I got completely BOM'd this weekend So, how many ways can we work BOM into a thread title? :) Not going to detail the build per-se, already several great build threads. Just going to point out a few things I found interesting, annoying, or amusing. Starting off with a box shot of course... showed up on Saturday along with some SSD brass knuckles, Traxxas X-rings and some shims just in case. The Mountain Dew was already here and is a poor substitute for Leinenkugel. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1900/...d1d70803_b.jpg I'd hate to be the guy at the Gmade factory that has to deal with D-bags all day. Kinda reminds me of my old job now that I think of it. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1870/...6c2fd4d0_b.jpg Really like the look of the wheels...your standard 8-hole style. I won't be using them here, but they'll find a home somewhere for sure. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1862/...eb695dda_b.jpg All the screws for the kit are separated into tiny bags, not with the other parts for each step. Not sure I've ever seen this before. For each step, you have to hunt through and find the screws you need. Unless you have several tiny bins, it's kind of a pain. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1868/...53697641_b.jpg Bolted on the SSD AR44 brass Knuckles and found that I had about 20 degrees of steering. They bolt on fine, but the shoulders/stops of the C-hubs restrict movement..hmm.. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1876/...2555e437_b.jpg I took a chance and ground down the stops on the C-hubs while watching the Brad K show/wreck fest at Vegas. Don't think it compromised strength any, but time will tell. I did add a 3mm washer to the top of the C-hub as I had a pretty good gap. Now fits perfect with no play, and plenty of steering angle. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1845/...05b3ee19_b.jpg https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1860/...b52f8d2c_b.jpg That's where I stopped for the night. I got both axles assembled, and the gears are very crunchy as others have noted. More crunchy than I'm comfortable with. I expect a little crunching as the gears wear in, but at certain points I cannot turn the axle by hand. Made sure not to over tighten the bearing caps, and not sure where else to buy some clearance, so I'll just let them break in I guess. We'll see if they loosen up after a few runs.. |
Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend Interesting note on the grinding, mainly for me as mine are both fine... People commenting on how quiet my rig is. |
Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend Once assembled I spun the axles 40 or 50 revolutions using a hex driver as a lever...loosened right up and crunchiness was gone. "thumbsup" I personally like having the hardware bags labeled individually...laid them all out on a TV tray adjacent to my bench chair so I can go right to what I need. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1880/...df540283_z.jpg |
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I think the most enjoyable setup I had was the MST CFX-W where the hardware is in blister packs organized by steps, with the different pieces of hardware in their own individual blisters. The ideal setup would be what MST did with different hardware in their own blister, and then combined with related hardware for a particular step in one strip, with the labeling of each blister that GMADE did. |
Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend I did chuck each axle into my drill and spun them for about a minute or so, no real difference. I'm a bit hesitant to loosen the pinion carrier...it's just plastic, I think that might cause more trouble than the tight gears! Once I get the drivetrain together, I'll see how much resistance there is and take it from there. |
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Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend Nice title, lol, and nice start, sir. RC4WD does their hardware the same way. Once you get used to it, it's not bad. Nothing's as poorly organized as the Kyosho Turbo Scorpion I'm building now. There's a bag labeled "Plastic Bag" with lots of little non-labeled plastic bags in it that's different from all the other plastic bags that have letters on them. The gold standard for me for well-organized kits, believe it or not, is the TRX-4 kit. Best instructions and bagging of anything I've ever built. There...2 sentences I never thought I'd utter. My gears were a little crunchy on the bench also, but everything seems to be working fine. I look forward to seeing what tricks you have up your sleeve. |
Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend A mitigating balance for the slightly crunchy diffs is the transmission is silky smooth, with the least amount of parasitic drag of anything I've built yet. |
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Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend Making a little progress. I have this set up in the kids playroom and kinda chip at it here and there while the kids play. OK, stare at Youtube watching other kids play (I don't understand that at all, but that's another topic!) Love the links. 4mm threads and all aluminum. Very beefy! https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1841/...1e79dc76_b.jpg Chassis and shocks are done...no real pics, you've seen them before. The kids Crayola table actually works out well...plenty of little pockets and recesses to keep stuff from rolling off. Who knew? :) https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1848/...1a506764_b.jpg Couple of build notes:
Everything is going together well overall. I think the plastic shock towers up front are a bit on the flimsy side, but other than that it seems like a solid rig so far. I did notice the stock tires are somewhat plastic-y...Strange. Very different compound from my other Gmade tires, feels much harder. Usually I give the stock stuff a try, but I won't even bother with these. |
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Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend Cracking right along... This part was incredibly frustrating...it's all threaded, and trying to get the links centered up while threading the bolt through took more patience than I have. Ended up stripping the head as well, and had to use a pair of pliers to get it out. Gave up, drilled it out to 3mm and used a through bolt and locknut. Went together in 5 seconds after that. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1955/...427d3cdf_b.jpg Got the painting done last night. Came out pretty good. I used Pactra red mixed with a bit of Fascent Red and threw some metal flake in it. I'd like to say it was some mad scientist professional mixing going on and came out exactly how I wanted it, but honestly I didn't have enough red to do the body, so I had to improvise. :) It did come out pretty good though. Now it changes from red to burgundy to light red depending on how the light hits it. Gave it a Ranger-esque scheme. I like the kit graphics, but I'm not big on flashy graphics per-se on my scalers, so I'm leaving it as is for now. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1927/...8aa940b9_b.jpg Got the body on and noticed right away I didn't like how the wheels sat in the wheelwells. Billinvic moved his rear wheels back - mine looked ok, but the fronts were back way too far to my eyes. I double checked all my rod ends and they are good per the kit directions...No real way to mess up the body... hmmm.. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1908/...749c3f20_b.jpg Nope, that's not going to work https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1967/...cccd444f_b.jpg Found some 5mm spacers and drilled them out to fit over the 4mm threaded stubs. Stretched out 5mm front and back. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1978/...7f68ca6c_b.jpg Much better ... odd, I didn't notice that on other builds. I must have messed up something, but I can't for the life of me figure out what. Oh well, problem solved. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1963/...8985a181_b.jpg Found that the driveshafts are a perfect match to Wild Boars. Got plenty of spares on hand if needed. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1930/...0d4ab889_b.jpg Went to remove the hexes to put some stepped ones on, and wow! Were they on there. Had to pry them off and it was not easy. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1924/...b9cb635f_b.jpg Final setup with TSL's and Gearheads. Love it!! https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1974/...559df341_b.jpg https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1954/...c7aa4785_b.jpg |
Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend It looks much, much better with those wheels! I like it a lot. Can't wait to see it perform. Do you have any glaring concerns at this point? |
Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend Looks sharp! I got mine painted today...thought I liked the graphics until I put them on. Not so much now! |
Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend The truck looks sweet with that color choice, and the tires and wheels really add something. I had the same problem with that through-bolt on the rear. Stripped the head and used a visegrips to pre-thread the hole with the old bolt. |
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Not really, it's a solid kit. Pinion mesh is loud with the traxxas pinion, I'll see what else I have before actually running it. |
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Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend I didn't even try the stock pinion. Ratio was a little high for me, think it was around 36:1 IIRC. I try to stay around 45:1 as that seems to work best for my driving style. On a side note, I mounted up some 4.19's and frankly love it. Do need to lower the truck 10-15mm or so as it looks a bit jacked up. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1962/...c58402a1_b.jpg https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1908/...168f2eef_b.jpg I'll probably swap them over at some point and change the suspension around, though I want to run it with the TSL's first and see how it does. |
Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend Yep, those tires fit the wheel wells much better. When you lower it the truck will look awesome. |
Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend OS...can I get a top shot of your fuel cell? Please & thank you. :) |
Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend Man, I like your BOM more every time I see it! There WILL be one in our garage, just not sure how soon. |
Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend I noticed the front wheels didn't sit too well in the arches, but just trimmed the rear of the arch some to make it look more even... Kinda hard to see, but thats all I did and it looks OK to me. Tho I do plan on switching out to the SR5 cab soon... https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1892/...0bcaa82f_b.jpgDSC09982 by Peter Rathbone, on Flickr |
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Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend Thanks for pic! Very nice...I was considering detailing it, guess I have to now. "thumbsup" |
Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend Finally go the BOM out for a mainden run...well, playing around on the test curse. First though, some poser pics. Added a smaller PL TSL as a spare and a few details so it didn't look so bare out back. Kept it pretty simple so far. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1959/...4e1db064_b.jpg https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1934/...4864ec4b_b.jpg Paint scheme was inspired by my 1:1 F150. I left off the rust option though. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1952/...628e915b_b.jpg This truck just flat performs. Can't wait to get it out in the wild. Wasn't much that challenged it. At least as capable as my SCX10v2 which is my gold standard. Had a little tire rub up front, but other than that it was smooth sailing. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1911/...792805bf_b.jpghttps://farm2.staticflickr.com/1906/...e80d4e40_b.jpg This line gives most of my trucks fits. The BOM was barely breaking a sweat. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1916/...5413968a_b.jpg Conquered the 50d ramp, no problem. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1921/...f6c2013c_b.jpg Great approach and departure angles. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1929/...dd4e05b8_b.jpg Over the moon with how this truck looks and performs. Can't wait to get it out on an actual trail run! |
Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend How do you like that rear shock configuration? I was considering eventually end up with that configuration as well. |
Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend I was hoping to get mine out today but I have to go to the stupid fair. :x Glad to see you happy with performance! |
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I'd like to switch over to the cants and a swaybar eventually and lower it down for a set of 4.19's. That's later though, plan to run it as is for a while. |
Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend I just realized what the rear suspension looked like. Very odd having the shocks laid down at such an extreme angle with the top two mounts being so close together. Reminds me of a CrossRC Demon. Theoretically it should give you lots of flex at the expense of stability so I'm anxious to see how it performs out on the trail. |
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I'm more inclined now to give the cantilever setup a shot. It makes it unique and if Old n Ratty's adjustments work well... I'll probably order the Junfac cantilever parts and stick with it. |
Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend No problems with stability that I've noticed. Sidehills very well. To be sure, a St. Pete's run is in order, and quickly! :) |
Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend Finally got out to St. Petes... The BOM did excellent!! Very impressed. Climbed well, great sidehilling, and both mirrors are still attached after 3 hours of wheeling. Swapped on some Pitbulls and they made short work of the mud and rocks today. Didn't seem to mind the cold at all. Really a good performing truck. https://i.postimg.cc/R04N44QP/20181222-130836sm.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/g0sr0QgG/20181222-135133sm.jpg No issues with the transmission, though another BOM that was there had the dreaded clicking inside. Apparently there's a new gearbox design that's out. So far, I didn't have any issues. Can't think of a thing I'd change mechanically at the moment, just going to play around with wheels and tires and keep an eye out for a Dinky Honcho interior. |
Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend Finally got an interior in the BOM. Nothing fancy, just a Dinky Honcho kit. Fits the body perfect, just needed to remove a bit at the bottom to clear the motor and transmission. https://i.postimg.cc/x1q9b5NY/20190311-091018sm.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/mgqB3979/20190311-091033sm.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/Ls1RxsVb/20190311-093324sm.jpg Don't have any other plans for the truck. Well, maybe trying out some other wheels and tires, but otherwise it's good to go. Wheels good, looks good, ready for Spring!! |
Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend Nice truck! I like the work you have done and always seem to finish your trucks off nicely. I was torn between the BOM and Venture SBK. Got the SBK in the end, but will keep an eye on these. |
Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend Been running my TRX4's lately, and some of my other trucks were getting jealous. So I grabbed my CMX and BOM and went to meet up with a friend. There ran into 3 other guys there who arrived at the same time, so we all hitched up and spent 5 hours on the rocks, trails and streams. Great day of wheeling! I picked the BOM as it was closest to what everyone else was running. I had removed some scale details so it was a little plain, but wheeled just as good as I remember. Turns out there was another one out on the trails...we Bominated the other trucks... There was a well tuned SCX10 that kept up but we went pretty much anywhere. https://i.postimg.cc/C53B54Mk/20190630-095138sm.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/kgdRdwpd/20190630-103435sm.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/bwHDYb7S/20190630-103521sm.jpg We ended up with a good spread of trucks. 2 Bom's, Ascender, SCX10, and TRX-4. https://i.postimg.cc/bvmZkPNz/20190630-120210sm.jpg Tearing up the hill climb. Pitbulls did great, conditions were damp, but not soggy. Traction was great all day! https://i.postimg.cc/N0syKFtJ/20190630-103941sm.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/G3VsXbPt/20190630-113041sm.jpg Especially tough climb, pics don't do it justice. Bom walked right up it! https://i.postimg.cc/pXj573kZ/20190630-113605sm.jpg By the end of the run (5 hours or so), my transmission started to click a bit under hard climbs. Not sure of Gmade is still sending out replacement parts or not, I'll shoot over an e-mail and find out. Parked for now as I don't want to lunch the gears. :( |
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Anyway, I love my BOM. It performs really well, and somehow it's still flying under everyone's radar. Whenever I take it out, other guys out there are actually interested and want one. Most comments I hear... "It's so quiet!", "That thing is planted!". It's one of those trucks where you need to see it in person to really appreciate it, and what it can do even with a cantilever setup. |
Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend This is only the third time I've had it out. I've been hit with TRX4 fever, though it's abated somewhat. :) Mine is a bit noisy, I'm running a Traxxas pinion IIRC and it doesn't play well with the spur gear. The cut of the gears is a bit different. I'll try a few others when I swap out the trans. It does fly under the radar, I'd say our two were the best wheeling trucks last weekend. It really is a good performer! We had similar electronics, the difference came down to the tires. Not sure what foams he was running, but my Pitbulls definitely had an advantage over his Hyrax in all situations. Got an e-mail last night, the trans parts have already shipped. Big thumbs up to Gmade!! |
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