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10-07-2014, 05:28 PM | #1 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Reynoldsburg
Posts: 121
| Methods, Treps and DW foams a no go?
I can't get the two outer pieces close enough together to make this work. Do I need to trim the foams? Push harder? Here's a pic. |
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10-07-2014, 05:30 PM | #2 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Reynoldsburg
Posts: 121
| Re: Methods, Treps and DW foams a no go?
The center part of the wheel looks to be about .75 inches.
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10-07-2014, 05:35 PM | #3 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Vancouver, B.C.
Posts: 321
| Re: Methods, Treps and DW foams a no go?
Push harder, use the ends to clamp it. I used another 2.2 rim to sit the wheel onto while I was pushing and screwing each bolt 1 turn.... and pray that the bead stay aligned while you do this.
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10-07-2014, 05:40 PM | #4 |
RCC Addict Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Vermont
Posts: 1,011
| Re: Methods, Treps and DW foams a no go?
It's a common problem. We all have been there. Eddie makes a narrow foam again, or CarterFab makes wider cans. There's another vendor that also naked a delrin spacer too, but I can't seem to rember of hand. For some reason, those wheel / tire / foam combo are super picky. You could trim the foams (which I did), but you get a wheel wobble. I don't like that for speed (slow crawling, who cares). Good luck. You're not the only one, and will not be the last. |
10-07-2014, 05:41 PM | #5 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bellaire, MI
Posts: 564
| Re: Methods, Treps and DW foams a no go?
Carterfab cans. Carter Fab & Machine » True 1.250″ Cans for VP scale wheels (2.2) Here's my Yeti with them installed with Methods, CI foams, and R35 Treps. |
10-07-2014, 05:42 PM | #6 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: the 'burgh'
Posts: 976
| Re: Methods, Treps and DW foams a no go?
You can do one of two things, I took a dremel cutoff wheel and shaved off the bulge of the DW foams sidewalls, making them narrower, fit my Methods & BFG's with the stock rings just fine and dandy. You could purchase wider rings from Carter Fab, he has 1" & 1.25" and there's another vendor that makes a ring widner kit. (Ha, others beat me to punch) |
10-07-2014, 05:51 PM | #7 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Reynoldsburg
Posts: 121
| Re: Methods, Treps and DW foams a no go?
K, at least my yeti isn't waiting on a solution. I think I'll get the wideners. The bead keeps popping when I push hard enough to get a sceew started. Last thing I want to do is strip the threading...
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10-07-2014, 06:04 PM | #8 |
5th D Owner/Driver Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Snoqualmie, Wa.
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| Re: Methods, Treps and DW foams a no go?
Treps and Methods are horrible to get the beads to seat since the bead on Axial tires isnt very big to begin with. BDN makes the other wideners. |
10-07-2014, 06:09 PM | #9 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Reynoldsburg
Posts: 121
| Re: Methods, Treps and DW foams a no go?
Anyone have a link to the bdns? or to the thinner foams? The CF seem to be out of stock. Also, google hasn't heard of "bdn widener".
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10-07-2014, 06:56 PM | #10 | |
Rock Stacker Join Date: May 2011 Location: WA
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| Re: Methods, Treps and DW foams a no go?
is this with the 1.25 cans or the 1.0? thanks Quote:
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10-07-2014, 09:56 PM | #11 |
Rock Stacker Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Sacramento
Posts: 76
| Re: Methods, Treps and DW foams a no go?
Ironic I just saw this post. Just went through this exact same install with treps, methods, and CI foams. What everyone said is true, you just have to really push down and hope you can grab a thread on one of the screws. Took for ever and multiple tried per wheel but finally got them to install correctly. They do look sweet when all done and installed. Worth it.
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10-07-2014, 11:19 PM | #12 | |
5th D Owner/Driver Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Snoqualmie, Wa.
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| Re: Methods, Treps and DW foams a no go? Quote:
New "VP Wheel Widners" for VP Method and KMC Enduro Wheels | |
10-08-2014, 10:16 AM | #13 |
Newbie Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Finland
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| Re: Methods, Treps and DW foams a no go?
Would longer bolts help? Start tightening with long srews adn replace then one by one with shorter.
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10-08-2014, 11:01 AM | #14 |
RCC Addict Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Mt. Juliet, TN
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| Re: Methods, Treps and DW foams a no go?
I had this same issue mounting Methods, BFGs, and DD foams. My trick? Set something heavy on the foams, like a tool box, to compress them for a few days then install. Works like a champ for me and the foams will go back to their normal size once installed. I've mounted my wheel/tire/foam combo on the stock VP cans using my method with no problems but I do use CFM 1" cans for a little wider tire profile.
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10-08-2014, 03:02 PM | #15 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: B.C.Canada
Posts: 608
| Re: Methods, Treps and DW foams a no go?
I been having issues with many of the scale Vanquish rims and most tires,but Axial tires are the hardest to mount on them. Most don't hold a bead worth a crap and it's depressing when they cost so much I own almost every set of Vanquish wheels and i'm about done with them. They really need to start making wider wheels and adding a 1/16-1/8" to the bead ring diameter would make a huge improvement.And adding 1 more bolt to the back side of both sizes would really help. They could learn a few things from Mayhem for sure. Carter Fab wider rings would be sweet but they never have stock and don't answer my e-mails after trying to order 3-4 sets. |
10-08-2014, 03:11 PM | #16 |
Newbie Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: SLC
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10-08-2014, 07:29 PM | #17 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: B.C.Canada
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10-08-2014, 07:30 PM | #18 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Reynoldsburg
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10-08-2014, 07:40 PM | #19 | |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Manchester
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BDN FOR THE WIN!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk | |
10-09-2014, 03:11 AM | #20 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: UK
Posts: 256
| Re: Methods, Treps and DW foams a no go?
So I have Method 105 with the Panther F400 foams and Voodoo U4 tyres and I had this problem. So I used gravity to overcome it using my knee to press them together for the first screw. Biomechanics at it's best! |
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