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ProfitOfDoom 01-30-2019 10:01 PM

Recommend me a motor for a wraith?
 
I have a meetup in a month or so, and havent messes with my rc's in awhile and long story short, im gonna need a new motor.

I currently have a CC older sidewinder like a V2,and a old titan traxxas motor. Sounds like the spot is mostly woods and trails and not so much technical crawling,So was looking to get it a bit faster,Thinking like a 17T?

Im not opposed to a new esc/motor combo, Like the sound of the axe set up.

Any suggestions is appreciated!

MasteroFlego 01-30-2019 10:39 PM

Re: Recommend me a motor for a wraith?
 
Castle mamba x and your choice of a puller pro or a Revolver.

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mewalsh100 01-31-2019 11:07 AM

Re: Recommend me a motor for a wraith?
 
What's your budget? Do you want brushed or brushless?

I'd 2nd MasteroFlego's choice. Mamba-X and a HH Puller Pro. I run the 3500KV and it's simply awesome. Great low speed crawling resolution (sensored), and phenomenal wheel speed. I also run a 1800KV Revolver in another Wraith Based Crawler I built. It's also a phenomenal motor with its own unique characteristics. As a "do all" set up, trailing, crawling, and overall wheelspeed, I'd give the nod to the Puller Pro. If I were more focused on Crawling, I'd give the nod to the Revolver.

if you want to stay brushed, it's hard to beat a HH 13T Crawlmaster. It's a bit pricey for a brushed motor, but it's a damn good brushed motor. It will run through brushes fairly quickly though. For a more budget friendly brushed motor, I'd consider the HH Torquemaster series.

The other thing to consider is your gear selection. Spur/Pinion. 5.2:1 to 6.0:1 seems to be the sweet spot for Wraiths IMHO."thumbsup"

Ditchrat 01-31-2019 11:22 AM

Re: Recommend me a motor for a wraith?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MasteroFlego (Post 5906362)
Castle mamba x and your choice of a puller pro or a Revolver.

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Even a cheap Chinese sensored motor runs great on a mamba X

WHITE-TRASH 01-31-2019 11:35 AM

Re: Recommend me a motor for a wraith?
 
What batteries do you use?

DukeMinnix 01-31-2019 12:40 PM

Re: Recommend me a motor for a wraith?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ditchrat (Post 5906508)
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Even a cheap Chinese sensored motor runs great on a mamba X

truth

tenshock 1750 butter smooth on the Mamba X

Jim85IROC 01-31-2019 01:11 PM

Re: Recommend me a motor for a wraith?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ditchrat (Post 5906508)
"thumbsup"


Even a cheap Chinese sensored motor runs great on a mamba X

Yup. I run the Hobbystar Pro4 sensored motor in my Yeti and I really like it. I'm thinking about getting another one to replace the Castle Slate in my Bomber.

ProfitOfDoom 01-31-2019 01:35 PM

Re: Recommend me a motor for a wraith?
 
I been running 3s packs in my wraith..Id like the sensored but afraid Id ruin it if I find the water. Mamba x still use that old style castle link system with the pc? Or they have a new way to program it?

MasteroFlego 01-31-2019 01:55 PM

Re: Recommend me a motor for a wraith?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ProfitOfDoom (Post 5906566)
I been running 3s packs in my wraith..Id like the sensored but afraid Id ruin it if I find the water. Mamba x still use that old style castle link system with the pc? Or they have a new way to program it?

You can get Castle's B link module and program it using that. If you go with the Mamba X and the Revolver you can run them on 4s, which would give you smooth startup and good wheel speed, sensorless and completely waterproof.

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WHITE-TRASH 01-31-2019 01:58 PM

Re: Recommend me a motor for a wraith?
 
X still uses the same link to program.

The slate line of motors are fine in wet environments, I run a 2850 on an X and go snow bashing without issues

ProfitOfDoom 02-05-2019 05:53 PM

Re: Recommend me a motor for a wraith?
 
Im going to order the Mamba X,Was looking at motors and alot of them are like $150,,cant really go that much at the moment. Id like to have the esc and motor for $200 or less. Looks like the cheapest I seen the mamba x was $125,,So and good sensored motors for $75 or less? Im thinking I want like a 2800kv... Or am I just better off getting the mamba x combo with slate motor for $209? Also if you know of any good deals anywhere or coupons let me know,Thanks!

durok 02-05-2019 06:05 PM

Re: Recommend me a motor for a wraith?
 
Right here:

https://holmeshobbies.com/motors/bru...ler-motor.html

2700kv, waterproofed, ready to rock, race, & crawl...

More than meets your budget, too!

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ProfitOfDoom 02-05-2019 09:39 PM

Re: Recommend me a motor for a wraith?
 
Thats a good choice..I also see a hobbystar pro 4 that is four pole instead of two pole for the same price, Would you be able to tell a difference?

Voodoobrew 02-05-2019 09:45 PM

Re: Recommend me a motor for a wraith?
 
Nobody but the original poster has mentioned the axe set up, I have the hobbywing axe 2300 KV and love it, for crawling I wouldn't use it for racing or bashing though, it's not really a Punchy combo. For bashing a racing I would stick with the Mamba X and I'm partial to the puller Pro Motors.

JohnRobHolmes 02-05-2019 10:02 PM

Re: Recommend me a motor for a wraith?
 
I have used the trackstar crawler motors now out of curiosity. I cannot report "good" startup or cool running. It jumps to life and has a rather high idle current. They did seemingly nothing to refine the startup compared to the other trackstars.


I developed the Puller PRo in the wraith. It's a powerful and cool running beast with extremely refined startup. The trailmaster also does extremely well for the price, starts smooth and runs cool. Smoother and cooler than the trackstar 4 poles, ha...

ProfitOfDoom 02-09-2019 03:00 PM

Re: Recommend me a motor for a wraith?
 
Well I pulled the trigger on a mamba x and HH Puller pro 2700kv...pretty sure im still running stock gearing 20/80. I run 3s..what gearing would you recommend..looking for decent speed and decent crawling..Thanks!

JohnRobHolmes 02-09-2019 03:10 PM

Re: Recommend me a motor for a wraith?
 
I run stock gearing on my personal rig with 3s and it’s a perfect mix of haul ass and crawling. You get the standard, not the Stubby?

Thanks for the support, much appreciated!

ProfitOfDoom 02-09-2019 03:36 PM

Re: Recommend me a motor for a wraith?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnRobHolmes (Post 5909045)
I run stock gearing on my personal rig with 3s and it’s a perfect mix of haul ass and crawling. You get the standard, not the Stubby?

Thanks for the support, much appreciated!

Great to hear!...Yea I got the standard

TheLetterJ 02-25-2019 02:07 AM

Re: Recommend me a motor for a wraith?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnRobHolmes (Post 5909045)
I run stock gearing on my personal rig with 3s and it’s a perfect mix of haul ass and crawling. You get the standard, not the Stubby?

Thanks for the support, much appreciated!

Do you think the 2700kv Stubby would be sufficent power for a Wraith that is spot on 8lbs? I'm using a Mamba Micro X ESC, 3s, and 51.4:1 overall gearing (58/11 spur/pinion, 2.6 trans, 3.75/ar44 rear axle) I've put a couple packs through my 1800kv Revolver now and while it drives well, I think I might be looking for something different. The temps of my motor and esc have not gone over 130° so I was hoping it could pull more gearing. Making the leap to a higher geared trans (1.8:1, for a final drive of 35.5) gave the top end I was after, but cogged more than I'd care for when crawling the technical stuff. I'm thinking that the 2700kv stubby would allow me to stay geared down, give a broader rpm range, without overwhelming my Micro X esc? How does start up compare between the 2700 PP stubby and the 1800 Revolver?

JohnRobHolmes 02-25-2019 09:19 AM

Re: Recommend me a motor for a wraith?
 
The stubby is just as smooth as the revolver. That sounds like a good choice for what you want. Just watch the heat on your eSC in particular.


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