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donhd04 07-23-2012 02:51 PM

shortest brushless can???? sensored
 
Anyone know what the shortest brushless motor can is. And i would like a good respectable well built motor also. I saw the new axial vanguard is 47mm long and the next shortest i could find is castle creations 1406 series at 49mm long can. Is the new axial vanguard the only option I have for something 47mm or smaller and i couldn't find anything from TEKIN either. Any help is appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

cartronicshn 07-23-2012 03:04 PM

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How about the og outrunners from holmes? Those are some of the smallest cans i have seen an they pack a punch, they run my súpers and break gears all the time:shock:

cartronicshn 07-23-2012 03:22 PM

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Sorry for wasting your time, i didnt read it is sensored you are looking at:oops:

Duuuuuuuude 07-23-2012 03:27 PM

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Neither the Vanguard or the CC motor is sensored...you're going to have to find better examples.

The sensor plug and harness come out of the back of the can (rear endbell, whatever) so you're going to have to account for that as well...

What is the application?

JohnRobHolmes 07-23-2012 03:28 PM

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I don't think the Axial or Castle motors are sensored. Pretty much all sensored "540" motors are a standard length right now, about 49 to 55mm long. The shortest I know of is my Stubby Revolver that will be available in small qty in about three weeks depending on customs.

donhd04 07-23-2012 06:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Duuuuuuuude (Post 3835632)
Neither the Vanguard or the CC motor is sensored...you're going to have to find better examples.

The sensor plug and harness come out of the back of the can (rear endbell, whatever) so you're going to have to account for that as well...

What is the application?

Ax10 tranny fastback II chassis.

donhd04 07-23-2012 06:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnRobHolmes (Post 3835633)
I don't think the Axial or Castle motors are sensored. Pretty much all sensored "540" motors are a standard length right now, about 49 to 55mm long. The shortest I know of is my Stubby Revolver that will be available in small qty in about three weeks depending on customs.

I need one about the size of yall's 35t brushed. Gotta be less than 47 mm in length to fit with the tranny. I can make a standard size 540 fit by cutting the frame a little but I don't want to hurt the integrity of the frame work either.

Duuuuuuuude 07-23-2012 06:20 PM

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Running dig or no? If not, flip the trans, trim the motor plate, and shove it back as far as it'll go. You might have room.

http://i50.tinypic.com/10oo2a8.jpg

majatra 07-23-2012 07:02 PM

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Team Powers Super Lite is 45mm long.
RC Explorer Company

JohnRobHolmes 07-23-2012 08:26 PM

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Cool little motor!

donhd04 07-24-2012 06:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Duuuuuuuude (Post 3835887)
Running dig or no? If not, flip the trans, trim the motor plate, and shove it back as far as it'll go. You might have room.

Naw, No dig on this one. I'm running rear steer on it for sure. Im not setting it up for comp rules as there aren't any comps around here for hundreds of miles and this thing is getting set up for major hill climbing consisting of slick rock and dirt. I'll try flippin the tranny around. Its definate I'll have to trim the motor plate too. Thanks for the idea though that may work pretty well. Just so Im clear, your not talking "mirroring" the tranny are you, just flipping it around backwards?.

Quote:

Originally Posted by majatra (Post 3835963)
Team Powers Super Lite is 45mm long.
RC Explorer Company

Thats a pretty cool little motor. Looks like they do a pretty good job of winning with them from all the pics on their website. Do you know anything about dependability of those?

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnRobHolmes (Post 3835633)
I don't think the Axial or Castle motors are sensored. Pretty much all sensored "540" motors are a standard length right now, about 49 to 55mm long. The shortest I know of is my Stubby Revolver that will be available in small qty in about three weeks depending on customs.

can you give me more info on the stubby revolver or is it on yall's website yet?
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnRobHolmes (Post 3836113)
Cool little motor!

I know yall are the KING of motors so whats yall's opinion on that TEAM POWER motor? know anything about it?

JohnRobHolmes 07-24-2012 06:32 AM

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I know nothing about the team power motor, it is probably just a short stack motor with a regular roar 540. Nothing crazy, and it won't produce as much power as a normal size motor.

Stubby- Holmes Hobbies / Holmes Bikes :: Motors :: Brushless Outrunners :: Holmes Revolver S Stubby

donhd04 07-24-2012 06:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnRobHolmes (Post 3836624)
I know nothing about the team power motor, it is probably just a short stack motor with a regular roar 540. Nothing crazy, and it won't produce as much power as a normal size motor.

Stubby- Holmes Hobbies / Holmes Bikes :: Motors :: Brushless Outrunners :: Holmes Revolver S Stubby

SWEEEET!!!! Thats exactly what i was looking for. Are you going to offer it with a higher KV rating? I was wanting to get around 2900-3300 kv or 13.5t-17.5t.

SEE I KNEW YALL WAS THE KING OF MOTORS!!

JohnRobHolmes 07-24-2012 06:52 AM

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First versions will be 3000kv and 2000kv. We can also wind it 1500 and 1000kv easily. Can't hit anything between 3000 and 2000kv without going to a Delta termination, which isn't so good with the sensors.

donhd04 07-24-2012 07:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnRobHolmes (Post 3836636)
First versions will be 3000kv and 2000kv. We can also wind it 1500 and 1000kv easily. Can't hit anything between 3000 and 2000kv without going to a Delta termination, which isn't so good with the sensors.

I really think either one will be perfect for what i need but Im leaning more towards the 3000kv for tire speed and torque. Am I correct in thinking that? You had suggested a 13.5T redline before and 3000kv should put me dead in the middle of 13.5t and 17.5t shouldn't it? Anything is going to be better than stock of course, its just a 20T axial motor.

JohnRobHolmes 07-24-2012 07:17 AM

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Yeah, should be about between the two winds of redline motors.

donhd04 07-24-2012 08:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnRobHolmes (Post 3836662)
Yeah, should be about between the two winds of redline motors.

Cool I'll start stalking your guys website and here to catch it. Do you recommend TEKIN RS esc or Castle mamba max esc to run it?

JohnRobHolmes 07-24-2012 09:03 AM

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Either works equally well.

majatra 07-24-2012 06:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by donhd04 (Post 3836619)
Thats a pretty cool little motor. Looks like they do a pretty good job of winning with them from all the pics on their website. Do you know anything about dependability of those?

I saw a used 17.5T RCtech a while back, so I googled it, read about it, and remembered it when i saw your post. That's about all I know of them, so sorry, I'm not much help except having read about them.
There is a Team Power thread on RCtech that is 11 pages long, but I never read past the first two pages. Those that have them claim they are smooth and powerful, better than Novaks and the Trinity Dou 3, but I am not making that claim.

I see my link crapped out on me too, but I'm glad you found it anyway.
Here's an ebay listing with the KV listed with the turns, if you are still interested.
Team Powers Super Lite Brushless Sensored Motor For 1/10 RC Car F1 Tamiya Mini | eBay
Good luck with your choice.

Duuuuuuuude 07-24-2012 07:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by donhd04 (Post 3836779)
Do you recommend TEKIN RS esc or Castle mamba max esc to run it?

Another option...

Brushlesshobbies.com LT4


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