Mad Skinz InSaNe FOFF Wraith
 

We took this in trade thinking it would be a good all around rig for the sand. It has cut Two-Two Slingers and lotsa beef to it Gears, Shafts, Links, Shocks.
Besides, Brushless who could resist? The price was right..
Only problem was, it wasn't even 20 mph.. Castle 3800 thru a gearbox is just not impressive. 3s....what...? I thought I had a Dead cell. Nope..
....It was supposed to be super fast rig with jet-like launches and lotsa air under it right?...
But as a lover of Broncos, I was all about it. So, it sits here now.
....Donor..

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Heres the culprit of my unthrilling Trade.. Im still confused how people run a Roc412 3100kv in their scaler? Cause the Castle 3800 is not impressive.

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After pulling off axles and gutting the running gear, Im thinking we should go IFS in the front.
But, Im going to do my best to run this little 3800 so, I need a revised power train. Not exactly sure how itll work.
Its just a thought as of now.

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This looks like a nice project. Can't wait to see what you do with it knowing your other builds.

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That and the gearing. I'm running the 54/16 like you said. Plenty fast for u4. Pro4 4000kv on 2s

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Looks like your geared really low between your pinion/spur that would be the first thing I looked at then regear it taller.

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Unlike just having a Wraith or Wrexo with paddle tires and a BL motor, This actually has no trans and is still 4wd. Its also gonna serve as a dual purpose rig. IFS is part of the U4rc and Rtx we run. Theres a lot of custom parts manufactured by us. The driveline is 160mm alone. We also kept it class legal to a 2.2 by using crawler beadlocks and not using sct wheels.

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The Mid point of the build. (All the little EXO fittings and steering components drive me nuts.)
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Only problem with gearing right now is space between the shaft and the motor. If I go smaller with the pinion. Ill risk smacking the shaft on the lil Castle 3800.
Going up in size too on the P, IM looking to keep the heat down on 3s. Bench testing, the tires ballooned and almost peeled the beads out.

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There was this lil goodie from a previous purchase. It kinda just fit the right amount of Bling. I also have the Rear EXO Cvds on the front and have never broken a set.
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Everything is coming together quite nice under the hood.

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Dave at Black Ops Hydro, Did a Sick Dip. Green Zombies over silver backing.

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Who makes this?

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Looks like either Integy or Topcad

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Yeah, agreed. Looks kinda cool.

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Believe it or not, INTEGY. I replaced all the gears with Axial Hd's cause I am sure something would go out, 1st run.

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Heres Wertys custom massaged Driveline he built for me.
We decided it needed a Stroker Shaft.
First the original MIP shaft was lathed into the Komodo HD Shaft.
I haven't broken a Komodo shaft running Brushless before but the pins are weak. The lower side had to be drilled to the MIP spec.
The MIP pin and elbow had to work or this whole thing would be pointless. The elbows wouldn't squeeze in, so they needed to be taken down some too.
Clamped down on the MIP Pin, its pretty solid now. At 165mm long, Im still wondering how we did it.

http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...216_173211.jpg

Wow. That's crazy long.

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Cookin with Jim Beam Now.... Almost ready to run.

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I had the same setup in a rig. 14/87 and it hauled the mail. I thought it was quick anyhow.

Cool build. I like the rear axle.

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Not near enough voltage.

2650 kV on 6s is what yer after :)


Rig looks awesome

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That's what she said, ..

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Awesome idea but.... where would I mount it? The side of the belly doesn't allow anything 1/8th scale. Plus this motor has to work. Its going with the green theme.

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With the rear bolted up, .. I dig the look but the cnter shafts barely fit inside the locker. I guess well see if it breaks???

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Heres the side hood shot in better lighting. Oh YEAH!

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Its low..... mean.... and should shred a bead or two!

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Looks sick Scott. Nice job as always.

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if it runs as good as it looks it should be a beast "thumbsup"

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The 1/8 scale motors fit. High kV really isnt the best for anything I run a 2200kv on 6s yes it doesn't just bolt right in but it does work and is well worth the effort.


Love the green theme you've got going. droooooooling

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I wasn't going to attempt an 1/8th system when a 550 (length or diameter around) Will not fit in the frame rails.
This is aside the rear shaft would eat into any 1/8th can. Also these are too long. The rear stay and screws on the wraith tranny pan would only have 1 screw.
I know the argument about 6s, but never designed to run lipos like mine @ 5000mah. Theyd neither fit under the hood and would weigh, 28oz.
As for the Kv, @ 2200 on 6s, Im looking at 44,400 rpm.
Even on the 3800kv @ 11.1, Id still pull 42,180rpm before gearing.
Since id rather have it lighter and skip any expense on the system, more Lipos and save the weight, The 3800 will work just fine.
If I was going to bump it up, I have a pro4 4600kv sitting on the shelf as a direct drop in. Plus, These are what I run on my scalers and all my 2.2 rigs so I am familiar with the tuning involved.
So, at 4600kv x 11.1V = 51,060rpm. I do have a method to my madness.

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Higher kV means less may for the same run times more power more efficient more better.

Not sure what you mean by frame rails. Interior issues may be more problematic then bolting the motor on.

DMG may make a spacer to help fit big motors though the length issue still needs addressed.

I'm sure the motor you have will work. Yes the rpm s are there but not the power no where near comparable to high power motor turning similar rpms

Looking forward to some mean green running vids

This is roughly the same size as a tekin t8

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The motor pictured on 6s 2650watts or so
http://youtu.be/qTU2YqMXyxw

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That's a beast no doubt....! Sounds like a full metal transmission.
Ive had plenty 6s systems on the sand and still have my 1/5th Savage w/ paddles and full telemetry.

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I considered using the trans but figured this lil 3800 sucked as I first acquired it.
I also needed more RPM to the wheels. Hence the loss of the trans. A gear reduction didn't really have my attention.
Now, My EXO has had paddles on it and runs a 2650 too. Its only been maxed out at 4s around 50m mph. http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/...711_144435.jpg

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The object Im trying to stick with as much as I can, The main theme was lighter and faster. The rig loaded is 4lbs, 10oz..
I still have a few things to do and need some speed numbers, plus a lil run time before I figure out what to do next. I might even put the slingers back on there to see what it does on the trail.

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Heres some video...

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looks killer scott

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First Run, Nothing broke....! But the fan isn't working on the esc and it went into thermal. It cooled and I got roughly another 10 mins of runtime. {Repeat} nothing broke..! Good 1st Run.

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Hey, they even look good in the Carrier bag too.

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A much needed part came thru today.... Either running high power or larger tires, you will need to upgrade the diff housing.

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Nice. I need to order one of these for mine.