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jcboof · 01-20-2012, 06:31 AM

Is it possible to use the ax10 8* chubs and knuckles on a berg with axial 300s??

Anyone done it??

Monstergt · 01-20-2012, 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcboof

Is it possible to use the ax10 8* chubs and knuckles on a berg with axial 300s??

Anyone done it??

Sure is just make sure you have axial 300 stubs.

TURBOFEST · 01-20-2012, 06:53 AM

I did it to mine. It works very well if your into the angled kingpin thing. I didnt love it and went back to vertical kingpin axial knuckles.

binaryterror · 01-20-2012, 07:10 AM

Angled king pins are just not what you want Jesse.

The 8* advantage

jcboof · 01-20-2012, 07:23 AM

Thanks for the responses guys. I'm wanting to get the 0 Ackerman knuckles and I have the opportunity to try out the 8* knuckles. I was hesitant at pulling the trigger due to how well the bergs steering works on its own.

I guess since a few of you have had less than desirable results. I'll just stick to the regular 0 Ackerman knuckles instead of the 8*

Thanks!

Monstergt · 01-20-2012, 07:42 AM

Its all in what you get use to. I had both on mine. I know of several in state that run the 8* and a couple that dont. Its all your preference.

ittybitty · 01-20-2012, 10:44 AM

I really like mine...and I haven't seen many drivers switching to XR's looking for a vertical kingpin setup...

I will say it does involve a learning curve. They don' t react the same as the vertical king pins, and do require some weight in the wheels to really work well. Without some...like 1oz...they wouldn't allow my rig to dig around quickly or dig uphill on a side hill. The theory behind the inclined kingpins is solid though...

Waiting Dragon · 01-20-2012, 06:26 PM

I like my 8* set up, it is just something you have to be willing to play with, meaning tuning so your truck will be able to handle a wider variety of terrain.

Harvo · 01-20-2012, 06:39 PM

I weally weally wuv my 8* knuckles and chubs on my berg with CCD tubes

jcboof · 01-21-2012, 01:57 PM

Well, I decided to get a set of them. A member here had offered me a set from my Wanted ad for the 0 Ackerman knuckles.

I figured that the 8* stuff will work better for people running a wider offset wheel, and since I'm now running a slightly wider setup in front than I had been previously I could possibly benefit from it.

Once I get them I'll put them through the paces and let you know my thoughts on the setup.

I'm planning on running the same caster angle on both the 8* kingpin and 0* kingpin setups to really compare apples to apples. Then I will start tuning out a bit of caster in the 8* setup to see how it does.

Too much caster sounds like the reason that some people don't like the 8* setups.

JeremyH · 01-23-2012, 05:51 PM

I really like the 8* knucks on my berg. I really think that the issue most have with it has to do with knuckle weight placement. The bigron weights and 8* combo doesnt seem (at least, on my truck) to have any of the problems mentioned....

BuckImod · 01-23-2012, 06:41 PM

I am running them on my Berg with the VP Knuckle Weights. I really wish I had a set of bigron's weight system. Too bad he stopped making them. My truck has been working pretty good with them so far,but I've only ran at one venue so far.

picklewagon · 03-29-2014, 04:42 PM

Bringing up an old thread here, but does anyone have a good caster starting point for 8* knuckles???

Harvo · 03-29-2014, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by picklewagon

Bringing up an old thread here, but does anyone have a good caster starting point for 8* knuckles???

AX10 8 degree knuckles and chubs if you can find them.

Eric Dlux makes knuckles to fit any Chub and they are flippable from 8 degree to non 8 degree.

ax10tn · 03-29-2014, 05:36 PM

I love my 8* knuckles . If you get with D_Lux and and get his knuckles you can run 8* or non 8* all in the same knuckle with the option for weighted slugs and weight rings .

ax10tn · 03-29-2014, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harvo

AX10 8 degree knuckles and chubs if you can find them.

Eric Dlux makes knuckles to fit any Chub and they are flippable from 8 degree to non 8 degree.

You must have been writing this as I was ....

picklewagon · 03-29-2014, 05:49 PM

I have Dlux knuckles, the question was about caster.

J-Money · 03-29-2014, 06:14 PM

This is how "i" set caster first clock your axle. Now zero degree will be parallel from your flat work surface,rotate your knuckle in the direction of desired degree
I would try 20* positive first I use 0* knuckles and my caster is set at 35*.I also agree dlux knuckles are the best. Hope this helps

picklewagon · 03-29-2014, 08:43 PM

That really does help, thanks!

01-20-2012, 06:31 AM	#1
jcboof I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: I miss Rowdy Posts: 2,238	*8 knuckle mod on berg with ax10 8* parts** Is it possible to use the ax10 8* chubs and knuckles on a berg with axial 300s?? Anyone done it??

01-20-2012, 06:53 AM	#3
TURBOFEST I wanna be Dave Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: JERSEY BOONDOCKS Posts: 3,360	*Re: 8 knuckle mod on berg with ax10 8* parts** I did it to mine. It works very well if your into the angled kingpin thing. I didnt love it and went back to vertical kingpin axial knuckles.

01-20-2012, 07:10 AM	#4
binaryterror I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Detroit Posts: 3,583	*Re: 8 knuckle mod on berg with ax10 8* parts** Angled king pins are just not what you want Jesse. The 8* advantage Last edited by binaryterror; 01-20-2012 at 07:22 AM.

01-20-2012, 07:23 AM	#5
jcboof I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: I miss Rowdy Posts: 2,238	*Re: 8 knuckle mod on berg with ax10 8* parts** Thanks for the responses guys. I'm wanting to get the 0 Ackerman knuckles and I have the opportunity to try out the 8* knuckles. I was hesitant at pulling the trigger due to how well the bergs steering works on its own. I guess since a few of you have had less than desirable results. I'll just stick to the regular 0 Ackerman knuckles instead of the 8* Thanks!

01-20-2012, 07:42 AM	#6
Monstergt Rock Crawler Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: SENECA Posts: 811	*Re: 8 knuckle mod on berg with ax10 8* parts** Its all in what you get use to. I had both on mine. I know of several in state that run the 8* and a couple that dont. Its all your preference.

01-20-2012, 10:44 AM	#7
ittybitty I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sumter Posts: 6,141	*Re: 8 knuckle mod on berg with ax10 8* parts** I really like mine...and I haven't seen many drivers switching to XR's looking for a vertical kingpin setup... I will say it does involve a learning curve. They don' t react the same as the vertical king pins, and do require some weight in the wheels to really work well. Without some...like 1oz...they wouldn't allow my rig to dig around quickly or dig uphill on a side hill. The theory behind the inclined kingpins is solid though... Last edited by ittybitty; 01-20-2012 at 10:50 AM.

01-20-2012, 06:26 PM	#8
Waiting Dragon RCC Addict Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: AT THE DRAGON'S LAIR Posts: 1,319	*Re: 8 knuckle mod on berg with ax10 8* parts** I like my 8* set up, it is just something you have to be willing to play with, meaning tuning so your truck will be able to handle a wider variety of terrain.

01-20-2012, 06:39 PM	#9
Harvo I wanna be Dave Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: In the Dark Edges of your Mind Posts: 6,386	*Re: 8 knuckle mod on berg with ax10 8* parts** I weally weally wuv my 8* knuckles and chubs on my berg with CCD tubes

01-21-2012, 01:57 PM	#10
jcboof I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: I miss Rowdy Posts: 2,238	*Re: 8 knuckle mod on berg with ax10 8* parts** Well, I decided to get a set of them. A member here had offered me a set from my Wanted ad for the 0 Ackerman knuckles. I figured that the 8* stuff will work better for people running a wider offset wheel, and since I'm now running a slightly wider setup in front than I had been previously I could possibly benefit from it. Once I get them I'll put them through the paces and let you know my thoughts on the setup. I'm planning on running the same caster angle on both the 8* kingpin and 0* kingpin setups to really compare apples to apples. Then I will start tuning out a bit of caster in the 8* setup to see how it does. Too much caster sounds like the reason that some people don't like the 8* setups.

01-23-2012, 05:51 PM	#11
JeremyH I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 16,952	*Re: 8 knuckle mod on berg with ax10 8* parts** I really like the 8* knucks on my berg. I really think that the issue most have with it has to do with knuckle weight placement. The bigron weights and 8* combo doesnt seem (at least, on my truck) to have any of the problems mentioned....

01-23-2012, 06:41 PM	#12
BuckImod Rock Crawler Join Date: May 2009 Location: Bellaire Posts: 743	*Re: 8 knuckle mod on berg with ax10 8* parts** I am running them on my Berg with the VP Knuckle Weights. I really wish I had a set of bigron's weight system. Too bad he stopped making them. My truck has been working pretty good with them so far,but I've only ran at one venue so far.

03-29-2014, 04:42 PM	#13
picklewagon Rock Crawler Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: SF Posts: 604	*Re: 8 knuckle mod on berg with ax10 8* parts** Bringing up an old thread here, but does anyone have a good caster starting point for 8* knuckles???

03-29-2014, 05:36 PM	#15
ax10tn RCC Addict Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: cleveland,Tn Posts: 1,331	*Re: 8 knuckle mod on berg with ax10 8* parts** I love my 8* knuckles . If you get with D_Lux and and get his knuckles you can run 8* or non 8* all in the same knuckle with the option for weighted slugs and weight rings .

03-29-2014, 05:49 PM	#17
picklewagon Rock Crawler Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: SF Posts: 604	*Re: 8 knuckle mod on berg with ax10 8* parts** I have Dlux knuckles, the question was about caster.

03-29-2014, 06:14 PM	#18
J-Money Pebble Pounder Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: underground Posts: 177	*Re: 8 knuckle mod on berg with ax10 8* parts** This is how "i" set caster first clock your axle. Now zero degree will be parallel from your flat work surface,rotate your knuckle in the direction of desired degree I would try 20* positive first I use 0* knuckles and my caster is set at 35*.I also agree dlux knuckles are the best. Hope this helps

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