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OSRC 09-17-2018 06:28 AM

I got completely BOM'd this weekend
 
So, how many ways can we work BOM into a thread title? :)

Not going to detail the build per-se, already several great build threads. Just going to point out a few things I found interesting, annoying, or amusing.

Starting off with a box shot of course... showed up on Saturday along with some SSD brass knuckles, Traxxas X-rings and some shims just in case. The Mountain Dew was already here and is a poor substitute for Leinenkugel.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1900/...d1d70803_b.jpg

I'd hate to be the guy at the Gmade factory that has to deal with D-bags all day. Kinda reminds me of my old job now that I think of it.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1870/...6c2fd4d0_b.jpg

Really like the look of the wheels...your standard 8-hole style. I won't be using them here, but they'll find a home somewhere for sure.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1862/...eb695dda_b.jpg

All the screws for the kit are separated into tiny bags, not with the other parts for each step. Not sure I've ever seen this before. For each step, you have to hunt through and find the screws you need. Unless you have several tiny bins, it's kind of a pain.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1868/...53697641_b.jpg

Bolted on the SSD AR44 brass Knuckles and found that I had about 20 degrees of steering. They bolt on fine, but the shoulders/stops of the C-hubs restrict movement..hmm..
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1876/...2555e437_b.jpg

I took a chance and ground down the stops on the C-hubs while watching the Brad K show/wreck fest at Vegas. Don't think it compromised strength any, but time will tell. I did add a 3mm washer to the top of the C-hub as I had a pretty good gap. Now fits perfect with no play, and plenty of steering angle.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1845/...05b3ee19_b.jpg
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1860/...b52f8d2c_b.jpg

That's where I stopped for the night. I got both axles assembled, and the gears are very crunchy as others have noted. More crunchy than I'm comfortable with. I expect a little crunching as the gears wear in, but at certain points I cannot turn the axle by hand. Made sure not to over tighten the bearing caps, and not sure where else to buy some clearance, so I'll just let them break in I guess. We'll see if they loosen up after a few runs..

Old n ratty 09-17-2018 07:11 AM

Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend
 
Interesting note on the grinding, mainly for me as mine are both fine... People commenting on how quiet my rig is.

2mtech 09-17-2018 09:50 AM

Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend
 
Once assembled I spun the axles 40 or 50 revolutions using a hex driver as a lever...loosened right up and crunchiness was gone. "thumbsup"

I personally like having the hardware bags labeled individually...laid them all out on a TV tray adjacent to my bench chair so I can go right to what I need.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1880/...df540283_z.jpg

soze 09-17-2018 11:39 AM

Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OSRC (Post 5869185)

That's where I stopped for the night. I got both axles assembled, and the gears are very crunchy as others have noted. More crunchy than I'm comfortable with. I expect a little crunching as the gears wear in, but at certain points I cannot turn the axle by hand. Made sure not to over tighten the bearing caps, and not sure where else to buy some clearance, so I'll just let them break in I guess. We'll see if they loosen up after a few runs..

The other place to loosen is the shaft/gear housing side itself. I made sure not to overtighten that side as well. It's mostly smooth, but there is one "rougher" spot during each revolution. Hopefully that breaks in.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2mtech (Post 5869254)
Once assembled I spun the axles 40 or 50 revolutions using a hex driver as a lever...loosened right up and crunchiness was gone. "thumbsup"

I personally like having the hardware bags labeled individually...laid them all out on a TV tray adjacent to my bench chair so I can go right to what I need.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1880/...df540283_z.jpg

The labeling part of each piece of hardware I like very much, but they didn't go far enough.

I think the most enjoyable setup I had was the MST CFX-W where the hardware is in blister packs organized by steps, with the different pieces of hardware in their own individual blisters.

The ideal setup would be what MST did with different hardware in their own blister, and then combined with related hardware for a particular step in one strip, with the labeling of each blister that GMADE did.

OSRC 09-17-2018 01:15 PM

Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend
 
I did chuck each axle into my drill and spun them for about a minute or so, no real difference. I'm a bit hesitant to loosen the pinion carrier...it's just plastic, I think that might cause more trouble than the tight gears!

Once I get the drivetrain together, I'll see how much resistance there is and take it from there.

HumboldtEF 09-17-2018 01:33 PM

Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend
 
Those D-bags are always good for a laugh :lmao:

new2rocks 09-17-2018 07:44 PM

Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend
 
Nice title, lol, and nice start, sir. RC4WD does their hardware the same way. Once you get used to it, it's not bad. Nothing's as poorly organized as the Kyosho Turbo Scorpion I'm building now. There's a bag labeled "Plastic Bag" with lots of little non-labeled plastic bags in it that's different from all the other plastic bags that have letters on them. The gold standard for me for well-organized kits, believe it or not, is the TRX-4 kit. Best instructions and bagging of anything I've ever built. There...2 sentences I never thought I'd utter.

My gears were a little crunchy on the bench also, but everything seems to be working fine. I look forward to seeing what tricks you have up your sleeve.

2mtech 09-17-2018 10:36 PM

Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend
 
A mitigating balance for the slightly crunchy diffs is the transmission is silky smooth, with the least amount of parasitic drag of anything I've built yet.

soze 09-17-2018 10:46 PM

Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2mtech (Post 5869433)
A mitigating balance for the slightly crunchy diffs is the transmission is silky smooth, with the least amount of parasitic drag of anything I've built yet.

Agree here. The transmission is definitely smooth.

OSRC 09-19-2018 07:43 AM

Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend
 
Making a little progress. I have this set up in the kids playroom and kinda chip at it here and there while the kids play. OK, stare at Youtube watching other kids play (I don't understand that at all, but that's another topic!)

Love the links. 4mm threads and all aluminum. Very beefy!
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1841/...1e79dc76_b.jpg

Chassis and shocks are done...no real pics, you've seen them before. The kids Crayola table actually works out well...plenty of little pockets and recesses to keep stuff from rolling off. Who knew? :)
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1848/...1a506764_b.jpg

Couple of build notes:
  • I used a Traxxas 11t pinion out of the TRX-4 for a bit more torque. The tooth profile is a bit different apparently, it's a little noisy. Other than that, the gearbox is nice and smooth.
  • Getting the upper and lower gearbox parts together was a bit tricky. Very easy to mess up here. Just took my time and wiggled/pressed/cajoled/begged/swore/finessed them into place. Cool design, but not an easy gearbox to get into easily and the multi-piece design seems more complicated than it needs to be. I do like how it is incorporated int the skid, but if you're doing that, the motor should be lower. Seems a bit high to me.
  • The included shock oil was like water. I used 30w instead, and it still seems a bit light. I'll wait until the truck is done before changing anything else.
  • I stuffed some lead into the lower box like billinvic did. I like a heavier truck and it's a perfect place for it. It's about 3/4 full with some foam on top to keep anything from rattling loose.
  • Decided to go with the stand up shock option for now. Built up the cantilever setup, but without bearings in the cants and all the extra mounts I'm sure there will be a ton of play before too long. Not to mention I wasn't a fan of the 2 piece cantilever design. I might give it a go with the aluminum upgrades and a swaybar at some point, it's pretty cool.

Everything is going together well overall. I think the plastic shock towers up front are a bit on the flimsy side, but other than that it seems like a solid rig so far.

I did notice the stock tires are somewhat plastic-y...Strange. Very different compound from my other Gmade tires, feels much harder. Usually I give the stock stuff a try, but I won't even bother with these.

zanthrax 09-19-2018 08:04 AM

Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OSRC (Post 5869747)
stare at Youtube watching other kids play (I don't understand that at all)


It's a lot like grown-ups watching sports instead of doing sports.

OSRC 09-23-2018 06:59 PM

Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend
 
Cracking right along...

This part was incredibly frustrating...it's all threaded, and trying to get the links centered up while threading the bolt through took more patience than I have. Ended up stripping the head as well, and had to use a pair of pliers to get it out. Gave up, drilled it out to 3mm and used a through bolt and locknut. Went together in 5 seconds after that.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1955/...427d3cdf_b.jpg

Got the painting done last night. Came out pretty good. I used Pactra red mixed with a bit of Fascent Red and threw some metal flake in it. I'd like to say it was some mad scientist professional mixing going on and came out exactly how I wanted it, but honestly I didn't have enough red to do the body, so I had to improvise. :) It did come out pretty good though. Now it changes from red to burgundy to light red depending on how the light hits it. Gave it a Ranger-esque scheme. I like the kit graphics, but I'm not big on flashy graphics per-se on my scalers, so I'm leaving it as is for now.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1927/...8aa940b9_b.jpg

Got the body on and noticed right away I didn't like how the wheels sat in the wheelwells. Billinvic moved his rear wheels back - mine looked ok, but the fronts were back way too far to my eyes. I double checked all my rod ends and they are good per the kit directions...No real way to mess up the body... hmmm..
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1908/...749c3f20_b.jpg

Nope, that's not going to work
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1967/...cccd444f_b.jpg

Found some 5mm spacers and drilled them out to fit over the 4mm threaded stubs. Stretched out 5mm front and back.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1978/...7f68ca6c_b.jpg

Much better ... odd, I didn't notice that on other builds. I must have messed up something, but I can't for the life of me figure out what. Oh well, problem solved.
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Found that the driveshafts are a perfect match to Wild Boars. Got plenty of spares on hand if needed.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1930/...0d4ab889_b.jpg

Went to remove the hexes to put some stepped ones on, and wow! Were they on there. Had to pry them off and it was not easy.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1924/...b9cb635f_b.jpg

Final setup with TSL's and Gearheads. Love it!!
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JatoTheRipper 09-23-2018 07:18 PM

Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend
 
It looks much, much better with those wheels! I like it a lot. Can't wait to see it perform.

Do you have any glaring concerns at this point?

2mtech 09-23-2018 07:30 PM

Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend
 
Looks sharp! I got mine painted today...thought I liked the graphics until I put them on. Not so much now!

TrailDawg362 09-23-2018 08:20 PM

Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend
 
The truck looks sweet with that color choice, and the tires and wheels really add something. I had the same problem with that through-bolt on the rear. Stripped the head and used a visegrips to pre-thread the hole with the old bolt.

OSRC 09-23-2018 09:34 PM

Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JatoTheRipper (Post 5870845)
Do you have any glaring concerns at this point?

That it will look pink in the sunlight... :)

Not really, it's a solid kit. Pinion mesh is loud with the traxxas pinion, I'll see what else I have before actually running it.

soze 09-23-2018 10:41 PM

Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OSRC (Post 5870880)
That it will look pink in the sunlight... :)

Not really, it's a solid kit. Pinion mesh is loud with the traxxas pinion, I'll see what else I have before actually running it.

I just got my motor mounted up. The pinion mesh is a little tighter than I'd like it to be. I'm wondering if I should enlarge the motor mount holes so that I can have some play room with the mesh.

JatoTheRipper 09-24-2018 06:02 AM

Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OSRC (Post 5870880)
That it will look pink in the sunlight... :)

Not really, it's a solid kit. Pinion mesh is loud with the traxxas pinion, I'll see what else I have before actually running it.

I can't think of anything worse! :lmao:

OSRC 09-24-2018 06:20 AM

Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend
 
I didn't even try the stock pinion. Ratio was a little high for me, think it was around 36:1 IIRC. I try to stay around 45:1 as that seems to work best for my driving style.

On a side note, I mounted up some 4.19's and frankly love it. Do need to lower the truck 10-15mm or so as it looks a bit jacked up.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1962/...c58402a1_b.jpg
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1908/...168f2eef_b.jpg

I'll probably swap them over at some point and change the suspension around, though I want to run it with the TSL's first and see how it does.

JatoTheRipper 09-24-2018 08:26 AM

Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend
 
Yep, those tires fit the wheel wells much better. When you lower it the truck will look awesome.

2mtech 09-24-2018 10:02 AM

Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend
 
OS...can I get a top shot of your fuel cell?

Please & thank you. :)

TheLetterJ 09-24-2018 11:57 AM

Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend
 
Man, I like your BOM more every time I see it! There WILL be one in our garage, just not sure how soon.

Old n ratty 09-24-2018 02:31 PM

Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend
 
I noticed the front wheels didn't sit too well in the arches, but just trimmed the rear of the arch some to make it look more even...
Kinda hard to see, but thats all I did and it looks OK to me. Tho I do plan on switching out to the SR5 cab soon...
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1892/...0bcaa82f_b.jpgDSC09982 by Peter Rathbone, on Flickr

OSRC 09-25-2018 06:07 AM

Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2mtech (Post 5870973)
OS...can I get a top shot of your fuel cell?

Will do!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old n ratty (Post 5871026)
I noticed the front wheels didn't sit too well in the arches, but just trimmed the rear of the arch some to make it look more even...

OK, glad it's not just me in that case! "thumbsup"

OSRC 09-25-2018 02:12 PM

Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2mtech (Post 5870973)
OS...can I get a top shot of your fuel cell?

Please & thank you. :)

Nothing fancy, just red with a little silver
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1972/...c225c870_b.jpg

2mtech 09-25-2018 02:43 PM

Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend
 
Thanks for pic! Very nice...I was considering detailing it, guess I have to now. "thumbsup"

OSRC 10-06-2018 07:32 AM

Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend
 
Finally go the BOM out for a mainden run...well, playing around on the test curse. First though, some poser pics. Added a smaller PL TSL as a spare and a few details so it didn't look so bare out back. Kept it pretty simple so far.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1959/...4e1db064_b.jpg
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1934/...4864ec4b_b.jpg

Paint scheme was inspired by my 1:1 F150. I left off the rust option though.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1952/...628e915b_b.jpg

This truck just flat performs. Can't wait to get it out in the wild. Wasn't much that challenged it. At least as capable as my SCX10v2 which is my gold standard. Had a little tire rub up front, but other than that it was smooth sailing.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1911/...792805bf_b.jpghttps://farm2.staticflickr.com/1906/...e80d4e40_b.jpg

This line gives most of my trucks fits. The BOM was barely breaking a sweat.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1916/...5413968a_b.jpg

Conquered the 50d ramp, no problem.
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Great approach and departure angles.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1929/...dd4e05b8_b.jpg

Over the moon with how this truck looks and performs. Can't wait to get it out on an actual trail run!

soze 10-06-2018 09:36 AM

Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend
 
How do you like that rear shock configuration? I was considering eventually end up with that configuration as well.

2mtech 10-06-2018 09:55 AM

Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend
 
I was hoping to get mine out today but I have to go to the stupid fair. :x

Glad to see you happy with performance!

OSRC 10-09-2018 08:27 AM

Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by soze (Post 5873978)
How do you like that rear shock configuration? I was considering eventually end up with that configuration as well.

Don't have anything to compare it to, but there's no major TT that I noticed. It's a bit stiff compared to the front which is a good thing. I like it overall.

I'd like to switch over to the cants and a swaybar eventually and lower it down for a set of 4.19's. That's later though, plan to run it as is for a while.

JatoTheRipper 10-09-2018 08:37 AM

Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend
 
I just realized what the rear suspension looked like. Very odd having the shocks laid down at such an extreme angle with the top two mounts being so close together. Reminds me of a CrossRC Demon. Theoretically it should give you lots of flex at the expense of stability so I'm anxious to see how it performs out on the trail.

soze 10-09-2018 09:40 AM

Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OSRC (Post 5874672)
Don't have anything to compare it to, but there's no major TT that I noticed. It's a bit stiff compared to the front which is a good thing. I like it overall.

I'd like to switch over to the cants and a swaybar eventually and lower it down for a set of 4.19's. That's later though, plan to run it as is for a while.

I've actually also seen videos of a BOM using shock keys so that the rear suspension is in the traditional layout, but top tilted forward like this \ . It looked to perform really well in that configuration as well.

I'm more inclined now to give the cantilever setup a shot. It makes it unique and if Old n Ratty's adjustments work well... I'll probably order the Junfac cantilever parts and stick with it.

OSRC 10-09-2018 02:31 PM

Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend
 
No problems with stability that I've noticed. Sidehills very well. To be sure, a St. Pete's run is in order, and quickly! :)

OSRC 12-24-2018 07:43 AM

Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend
 
Finally got out to St. Petes...

The BOM did excellent!! Very impressed. Climbed well, great sidehilling, and both mirrors are still attached after 3 hours of wheeling. Swapped on some Pitbulls and they made short work of the mud and rocks today. Didn't seem to mind the cold at all. Really a good performing truck.

https://i.postimg.cc/R04N44QP/20181222-130836sm.jpg
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No issues with the transmission, though another BOM that was there had the dreaded clicking inside. Apparently there's a new gearbox design that's out. So far, I didn't have any issues.

Can't think of a thing I'd change mechanically at the moment, just going to play around with wheels and tires and keep an eye out for a Dinky Honcho interior.

OSRC 03-13-2019 06:50 AM

Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend
 
Finally got an interior in the BOM. Nothing fancy, just a Dinky Honcho kit. Fits the body perfect, just needed to remove a bit at the bottom to clear the motor and transmission.
https://i.postimg.cc/x1q9b5NY/20190311-091018sm.jpg
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Don't have any other plans for the truck. Well, maybe trying out some other wheels and tires, but otherwise it's good to go. Wheels good, looks good, ready for Spring!!

M1tch 03-14-2019 02:52 AM

Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend
 
Nice truck! I like the work you have done and always seem to finish your trucks off nicely.

I was torn between the BOM and Venture SBK. Got the SBK in the end, but will keep an eye on these.

OSRC 07-01-2019 07:21 AM

Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend
 
Been running my TRX4's lately, and some of my other trucks were getting jealous. So I grabbed my CMX and BOM and went to meet up with a friend. There ran into 3 other guys there who arrived at the same time, so we all hitched up and spent 5 hours on the rocks, trails and streams. Great day of wheeling! I picked the BOM as it was closest to what everyone else was running. I had removed some scale details so it was a little plain, but wheeled just as good as I remember.

Turns out there was another one out on the trails...we Bominated the other trucks... There was a well tuned SCX10 that kept up but we went pretty much anywhere.
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We ended up with a good spread of trucks. 2 Bom's, Ascender, SCX10, and TRX-4.
https://i.postimg.cc/bvmZkPNz/20190630-120210sm.jpg

Tearing up the hill climb. Pitbulls did great, conditions were damp, but not soggy. Traction was great all day!
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Especially tough climb, pics don't do it justice. Bom walked right up it!
https://i.postimg.cc/pXj573kZ/20190630-113605sm.jpg

By the end of the run (5 hours or so), my transmission started to click a bit under hard climbs. Not sure of Gmade is still sending out replacement parts or not, I'll shoot over an e-mail and find out. Parked for now as I don't want to lunch the gears. :(

OSRC 07-01-2019 09:26 PM

Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OSRC (Post 5946832)
Not sure of Gmade is still sending out replacement parts or not, I'll shoot over an e-mail and find out. Parked for now as I don't want to lunch the gears.

Guess they are, responded in less than 12 hours asking for my address. Excellent service! "thumbsup"

soze 07-01-2019 11:09 PM

Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OSRC (Post 5947105)
Guess they are, responded in less than 12 hours asking for my address. Excellent service! "thumbsup"

I'm surprised you haven't swapped out yet!

Anyway, I love my BOM. It performs really well, and somehow it's still flying under everyone's radar.

Whenever I take it out, other guys out there are actually interested and want one. Most comments I hear... "It's so quiet!", "That thing is planted!".

It's one of those trucks where you need to see it in person to really appreciate it, and what it can do even with a cantilever setup.

OSRC 07-02-2019 07:03 AM

Re: I got completely BOM'd this weekend
 
This is only the third time I've had it out. I've been hit with TRX4 fever, though it's abated somewhat. :)

Mine is a bit noisy, I'm running a Traxxas pinion IIRC and it doesn't play well with the spur gear. The cut of the gears is a bit different. I'll try a few others when I swap out the trans.

It does fly under the radar, I'd say our two were the best wheeling trucks last weekend. It really is a good performer! We had similar electronics, the difference came down to the tires. Not sure what foams he was running, but my Pitbulls definitely had an advantage over his Hyrax in all situations.

Got an e-mail last night, the trans parts have already shipped. Big thumbs up to Gmade!!


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