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eHzCrawlers 07-25-2008 01:01 PM

JConcepts Rock Cross Coming to eXtreme Hobby Zone 8/23/08
 
August 23, 2008 will debut Rock Cross.

In conjuction with JConcepts & RC Monster Motorsports, eXtreme Hobby Zone will host the first Rock Cross Competition.

We will have a new course set-up for this new form of Rock Crawling. 3 trucks line up and race againts each other through a rock/dirt race course. AMB style timing system provided by JConcepts. Axial AX10's with 13.5 (27 turn) stock motors will be the main chassis but the competion is open to any solid axle vehicle. Rock Cross combines the technical aspect of rock crawling with the speed and competition of offroad racing.

More info to come...

eXtreme Hobby Zone has Covered pits with plenty of power, large oak trees provide complete shade for the track. Rock Crawler Course, Rock Cross and Dirt Oval Racing.

eXtreme Hobby Zone is located in Winter Haven, FL.

Address is 230 Avenue C SW, Winter Haven, FL 33880. 863-229-1172.

www.eXtremeHobbyZone
www.rcmonstermotorsports.com
www.jconcepts.net

Lushtrucker 07-26-2008 01:52 PM

this could be fun, any entrance fees or anything?
any motor turn limits?

eHzCrawlers 07-26-2008 10:11 PM

Quote:

this could be fun, any entrance fees or anything? any motor turn limits?
Working out the final details this weekend, hope to have a draft of the rules and any other info posted here and/or the competition page as soon as it comes in. Course is looking to be pretty cool so far, I'll post pics of the track and take any suggestions as we are still in the building stages of the new course layout. We are also keeping a nice pile of rocks so free crawl will always be available during regular business hours and during the 8/23 event.

fishnstash 07-27-2008 06:10 AM

Hey Rich and craig whats up guys,team syndicate will try to make that one.

eHzCrawlers 07-27-2008 10:47 AM

Good to hear from you Steve, would like to see you guys down here racing again, give some of the local boys more competition. :mrgreen:

eHzCrawlers 07-28-2008 10:19 PM

Here are pics and drawings of the track layout... I ran the really rough layout today with my slightly modded AX10. I used stock gearing (kit version) an Integy 27 Turn Motor and a basic cheap Dynamite 7.2v 1500mah battery not fully charged and on top (truck flipped a few times). Truck ran quick and was alot more nimble than I thought it would be. I got 3 strong laps (course is 165' center line, 5' wide lanes with parts that narrow to 3' and some open to 10') did not time them. The truck turned better on the loose dirt then I thought it would, climbed better than I thought. Real fun to drive, ballz out over the rough terrain, maybe 8-10 mph on the open straight aways but still had some slow precise climbing abilities. I will run a stronger battery at a lower postition for better handling and run time.

Course runs clockwise starting with a quick burst quickly narrowing to 3' wide S turn up the hill over the rocks, up to 3 different lines through the rocks, slow crawling for 8' or so, down the hill to a short straight away, quick burst of speed to a rocky hill, either jumping or slow climbing depending on your line. Down a small slope slanted left to a hairpin turn up hill across a rock ledge, if you don't fall over it will open up to another short straight away back over the rocky hill down another straight away to the finish line.
http://extremehobbyzone.com/Quicksta...osslayout1.jpg


This picture was taken on first day of build, a lot of work still needs to be done but we'll be ready...
http://extremehobbyzone.com/Quicksta...y1ofbuild1.JPG



Also check the rules Fred Reep with www.rcmonstermotorsports.com has for the competition coming up 8/23/08 by visiting his website.


2.2 class will have a 13.5 (27 turn) motor limit.
Entry fees are $15 for first truck, $10 for each additional.
Trophies and more prizes to be announced soon.

Sign up and more info coming soon...

Questions? Comments? Interest?

------------------------------------

Rich Muller
Owner
eXtremeHobbyZone.com
eHzRacing.com

Lushtrucker 07-29-2008 06:26 PM

that rules me out, I am running a cobalt puller 7 turn.

fishnstash 08-05-2008 05:03 PM

Hey Craig and Rich I hope all is well it looks like Team Syndicate is out we have race #5 of our 6 race points series on the same day,and so far i am still in the lead so i cant blow it ,maybe another time ,the track layout looks great as always , you guys always have a great facility and good times.

skellyo 08-06-2008 09:34 PM

Just read over the rules...sounds like a lot of fun. Will there be any practice time available on the track before the date of the event?

FL Knifemaker 08-07-2008 04:44 PM

I'm going to be a spectator. I just got my rig dialed in for crawling :)

Bermbuster 08-07-2008 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FL Knifemaker (Post 1293459)
I'm going to be a spectator. I just got my rig dialed in for crawling :)

wish I was closer I would watch/maybe compete myself....
my ax is set up for the slow crawl....

maybe the slow crawl can work......

please make some videos....."thumbsup"

skellyo 08-08-2008 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FL Knifemaker (Post 1293459)
I'm going to be a spectator. I just got my rig dialed in for crawling :)

I think I may actually race. I'll probably also set up another truck for a friend of mine to race. Now I just need to pick up a 13.5 motor and figure out how to cram an Orion 3200mAh Lipo in the trucks.

eHzCrawlers 08-08-2008 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by skellyo (Post 1292424)
Just read over the rules...sounds like a lot of fun. Will there be any practice time available on the track before the date of the event?

I hope by next week I will have the course complete, stop by anytime the store is open to test your rig. There is a map to our store at the bottom of my main webpage www.extremehobbyzone.com

Pictures will be posted Saturday of my progress on the course.

So far JConcepts will offer a Crawler body & a T-shirt as prizes, working on some more prizes. As always RCMM & eHz will provide trophies/medals for top finishers.

We will be taping this event and I will post as soon as possible after the event. Also if I have time that day I will set up our live webcam which can be viewed at www.ehzracing.com

The layout will provide 2 courses with many different lines. 1 will be the rock cross layout for the 27turn/13.5 rigs and maybe nitro tough truck with a 165' center line, but I am working real hard to make a really cool, technical slow crawl course in and around the Rock Cross course. We hope to hold many events here so stay tuned!! And as always the track is open for use any time during store hours, free until the end of the year, we may impose a small membership fee starting next year just so we can keep the course the best it can be.


Shop Hours
M-F 11am-7pm
Sat 10am-6pm
Sun 12pm-5pm

See you all the 23rd!!!! (except you Steve :-()
Rich

eHzCrawlers 08-08-2008 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Lushtrucker (Post 1280753)
that rules me out, I am running a cobalt puller 7 turn.

We still would love for you to come out, check the rules there should be an unlimited class and if not we'll make one, I know a few guys that have rigs that won't fit the Rock Cross Comp, we will have a regular Crawl Comp too.

Scattman 08-08-2008 09:39 AM

I might make it. That will give me 1 last chance to run my rigs before I ship them to Utah for the Nats.

Lushtrucker 08-08-2008 11:58 PM

I will try and make it, this is a busy month for me.

need to build a comp rig at some point too, the tuber may come apart for now so I can build a comp rig.

kartermdb 08-09-2008 08:50 AM

sweet, a reg comp too, now i might just make the trip"thumbsup"

eHzCrawlers 08-09-2008 08:28 PM

Pic Update
 
Took these pics with our rigs on the course... this is the first part of the course. Check them out on our new website, www.extremecrawlerzone.com

Scattman 08-11-2008 05:44 PM

Got any pics showing the whole course, finished or not to give an idea of size?

Lushtrucker 08-11-2008 11:08 PM

ok, I am gonna do my best to be there, would really like to see an unlimited class, or at least some fun run time on the track.

my tuber has been torn down and I am about half done building a comp rig.

eHzCrawlers 08-13-2008 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Lushtrucker (Post 1299219)
ok, I am gonna do my best to be there, would really like to see an unlimited class, or at least some fun run time on the track.

my tuber has been torn down and I am about half done building a comp rig.

We will run an unlimited class that day... and there will be plenty of fun run time on the course throughout the day. As long as you are on a free channel or have 2.4ghz you can use the crawler track during the monster truck races, truck pulls and other events that will not be running in that area.

I'll have more pictures showing the whole area very soon... you can judge by my drawing the general area of the standard crawler course. The pictures on my site are of the top right pile of rocks in my drawing. That will extend to the rocky hill. Figure 30' x 50' of crawler area. I am creating it with many different lines and able to run one set one way and have a completely different line running the other way. There will be plenty of tricky lines, a wooden bridge, fallen trees... it will be very scale looking with brush and trees. Looking to make many videos so looks and technical crawling will be a must. It won't be a pile of rocks thrown down like some man made courses I've seen online. My drawing is of the Rock Cross Course, it does not show the slow crawl areas all that much.

I do not want to disappoint especially since most will be driving a long ways.

We will have space for about 6 trailers close to the track (first come first served) Plenty of parking close by and large covered pits with plenty of power. We do have a soda/snack machine and there are many restaurants/fast food close by.

Hope to have a good turn out and many more events... This first one we will be taking lots of notes and suggestions from everyone so we can make this a great place to crawl for everyone, newbs to pros.

Any other questions or suggestions please let me know. If you think the area will be too small I'm willing to extend, I have plenty of room. I've been looking at other comps and crawler events and I think the area I have laid out will make for nice comps but if you have other ideas please let me know.

eHzCrawlers 08-13-2008 09:42 AM

We will run an unlimited class that day... and there will be plenty of fun run time on the course throughout the day. As long as you are on a free channel or have 2.4ghz you can use the crawler track during the monster truck races, truck pulls and other events that will not be running in that area.

I'll have more pictures showing the whole area very soon... you can judge by my drawing the general area of the standard crawler course. The pictures on my site are of the top right pile of rocks in my drawing. That will extend to the rocky hill. Figure 30' x 50' of crawler area. I am creating it with many different lines and able to run one set one way and have a completely different line running the other way. There will be plenty of tricky lines, a wooden bridge, fallen trees... it will be very scale looking with brush and trees. Looking to make many videos so looks and technical crawling will be a must. It won't be a pile of rocks thrown down like some man made courses I've seen online. My drawing is of the Rock Cross Course, it does not show the slow crawl areas all that much.

I do not want to disappoint especially since most will be driving a long ways.

We will have space for about 6 trailers close to the track (first come first served) Plenty of parking close by and large covered pits with plenty of power. We do have a soda/snack machine and there are many restaurants/fast food close by.

Hope to have a good turn out and many more events... This first one we will be taking lots of notes and suggestions from everyone so we can make this a great place to crawl for everyone, newbs to pros.

Any other questions or suggestions please let me know. If you think the area will be too small I'm willing to extend, I have plenty of room. I've been looking at other comps and crawler events and I think the area I have laid out will make for nice comps but if you have other ideas please let me know.

CRAWL UGLY 08-13-2008 01:31 PM

Anybody catch a time for this event?

eHzCrawlers 08-13-2008 01:51 PM

Registration is 9-9:30am.. events start 10-10:30 am.

CRAWL UGLY 08-13-2008 01:55 PM

Hey thanks hopefully I can get the day off course looks awesome!!!"thumbsup"

eHzCrawlers 08-13-2008 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRAWL UGLY (Post 1301300)
Hey thanks hopefully I can get the day off course looks awesome!!!"thumbsup"

Hope to see you there & Thanks

Lushtrucker 08-13-2008 11:23 PM

sounds like you have some good ideas and the right attitude ;)

this should be a fun day, glad it is on a saturday too.

just out of curiosity, how far are you from the lincoln dealer on 17? from the map I am guessing less than 5 minutes...

eHzCrawlers 08-14-2008 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Lushtrucker (Post 1302023)
sounds like you have some good ideas and the right attitude ;)

this should be a fun day, glad it is on a saturday too.

just out of curiosity, how far are you from the lincoln dealer on 17? from the map I am guessing less than 5 minutes...

We are about 5 minutes North from the Lincoln Dealership, just off 17, and thanks!!

FL Knifemaker 08-14-2008 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by eHzCrawlers (Post 1302300)
We are about 5 minutes North from the Lincoln Dealership, just off 17, and thanks!!

I know where it is but the Winterhaven Street system is like a GOD DAMN maze!! :x :-P Streets stop on one side of a lake, start on the other. Numbers, letters, streets, avenues. I get around New York City easier :)

eHzCrawlers 08-14-2008 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FL Knifemaker (Post 1302364)
I know where it is but the Winterhaven Street system is like a GOD DAMN maze!! :x :-P Streets stop on one side of a lake, start on the other. Numbers, letters, streets, avenues. I get around New York City easier :)

Yes I agree, just remember we are on Avenue C SW on the East side of SR17. Some GPS units send people over to the West side of SR17 on Ave C SW on the other end of Lake Howard :x, it is a mess here with the names of the streets, you are correct NYC is much eaiser to get around!!!

If all else fails I have a Google map on my website extremehobbyzone.com down at the bottom of the home page.

Grizzly4x4 08-14-2008 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lushtrucker (Post 1280753)
that rules me out, I am running a cobalt puller 7 turn.

Quote:

Originally Posted by eHzCrawlers (Post 1294313)
We still would love for you to come out, check the rules there should be an unlimited class and if not we'll make one, I know a few guys that have rigs that won't fit the Rock Cross Comp, we will have a regular Crawl Comp too.

A 27T motor is about 2300 rpm/volt and a 7T Cobalt puller is about 1834 rpm/volt. You should let him run since his motor is a bit slower.

eHzCrawlers 08-14-2008 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grizzly4x4 (Post 1302677)
A 27T motor is about 2300 rpm/volt and a 7T Cobalt puller is about 1834 rpm/volt. You should let him run since his motor is a bit slower.

That's true, I did not look at it that way, thanks for the heads up. We are willing to work with everyone this first time out... more of a trial run.

Lushtrucker 08-14-2008 10:46 PM

interesting on the rpm/v ratings. I have not seen a stock 27t motor rtr axial in person, so I have no basis for speed comparison. I also have yet to read all the rules, but it just occurred to me that you racing folk don't really care for the voltage advantage from a 3s lipo pack.

honestly in a field of stock rtr trucks I think the motor battery combo could be a huge advantage. in the interest of fairness I will try and show up a little early and we can do some speed comparisons and you guys can decide.

I deliver to the porter store on ave O SW frequently, so I have a pretty good idea of where you are at.

Grizzly4x4 08-15-2008 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eHzCrawlers (Post 1302842)
That's true, I did not look at it that way, thanks for the heads up. We are willing to work with everyone this first time out... more of a trial run.

Cool. "thumbsup"

sloppy 08-15-2008 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grizzly4x4 (Post 1302677)
A 27T motor is about 2300 rpm/volt and a 7T Cobalt puller is about 1834 rpm/volt. You should let him run since his motor is a bit slower.

little bit of torque difference there.. if the class is limited to 27t motors or there equivalent it should stick to that format. if they are gonna run a unlimtied class that is where the 7t belongs not with the stock powered trucks...

I wish we had something like this up here looks awesome.. you should sell lots of parts :lol:

Shaun (yota) 08-15-2008 07:49 PM

Can I run an E-Maxx motor in the stock class titan 550?

eHzCrawlers 08-16-2008 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (yota) (Post 1304565)
Can I run an E-Maxx motor in the stock class titan 550?

27 Turn Limit for stock class... The Titan 550's are 21 Turn. So you can run in the ProModified class.

Check out the rules here...

rcmonstermotorsports.com/Documents/RCMMRockCrossRules%20073009v.pdf

See some updated pics of the course here...

extremehobbyzone.com/page25.html

eHzCrawlers 08-16-2008 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (yota) (Post 1304565)
Can I run an E-Maxx motor in the stock class titan 550?

Sorry that is a 21 Turn Motor, you'll run Modified.

eHzCrawlers 08-16-2008 10:17 PM

Some updated pics up on my site extremecrawlerzone.com

eHzCrawlers 08-16-2008 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sloppy (Post 1303943)
I wish we had something like this up here looks awesome.. you should sell lots of parts :lol:

Thanks!!


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