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Dezertdirt 06-27-2017 10:21 PM

A few questions about superlites
 
Are the superlites worth the money? Anyone disappointed in them? Do loaded dice make a big difference? Will Dlux brass knuckles provide enough weight? Anyone ever break an axle? Does the narrow width cause them to be unstable? What width hubs do all of you run? How hard is it to tune your rig to work well with these axles? I'm really debating between superlites and the B2 front with KR4 rear. Thanks all.

tapped-out 06-27-2017 10:35 PM

Re: A few questions about superlites
 
Building a set of Dlux super lite berg axles right now.
Besides the builder (myself) the build is going very well.
Watch video when/if you build a set super lite axles it will help you a lot.
I'm almost done with the axles.. and I have confidence that I am going to like the axles. Until I get a couple comps under the axles can't really tell you which way to go.

I like my berg with the modified stock axles and hope it gets even better with my new axles. I'd pick berg over bully axles.

stubs179 06-27-2017 11:20 PM

Re: A few questions about superlites
 
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Originally Posted by Dezertdirt (Post 5722539)
Are the superlites worth the money? Yes. Anyone disappointed in them? Do loaded dice make a big difference? Loaded dice got their name because that's how they make your car handle, like a loaded die. They are awesome. . Will Dlux brass knuckles provide enough weight? Anyone ever break an axle? Not that I know of, but there are people that can break anything. Haha. Does the narrow width cause them to be unstable? . They are the same width as a stock berg. What width hubs do all of you run? How hard is it to tune your rig to work well with these axles? If your worried about setup, get the Bountyhunter chassis with the axles. It's a fool proof setup that's won some big comps. I'm really debating between superlites and the B2 front with KR4 rear. Thanks all.

Superlites axles are strong, lite and the performance it top notch. There isn't a better axle out right now. If you can afford superlites with SAF gears, there isn't really another option. It's like debating between Shannon Cambels KOH buggy and your neighbors '85 Toyota with a SAS. Ya, they are both for crawling but...?

As for the Loaded Dice, I think the best testimony for them was my girlfriend. She had never seen a crawler before and I took her to a comp. After we left she asked me why when the cars flipped over that mine always landed on the wheels and everyone else's always landed on the roof. But when your in a comp and you really need it to land on its wheels, thats the time it will still land on the freaking roof! Ugh

filotr14lsdude 06-28-2017 04:53 AM

Re: A few questions about superlites
 
I used to run superlites,
However I went back normal bergs and I couldn't be happier with swapping back.
My set had heaps of small frustrating issues that I couldn't stand anymore.

I kept destroying bearings. Longest i had bearings last was like 3 months and shortest was 2 battery's. this was only ever on the rear axle. I tried a few different brands. Tried different centers Delrin and 3D printed, I even machined up my own spacers to reduce any flex in the casing. I had no reliability so wasn't going to waste the money on buying the alloy centers.

Sanded the cf plates to remove any high points, which there was a few small ones around the bearing pockets.
The rear long tube didn't just bolt on and line up, I had to drill it out so it didn't rub on rear axle.
My biggest issue I had was the front long tube was really flexy near the flange. In a bind you could see tube move.

I wasn't a fan of the overall width of the axles, for the width I like to run,
You end up running way to much scrub, so the rear end of the car moves around a heap while hanging from either front wheel. Also didn't like how much the wheel was behind the axle center line when at full lock.

The only thing i did like was the 8mm stubs meant no more loose wheel nuts. I like the long front gearbox and short rear. This allowed more room to run a bigger servo and gave better motor clearance in the rear.

I know a bunch won't agree with me on the above points.
However I'm just expressing my disappointing experiences with these axles.

CyberFox 06-28-2017 06:13 AM

Re: A few questions about superlites
 
what is B2 and KR4 axles ? :|

I just ordered non superlite dlux axles, I hope I'll be happy with it :shock::)

stubs179 06-28-2017 07:55 AM

Re: A few questions about superlites
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by filotr14lsdude (Post 5722581)
I used to run superlites,
However I went back normal bergs and I couldn't be happier with swapping back.
My set had heaps of small frustrating issues that I couldn't stand anymore.

I kept destroying bearings.

I wasn't a fan of the overall width of the axles, for the width I like to run,
I'm just expressing my disappointing experiences with these axles.

That's crazy to hear. I have probably the second set ever made with the original bearings and have never had a problem. And I drive my car a lot more than the average person.

Dezertdirt 07-05-2017 10:54 PM

Re: A few questions about superlites
 
Will Holmes 540 can motors be too heavy on these axles?

winnerone23 08-22-2017 07:33 PM

Re: A few questions about superlites
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stubs179 (Post 5722617)
That's crazy to hear. I have probably the second set ever made with the original bearings and have never had a problem. And I drive my car a lot more than the average person.

I'm right there with ya! I haven't had any issues with my axles and I rock the shit out of them!
Even if/when I have heard of issues.. a simple PM to the man, gets almost all things taken care of!
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezertdirt (Post 5725070)
Will Holmes 540 can motors be too heavy on these axles?

Absolutely Not!

tapped-out 08-22-2017 08:33 PM

Re: A few questions about superlites
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezertdirt (Post 5725070)
Will Holmes 540 can motors be too heavy on these axles?


I'm running 16t 540 HH crawlmaster motors"thumbsup"

filotr14lsdude 08-22-2017 08:57 PM

Re: A few questions about superlites
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by winnerone23 (Post 5740913)
I'm right there with ya! I haven't had any issues with my axles and I rock the shit out of them!
Even if/when I have heard of issues.. a simple PM to the man, gets almost all things taken care of!

After numerous PMs in talking about possible issues/cause he basically gave up and said at the end of the day, it's the builders fault for incorrect assembly.

Well interesting enough this is true. You have to assemble things correctly for things to work correctly. However what do you do when original manufacture has terrible tolerancing on holes and bearing pocket locations and they don't line up side to side no matter what you do..

Is this the builders fault for incorrect assembly or manufacturer fault. Worst part is when they can't own up to there mistakes.


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