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Blue Monkey RC 09-02-2013 11:43 AM

IFS kit for Wraith
 
BMRC IFS Conversion for Axial Wraith



We provide everything you need to do the conversion in your living room. Uses parts from the Exo Terra Buggy and Traxxas bellcrank steering. More details here.


adamargue 09-02-2013 11:45 AM

That's a awesome idea guys. Great product!

666 09-02-2013 12:09 PM

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That is ****ing awesome!! Great work from Blue Monkey!!

"thumbsup""thumbsup"

WValtakis2 09-02-2013 12:10 PM

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Very nice. Will you be putting together an Axial parts list for those of us that don't have a donor exo? Do you know the cost for somebody starting with just a wraith?

~Chip

Harley 09-02-2013 12:15 PM

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Nice work sir! "thumbsup"

666 09-02-2013 12:19 PM

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I'm wondering, is it cheaper to buy the Exo parts individually or just buy the kit?

Harley 09-02-2013 12:22 PM

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Great Price too, I need one of these for sure. I just happened to get a new wraith and exo the other day!

EeePee 09-02-2013 12:23 PM

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That is very awesome! Nicely done!

666 09-02-2013 12:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EeePee (Post 4463207)
That is very awesome! Nicely done!

You should do something new and build one!

;-)

EeePee 09-02-2013 12:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 666 (Post 4463209)
You should do something new and build one!

Honestly, if I were to build something new, this would be it. But I've got more music and headphones to buy.

Again, nicely done Blue Monkey. "thumbsup""thumbsup"

Harley 09-02-2013 12:41 PM

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Kit purchased. 8)

Meatwad 09-02-2013 01:06 PM

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Wow, this makes me wanna change some plans. Great work BMRC "thumbsup"

briang 09-02-2013 01:13 PM

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this is a thing of beauty great job!!

racin707 09-02-2013 01:42 PM

Omg that's about good as bang brothers for com...... I feel the blood rushing...well thats awesome

Szczerba 09-02-2013 01:50 PM

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Yea buddy. Looks awesome! Great work.

STANG KILLA SS 09-02-2013 02:07 PM

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wow
hell yeah!

the DMG 09-02-2013 02:45 PM

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Very COOL product !!
great job BMRC "thumbsup"

i'll take two !


Quote:

Originally Posted by 666 (Post 4463200)
I'm wondering, is it cheaper to buy the Exo parts individually or just buy the kit?

its kind-a a toss up !
i personally had to beef up everything in mine to make me happy,
had to work great & have good durability !!

i replaced these stock EXO parts:
hubs - C's - swing arms - locker - upper links - HD steering linkage & drive shafts.

that still leaves the stock:
EXO case - kingpins - chassis arm mounts - a arm pivot pins - front bumper/trans shim - steering posts & bearings.

my thinking was just go ahead & get the HD aftermarket parts now.
when i knew i would be replacing them in the future any way.

not to say that the stock EXO parts will not work - they will !
just not for long

& I didn't like all the flex that was in the stock components - had to go !!

both ways will work fine just,
one will work better/last longer the than the other

buy a EXO kit for 150/200 $$
& have a OK rig !

or the aftermarket HD stuff & a few needed EXO stock parts for 150/200 $$
& have a Rock Stomper rig

hope this helps !

i am ready to build another IFS rig "thumbsup"

ROLANDROCKSHOP 09-02-2013 02:45 PM

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Great execution!

Looks like factory!

"thumbsup"

gsrcivic 09-02-2013 04:37 PM

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nice bmrc...post this right after I cut my exo 2 days ago lol...im gonna finish out this build and post a build thread then might buy this kit and do another one or to clean up the one I have now lol

Blue Monkey RC 09-03-2013 05:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WValtakis2 (Post 4463193)
Very nice. Will you be putting together an Axial parts list for those of us that don't have a donor exo? Do you know the cost for somebody starting with just a wraith?

~Chip

DMG put it nicely ^^. i am working on a spreadsheet for folks who want to buy all the parts individually. i hope to post that today. i've never posted a non-picture and i'm not a computer guy so i'm learning on the job.

Blue Monkey RC 09-03-2013 06:18 AM

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Spreadsheet:

http://www.virginia4x4.com/bmrc exo ...ist rev A.xlsx


this is a work in progress. if anyone is bored at work and wants to beef this up, be my guest!!!

scottanthony 09-03-2013 09:03 AM

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Looks good guys.. ! I like the trx idea of using proven parts and the mounting of the winch.. Only problem for me is, I have to find a donor wraith.... just to use this. Ordering now.

tcm glx 09-03-2013 10:21 AM

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I think I will take one as well, nice job Blue Monkey!

frdtrkguy 09-03-2013 10:51 AM

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Looks very well thought out. Now address the front axles. The stock exo stuff isn't up to the task.

the DMG 09-03-2013 12:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by frdtrkguy (Post 4464313)
Now address the front axles. The stock exo stuff isn't up to the task.

yep !!
the front locker will be the big issue for everyone.
as far as i know - there is not a locker being manufactured for the EXO yet !!
had to make mine.

one of our Rcc Vendor/locker manufacturers need to address this problem "thumbsup"

so far the MIP hybrids drive shafts have worked great on mine,
didn't even try the stock dog bones !

Ballistic17 09-03-2013 12:52 PM

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The locker for the Wraith works in the Exo diff case. (Axial Heavy Duty Differential Locker [AXI30500]) Just have to watch the drive cups because there is no way to put the e-clips on.

BENDER 09-03-2013 12:57 PM

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Nice looking kit guys!! "thumbsup"

For the front locker, go old school and fill that diff with JB Weld. That is what I did to my Wrexo conversion. 8)

frdtrkguy 09-03-2013 12:59 PM

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Yup check my build thread.. A vendor with skillz can make the required thru shaft so everyone can take advantage of the mip's. I used 1/4" chromo. A one piece locker with 6mm outputs would be sweet..

Gravebane525 09-03-2013 02:09 PM

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all the parts on the spreadsheet would cost $252.05 +shipping maybe. thats not counting the cvd dogbone optional set.

WValtakis2 09-03-2013 02:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravebane525 (Post 4464505)
all the parts on the spreadsheet would cost $252.05 +shipping maybe. thats not counting the cvd dogbone optional set.

Ouch... I guess getting a kit and selling the leftovers is feasible.

~Chip

the DMG 09-03-2013 02:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravebane525 (Post 4464505)
all the parts on the spreadsheet would cost $252.05 +shipping maybe. thats not counting the cvd dogbone optional set.

as my point before !
about the same $$ either way - stock EXO vers some stock/aftermarket parts ??

you can go the EXO kit way & just use the front end off of it,
But then U have a half of exo to try to use or sale off afterwards!

or take $$ that you would spend for a exo kit,
and use it for the needed stock parts & HD aftermarket products & have a killer rig !!

"IFS rigs are not cheap to build" ( the RIGHT way !! )

& you can't be too shy about spending $$ if you want a good working & dependable IFS rig !!

in my experience so far - with these rigs !

Gravebane525 09-03-2013 02:56 PM

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well I can;t see taking parts out to replace with better parts being the same price. I think in the end that way will cost you even more, but I think your right about it beign needed to do it right.

you may not NEED to buy everythign on that list either. BMRC had what seams like must be everything, right down to the axial stock screws needed(would never put them on a rig willingly).

in my case the exo kit might be the way to go because IF I did it I'd want the exo cage, or a mix of the two. I don;'t have the money to do it right, maybe in a few years if axial doesn't come out with a IFS rig. for now I'll keep trying to get my scx-10 set up the right way.

fourxfunk 09-03-2013 03:26 PM

How bout an Ifs kit for us scx guys?!

BC Racing 09-03-2013 05:15 PM

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"thumbsup""thumbsup"...Very nice!!

Let the rebuild begin, after the 14th of Sept that is....bahhhhh ;-)

gsrcivic 09-03-2013 05:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BENDER (Post 4464431)
Nice looking kit guys!! "thumbsup"

For the front locker, go old school and fill that diff with JB Weld. That is what I did to my Wrexo conversion. 8)

I thought about this but I used the 2 spider gears from the rear wedge on the opposite sides of the gears so theres a gear on all sides and it locks it up...ran it today for a test and tune did great now to up the power..ol jb might be in the future lol......and agreeing with dmg these are not cheap to build even if you save a few hrs with this bmrc kit theres still a lot of tuning to be done and these aren't for the faint of heart to build yall all know what I mean lol

frdtrkguy 09-03-2013 06:28 PM

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Locking the diff is the easy part. Finding shafts that will withstand big power, locked diff and sticky 2.2 tires is the challenge.

Chargerguy 09-04-2013 05:37 AM

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I can't get that spreadsheet to open, any suggestions? Says file type not supported..

Edit: had to dL an Excel viewer

gsrcivic 09-04-2013 05:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by frdtrkguy (Post 4464765)
Locking the diff is the easy part. Finding shafts that will withstand big power, locked diff and sticky 2.2 tires is the challenge.

Just mod some mips lol

Blue Monkey RC 09-04-2013 11:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fourxfunk (Post 4464585)
How bout an Ifs kit for us scx guys?!

funny you should mention. i'm working on this. i recently had horrible experience openly developing products for the VTH guys so i'll be working on this and product testing in private.

i'm not currently in a position to offer an estimated delivery date, estimated price or any other details.

Szczerba 09-04-2013 11:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue Monkey RC (Post 4465583)
funny you should mention. i'm working on this. i recently had horrible experience openly developing products for the VTH guys so i'll be working on this and product testing in private.

i'm not currently in a position to offer an estimated delivery date, estimated price or any other details.

Yes please. Here was my IFS SCX.
http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/axial...scx-build.html


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