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simon170 05-25-2013 12:54 PM

What do you do when a Hitec 7980 and Castle BEC Pro aren't enough?
 
As title really:cry: bought the best gear I could find, thinking it would do the job with ease on my big scale crawler, but it stalls out with ease. Need and even stronger steering setup.

Anyone got any ideas? I'm totally stumped:oops:

Thanks.

Charlie-III 05-25-2013 01:13 PM

Re: What do you do when a Hitec 7980 and Castle BEC Pro aren't enough?
 
What is the CC BEC set to?? If stock, it's under voltage for the 7980. Get a Castle Link & up the voltage."thumbsup""thumbsup"

Why do you say, "It's not enough"????

DRTMI 05-25-2013 01:35 PM

Re: What do you do when a Hitec 7980 and Castle BEC Pro aren't enough?
 
1/4 scale servo on a 3s.

Calderwood 05-25-2013 01:55 PM

Re: What do you do when a Hitec 7980 and Castle BEC Pro aren't enough?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie-III (Post 4336213)

Why do you say, "It's not enough"????

Quote:

Originally Posted by simon170 (Post 4336204)
it stalls out with ease.

Maybe?

Calderwood 05-25-2013 02:03 PM

Re: What do you do when a Hitec 7980 and Castle BEC Pro aren't enough?
 
You have as much torque as you are going to get in that size package. You can double up with another 7980 or you can look at the bigger options. Compare servos here: All RC Servos - Servo Database That link should have them organized by torque but if not just click on torque at the top.

Charlie-III 05-25-2013 02:09 PM

Re: What do you do when a Hitec 7980 and Castle BEC Pro aren't enough?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nigels_world (Post 4336270)
You have as much torque as you are going to get in that size package. You can double up with another 7980 or you can look at the bigger options. Compare servos here: All RC Servos - Servo Database That link should have them organized by torque but if not just click on torque at the top.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nigels_world (Post 4336264)
Maybe?

A 7980 will break a lot of stuff....thus my question.

I wanted to know why the OP thought it was underpowered. I was not asking your thoughts.

Frankly, if a single 7980 does not do it...there are many other issues....do you agree??

Sheesh, I have enough issues with a 7950 or a external powered BLS197(?) in a 2.2 rig.:roll:

BTW, a 7980 is already larger than most 2.2 rigs can handle "standard", if a 7980 is not enough (already making mount adjustments), why go even bigger???!!!

Calderwood 05-25-2013 03:02 PM

Re: What do you do when a Hitec 7980 and Castle BEC Pro aren't enough?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie-III (Post 4336271)
A 7980 will break a lot of stuff....thus my question.

I wanted to know why the OP thought it was underpowered. I was not asking your thoughts.

Frankly, if a single 7980 does not do it...there are many other issues....do you agree??

Sheesh, I have enough issues with a 7950 or a external powered BLS197(?) in a 2.2 rig.:roll:

BTW, a 7980 is already larger than most 2.2 rigs can handle "standard", if a 7980 is not enough (already making mount adjustments), why go even bigger???!!!

When he said "big scale crawler" I figured we weren't talking about a 2.2.

simon170 05-25-2013 03:33 PM

Re: What do you do when a Hitec 7980 and Castle BEC Pro aren't enough?
 
Hi guys, thanks for the replies :)

The CC BEC is set to 7.5volts, so hopefully it's getting enough juice.

Thanks for the link for all the different servos, I'll have a look through it and see if there's anything that might do the job.
I didn't want to go any bigger servo wise, but it's looking like I might not have any choice.

As far as the truck goes, it's got an 18" wheelbase, 40 series wheels and tires, 1/8 scale brushless system, Summit trans, Twinforce axles, solid body with exo cage....And weighs ALOT, lot 32.5lbs. All custom chassis etc, taken along time to build. It's nicknamed Heavy Duty.

fritzthefly 05-25-2013 04:04 PM

Re: What do you do when a Hitec 7980 and Castle BEC Pro aren't enough?
 
Buy a Hitec HS-1000SGT :mrgreen:
Torque @ 11,1 V : 84,0 kg
Torque @ 14,8 V : 110,0 kg

1r3land 05-25-2013 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simon170 (Post 4336342)
Hi guys, thanks for the replies :)

The CC BEC is set to 7.5volts, so hopefully it's getting enough juice.

Thanks for the link for all the different servos, I'll have a look through it and see if there's anything that might do the job.
I didn't want to go any bigger servo wise, but it's looking like I might not have any choice.

As far as the truck goes, it's got an 18" wheelbase, 40 series wheels and tires, 1/8 scale brushless system, Summit trans, Twinforce axles, solid body with exo cage....And weighs ALOT, lot 32.5lbs. All custom chassis etc, taken along time to build. It's nicknamed Heavy Duty.

Not trying to get off topic here, but id like to see pics of this thing!
And hope you find a servo to fit your needs. I'm not schooled on anything bigger than 7980..
Good luck !!

Meatwad 05-25-2013 04:08 PM

32+lbs?! :lmao: wow man, a couple 7980's per front wheel perhaps?

Postclanker 05-25-2013 07:30 PM

Re: What do you do when a Hitec 7980 and Castle BEC Pro aren't enough?
 
Really 32lbs ????

Pictures of that beast please........

Charlie-III 05-25-2013 07:30 PM

Re: What do you do when a Hitec 7980 and Castle BEC Pro aren't enough?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nigels_world (Post 4336318)
When he said "big scale crawler" I figured we weren't talking about a 2.2.

Based on a 32lb rig, neither one of us was close....:shock:

;-)8)

:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

OP, in my eyes, you're on your own on this one....sorry......

Natedog 05-25-2013 07:35 PM

Re: What do you do when a Hitec 7980 and Castle BEC Pro aren't enough?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DRTMI (Post 4336249)
1/4 scale servo on a 3s.

Yes,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"thu mbsup"

Norton 05-25-2013 07:42 PM

Re: What do you do when a Hitec 7980 and Castle BEC Pro aren't enough?
 
Pictures please.....

activethunderrc 05-25-2013 07:42 PM

Re: What do you do when a Hitec 7980 and Castle BEC Pro aren't enough?
 
you go big or go home.
Tonegawa Seiko SSPS-105 Servo Specifications and Reviews
5,277.0 oz-in

filotr14lsdude 05-25-2013 08:46 PM

Re: What do you do when a Hitec 7980 and Castle BEC Pro aren't enough?
 
How do you have your bec wired?

Do you directly power the servo?
So plug bec into servo + and - and signal to rx?

Or do you use the bec to power the rx then left over power goes to servo?

I run a 7980 on either end of my 1/8 crawler and use a bec for each servo. I run the bec straight to the servo. It's a lot better for getting most power. It's worth checking how you have it wired.

losikid 05-26-2013 12:42 AM

Re: What do you do when a Hitec 7980 and Castle BEC Pro aren't enough?
 
You might as well throw a hydraulic pump on there and go fullhydro steering at that weight :ror:

You can try a gear box

SPG400A-45 Standard Rotation

Duuuuuuuude 05-26-2013 01:18 AM

Re: What do you do when a Hitec 7980 and Castle BEC Pro aren't enough?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by losikid (Post 4336907)
You might as well throw a hydraulic pump on there and go fullhydro steering at that weight :ror:

Or go pull a rack and pinion setup from an old Pinto...

simon170 05-26-2013 05:22 AM

Re: What do you do when a Hitec 7980 and Castle BEC Pro aren't enough?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fritzthefly (Post 4336370)
Buy a Hitec HS-1000SGT :mrgreen:
Torque @ 11,1 V : 84,0 kg
Torque @ 14,8 V : 110,0 kg

Ohhhhh interesting! I'll look into those further, list price is though $429:shock: But I'll see how it goes. Thanks man"thumbsup"

Quote:

Originally Posted by activethunderrc (Post 4336595)

Big. You mean GIGANTIC!:lmao: Next time I wanna pull down a tower block I'll be all over that. Its mega!8)

Quote:

Originally Posted by filotr14lsdude (Post 4336670)
How do you have your bec wired?

Do you directly power the servo?
So plug bec into servo + and - and signal to rx?

Or do you use the bec to power the rx then left over power goes to servo?

I run a 7980 on either end of my 1/8 crawler and use a bec for each servo. I run the bec straight to the servo. It's a lot better for getting most power. It's worth checking how you have it wired.

The ESC powers the RX, the BEC has a its own feed and powers the 7980 on its own. Have I got this right?

Quote:

Originally Posted by losikid (Post 4336907)
You might as well throw a hydraulic pump on there and go fullhydro steering at that weight :ror:

You can try a gear box

SPG400A-45 Standard Rotation

I'll go get a gas axe and a welder"thumbsup" Thanks for the link on the gearbox, just about to click and have a look.

I'll sort out some pics for those who want them:)


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