Looks like you're not running the battery tray in the back anymore. Thats a critical support piece tying the bottom of the frame to the upper shock mounts.

If you want to avoid that from breaking in the future install the battery tray again.

"thumbsup"

You are right. I chopped it up and reinstalled it now though. It`s actually pretty strong considering both sides are broken. I`m gonna ride it out and not replace them until i have too. On a side note i installed a bunch of new parts i had for it. I was waiting on stuff to break that wouldnt lol. Titan motors are freakin awesome i will say that. I ended up taking it out finally, it wouldnt die. Replaced with HH 20t and BRXL. Put on my new RC4WD G-made shocks and my new RC4WD Super Swampers. Now i just need a day off to go play.


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