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rock_krawler · 01-30-2007, 05:13 PM

First off, is a z3025 too much motor for a 2.2 TLT? I would like to have both torque and a little wheel speed if that's possible. second, if this scenario works out, would an RC4WD R2 trans hold up with that motor?
Thanks

Reflection · 01-30-2007, 05:26 PM

You could build a 2.2 Twin Force. I run that motor,it would rip the TLT axles to shreads

rock_krawler · 01-30-2007, 05:35 PM

I'm wanting to stay with the scale-ish size of the TLT axles.

Reflection · 01-30-2007, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rock_krawler

I'm wanting to stay with the scale-ish size of the TLT axles.

You'll need allot less motor then

Mines rated at 2 horsepower

and it'll sling a 20 pound truck around like it's nothing.

hotwheels000 · 01-30-2007, 05:57 PM

I have heard that the 3013 is good in a tlt based rig,I have one on order but it hasnt arrived yet so I can not vouch for it

Devlin

rock_krawler · 01-30-2007, 06:21 PM

Thanks raptorman

hotwheels, I look forward to hearing about it. What esc are you going to use?

hotwheels000 · 01-30-2007, 08:49 PM

Mamba max per JRH recommendation, now I need to find a better lipo I dont think mine are going to cut it,Any suggestions????

rock_krawler · 01-30-2007, 09:30 PM

I couldn't make any battery suggestions, I'm new to this. I'm still in the early development stages.

sticksNstones · 01-30-2007, 09:45 PM

I will be running the 3025 in a 2.2 rig with K1 axles, Portals, R2 tranny, 2s3p 3300 mah maxamp lipo, and mamba max esc

I will have a 3013 as a back-up incase the 3025 is to much

If it will turn a 20 lb. truck around I wonder what it will do to my BMVii

I will post picks and let everyone know how RC4WD stuff holds up

rock_krawler · 01-30-2007, 10:05 PM

sticksNstones, do you have a thread for your build? That sounds like something I should definitely take a look at.

sticksNstones · 01-30-2007, 10:08 PM

It is being built right now by rockwerks and he should be done by weeks end. I will post pics when completed

JohnRobHolmes · 01-31-2007, 06:17 PM

I think everything I would add has been covered. I would suggest the z3013 for a tlt, but a 3025 could be used. An inexperienced user could trash parts like nothing with the 3025.

The r2 looks really beefy. I think it should hold up to the z3025 on smaller axles. Good lubrication would be very important

revin9k · 01-31-2007, 09:15 PM

the 3013 with a 8 cell 2/3a pack is all the power you could want! i just got my second one today

and i cant wait to see it power my bmv2.

rock_krawler · 01-31-2007, 11:01 PM

jrh- thanks for chiming in. I was hoping to hear from you, as you are the expert.

I don't see the mamba max on your site, are you just out of stock. I'd like to price a package deal for a motor and esc. Would a z3013 bee like a built small block versus a z3025 as a built big block? With the right gearing can I get low speed torque and then punch the throttle for some wheel speed?

Thanks everyone, I appreciate all the help and advise so far.

Reflection · 01-31-2007, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rock_krawler

Would a z3013 bee like a built small block versus a z3025 as a built big block?

The 3025-8 would be more like a CTD with all the goodies

ThinkTank · 01-31-2007, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raptorman57

The 3025-8 would be more like a CTD with all the goodies

Nah,More like Twin Turbo CTD

JohnRobHolmes · 02-01-2007, 12:04 AM

You can get a lot more wheelspeed with an outrunner and retain the torque for slower stuff, but there is a minimum speed that esc's can turn a non-sensored motor. Minimum speed for a mamba is about 200rpm on a 12 pole outrunner. Quark esc is about 80 rpm. You have to gear according to your driving style and voltage too.

hotwheels000 · 02-01-2007, 03:40 PM

Just installed the 3013 and went crawling, this motor works well. Cogging wasnt an issue and my lipo's seam to be up to par for the demand.I will try my 3 cell as I want a bit more wheel speed out of the r-2 trans.

Thanks JRH

sticksNstones · 02-01-2007, 03:52 PM

What lipo's are you running? mah and volts?

Quote:

Originally Posted by hotwheels000

Just installed the 3013 and went crawling, this motor works well. Cogging wasnt an issue and my lipo's seam to be up to par for the demand.I will try my 3 cell as I want a bit more wheel speed out of the r-2 trans.

Thanks JRH

01-30-2007, 05:13 PM	#1
rock_krawler Rock Stacker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Clovis Posts: 78	A couple brushless ?s First off, is a z3025 too much motor for a 2.2 TLT? I would like to have both torque and a little wheel speed if that's possible. second, if this scenario works out, would an RC4WD R2 trans hold up with that motor? Thanks

01-30-2007, 09:45 PM	#9
sticksNstones Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Flagstaff Posts: 181	I will be running the 3025 in a 2.2 rig with K1 axles, Portals, R2 tranny, 2s3p 3300 mah maxamp lipo, and mamba max esc I will have a 3013 as a back-up incase the 3025 is to much If it will turn a 20 lb. truck around I wonder what it will do to my BMVii I will post picks and let everyone know how RC4WD stuff holds up Last edited by sticksNstones; 01-30-2007 at 09:48 PM.

01-30-2007, 05:26 PM	#2
Reflection TEAM MODERATOR Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tennessee Posts: 10,855	You could build a 2.2 Twin Force. I run that motor,it would rip the TLT axles to shreads

01-30-2007, 05:35 PM	#3
rock_krawler Rock Stacker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Clovis Posts: 78	I'm wanting to stay with the scale-ish size of the TLT axles.

01-30-2007, 05:57 PM	#5
hotwheels000 I wanna be Dave Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: under a rock and a hard place Posts: 5,443	I have heard that the 3013 is good in a tlt based rig,I have one on order but it hasnt arrived yet so I can not vouch for it Devlin

01-30-2007, 06:21 PM	#6
rock_krawler Rock Stacker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Clovis Posts: 78	Thanks raptorman hotwheels, I look forward to hearing about it. What esc are you going to use?

01-30-2007, 08:49 PM	#7
hotwheels000 I wanna be Dave Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: under a rock and a hard place Posts: 5,443	Mamba max per JRH recommendation, now I need to find a better lipo I dont think mine are going to cut it,Any suggestions????

01-30-2007, 09:30 PM	#8
rock_krawler Rock Stacker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Clovis Posts: 78	I couldn't make any battery suggestions, I'm new to this. I'm still in the early development stages.

01-30-2007, 10:05 PM	#10
rock_krawler Rock Stacker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Clovis Posts: 78	sticksNstones, do you have a thread for your build? That sounds like something I should definitely take a look at.

01-30-2007, 10:08 PM	#11
sticksNstones Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Flagstaff Posts: 181	It is being built right now by rockwerks and he should be done by weeks end. I will post pics when completed

01-31-2007, 06:17 PM	#12
JohnRobHolmes owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down! Posts: 20,290	I think everything I would add has been covered. I would suggest the z3013 for a tlt, but a 3025 could be used. An inexperienced user could trash parts like nothing with the 3025. The r2 looks really beefy. I think it should hold up to the z3025 on smaller axles. Good lubrication would be very important

01-31-2007, 09:15 PM	#13
revin9k Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Lexington Park Posts: 420	the 3013 with a 8 cell 2/3a pack is all the power you could want! i just got my second one today and i cant wait to see it power my bmv2.

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01-31-2007, 11:01 PM	#14
rock_krawler Rock Stacker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Clovis Posts: 78	jrh- thanks for chiming in. I was hoping to hear from you, as you are the expert. I don't see the mamba max on your site, are you just out of stock. I'd like to price a package deal for a motor and esc. Would a z3013 bee like a built small block versus a z3025 as a built big block? With the right gearing can I get low speed torque and then punch the throttle for some wheel speed? Thanks everyone, I appreciate all the help and advise so far.

02-01-2007, 12:04 AM	#17
JohnRobHolmes owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down! Posts: 20,290	You can get a lot more wheelspeed with an outrunner and retain the torque for slower stuff, but there is a minimum speed that esc's can turn a non-sensored motor. Minimum speed for a mamba is about 200rpm on a 12 pole outrunner. Quark esc is about 80 rpm. You have to gear according to your driving style and voltage too.

02-01-2007, 03:40 PM	#18
hotwheels000 I wanna be Dave Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: under a rock and a hard place Posts: 5,443	Just installed the 3013 and went crawling, this motor works well. Cogging wasnt an issue and my lipo's seam to be up to par for the demand.I will try my 3 cell as I want a bit more wheel speed out of the r-2 trans. Thanks JRH

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