09-17-2015, 09:51 AM | #1 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: PlacerCounty
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| Dynamic Mystery
RedCat rs10 4wd MOA, 390 motors. For changing wheels I have the car on a wood stand with all 4 wheels elevated about one inch. When I tighten the nut on a wheel, sometimes the electric driver I use will cause the wheel to spin. When that happens the wheels on the other axle will spin also! The other axle will spin in the same direction at about the same speed as the driven axle. How can that be? The only connections are the motor leads. These go through the esc that has the battery disconnected. What is causing the other axle to spin? |
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09-17-2015, 10:42 AM | #2 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Frog Lake AB, Canada
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| Re: Dynamic Mystery
That's funny! And interesting at the same time. Um, is it because electric motors generate power when you rotate them, and its sending power backwards through your ESC into your other motor on the other axle? I think I've read somewhere that sending power backwards through the FETs on an ESC can damage them ( no idea if its the same for brushed esc ), maybe you shouldn't let your motor,or tires spin while you have your drill hooked up to the tires. I think it does show you your motors are hooked up in the same direction. Last edited by Alexander_0_1; 09-17-2015 at 10:44 AM. |
09-17-2015, 04:22 PM | #3 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Grimcity, On
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| Re: Dynamic Mystery
Bro, your axles and trans are locked. Even on an open diff truck spinning a wheel causes other wheels to spin, if there is no resistance. Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk |
09-17-2015, 05:53 PM | #4 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: PlacerCounty
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| Re: Dynamic Mystery
No trans, the only connections are the motor leads. Whatever is happening has to be electrical, or voodoo. Last edited by P.A.Myers; 09-17-2015 at 05:59 PM. Reason: pix |
09-17-2015, 06:42 PM | #5 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Grimcity, On
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| Re: Dynamic Mystery
Probably induction issue then. Maybe shouldn't be using a drill/driver on an rc either, but that's up to you. Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk |
09-19-2015, 05:51 PM | #6 |
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| Re: Dynamic Mystery Great tool. Excellent torque reaction. Not actually a drill. |
09-19-2015, 06:28 PM | #7 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Oakridge
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09-19-2015, 07:38 PM | #8 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: under a rock and a hard place
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| Re: Dynamic Mystery
Your motor on the first axle is acting as a generator and sending a small amount of voltage to your other motor.
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09-19-2015, 08:25 PM | #9 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Grimcity, On
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| Re: Dynamic Mystery
Ya the thing is, you likely cannot achieve the same thing with a hand driver. I'm a little out of memory on this, but when you spin one motor with enough rpm, you induce a current. The backfed current is likely jumping the other motor. Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk |
09-19-2015, 08:32 PM | #10 |
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| Re: Dynamic Mystery
You can do it with your hand on a stock Clodbuster in 1985.
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09-24-2015, 07:04 AM | #11 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Detroit
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| Re: Dynamic Mystery
Some of the HV servos when moved fast enough can do the same, provide power back in.
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10-25-2015, 03:36 PM | #12 |
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| Re: Dynamic Mystery Happens with every servo and at any speed, not just the high voltage and the speed will dictate how much voltage goes back the the receiver. Turned slowly they barely register a volt (.1-.2v), turned enough you can get over 6 volts from one.
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