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bob1961 · 06-03-2008, 06:45 PM

what is the optimal articulation to have in a crawler...............bob

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Robb · 06-03-2008, 06:46 PM

No such answer.

bob1961 · 06-03-2008, 07:12 PM

how i'm thinking of artic is the front axle on the ground is at 0 degrees....the rig standing on it's side on the wheels is 90 degrees, no

....so the rear axle has both wheels on the ground how much would the front axle be tilted with one wheel off the ground to be to much articulation..................bob

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TylerV · 06-03-2008, 07:30 PM

Shoot for 90, then just add more as you go if you don't like it.

some_guy · 06-04-2008, 01:06 AM

you need to put lower than 40* in the poll for us that like the solid axle feeling

5-10* max, carries a wheel everytime

bob1961 · 06-04-2008, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by some_guy

you need to put lower than 40* in the poll for us that like the solid axle feeling

5-10* max, carries a wheel everytime

ok now i'm confused

....how is articulation measured....with 5-10 degree max articulation to me the rear tires are on the ground then one front off the ground would only be about 1/2" off the ground....other words if you take a 45 degree drafting triangle and set your front wheels on the triangle with the lower wheel at the bottom and the higher wheel up the 45 degree angle you have 45 degree articulation at that point, yes/no

....i'm not new to RC cars, just crawlers....i read threads where guys are talking about 70 degree of articulation....now what i know is 90 degrees is plumb from top to bottom as in framing a wall in a house....take that same 2x4 and drop it half way to the floor will be at 45 degrees then....i'm not sure how to spell it out any clearer from some of the posts i've gotten so far that's making me confused to what some think degrees of articulation is.....................bob

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freetimecrawler · 06-04-2008, 06:37 AM

Some people are being smart asses.
Too much articulation can be a bad thing. It's pretty much a personal choice, and driving style.
I use another 2.2 tire/wheel, and I like about a tire's height worth of articulation, or maybe a tad more. Not sure what degree that is. I just know it works for me. Trial and error is probably your best bet.

Tupers · 06-04-2008, 06:37 AM

The height of a coke can probaly about 40.

bob1961 · 06-04-2008, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Robb

No such answer.

why

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bob1961 · 06-04-2008, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by TylerV

Shoot for 90, then just add more as you go if you don't like it.

please explain

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freetimecrawler · 06-04-2008, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by bob1961

why

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Because, as stated above, it's pretty much personal preference, and driving style. There is never a best/optimal answer to anything in crawling. It's mostly personal preference and driving style that dictates your rigs set-up.

freetimecrawler · 06-04-2008, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by bob1961

please explain

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I'm pretty sure he's joking around.
90% is too much period. It would hurt you more then help you.

bob1961 · 06-04-2008, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freetimecrawler

Some people are being smart asses.
Too much articulation can be a bad thing. It's pretty much a personal choice, and driving style.
I use another 2.2 tire/wheel, and I like about a tire's height worth of articulation, or maybe a tad more. Not sure what degree that is. I just know it works for me. Trial and error is probably your best bet.

trial and error will no doubt be best....i'd say a tire height will be about 30 to 40 degrees as a soda can is about 40 i'd say too....thx you two for a proper reply

....as to the other replies, i'll go ask my 10 year old autistic son that knows nothing about crawlers and get a better reply

....i know i know your just joking....well don't

..................bob

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nj05nismo · 06-04-2008, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by bob1961

why

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because there is no right answer. Ive actually cut a LOT of articulation out of my rig by limiting the travel of the shocks. The truck performs much better than it used to. But there are some courses where a bit more or bit less travel would be better so the need comes to change the limitations in my shocks to adjust for the course. Trust me if there was a perfect answer to this, or the best geometry, or the best tire. everyone would be running the exact same rig. This is a tinkering sport, get out there and try new things till it works for you.

JUSTGOINGSLOW · 06-04-2008, 08:02 AM

I have found that my rig set at 60 to 65 percent articulation performs much better in all factor's, then when i had it set at 75 to 80 percent. Espeically on side hilling and verticals IMO.

papasmurf · 06-04-2008, 09:37 AM

I have been playing with my articulation for the last week trying to get it right for me. It took me a few setups to find one I like but mine is around 40 degrees. But I have noticed that some places in my back yard course could use a little less. It all depends on where you are crawling at the time and your personal preferences.

HBRC · 06-04-2008, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Etype R

The spelling error in your title isn't helping either....

yup, i thought this was a converted chain driven kyosho thread. That would be cool.

and to contribute, I have a low slung gopher that i like my 70* or so, but on my homemade droop setup that sits a little higher, 60* is closer to what I like.

Brainstain · 06-04-2008, 02:26 PM

Build the truck with no limitations and super soft springs. Drive it and see what it does. I had a buggy that ran Losi White's all the way around, had about 70* of articulation and worked awesome. On the other hand, I loved my torsion TLT that had about 10 degrees of articulation. It's ALL up to you.

Grizzly4x4 · 06-04-2008, 02:30 PM

I cleaned up the thread.
Guys please remember, bob doesn't like humor, joking, or chit chat in his threads. Only facts.

I hated to delete sloppy's post though, best answer ever.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sloppy

I picked 80 cause that is my favorite temperature

80 makes clothing shrink on college girls I like that

Etype R · 06-04-2008, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Grizzly4x4

I cleaned up the thread.
Guys please remember, bob doesn't like humor, joking, or chit chat in his threads. Only facts.

I hated to delete sloppy's post though, best answer ever.

You could have at least fixed the title while you were at it... I thought it was a thread about Optima batteries, not optimal articulation

View Poll Results: optima articulation...........
40 degree	16	27.12%
50 degree	11	18.64%
60 degree	17	28.81%
70 degree	7	11.86%
80 degree	8	13.56%
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06-03-2008, 06:45 PM	#1
bob1961 I wanna be Dave Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Wayne county. PA Posts: 2,507	optimal articulation.............. what is the optimal articulation to have in a crawler...............bob .... Last edited by Grizzly4x4; 06-04-2008 at 06:23 PM.

06-04-2008, 08:02 AM	#15
JUSTGOINGSLOW RCC Addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Commerce Twp. Posts: 1,773	I have found that my rig set at 60 to 65 percent articulation performs much better in all factor's, then when i had it set at 75 to 80 percent. Espeically on side hilling and verticals IMO. Last edited by JUSTGOINGSLOW; 06-04-2008 at 02:40 PM.

06-03-2008, 06:46 PM	#2
Robb RCC Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: VARCOR Posts: 1,826	No such answer.

06-03-2008, 07:12 PM	#3
bob1961 I wanna be Dave Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Wayne county. PA Posts: 2,507	how i'm thinking of artic is the front axle on the ground is at 0 degrees....the rig standing on it's side on the wheels is 90 degrees, no ....so the rear axle has both wheels on the ground how much would the front axle be tilted with one wheel off the ground to be to much articulation..................bob ....

06-03-2008, 07:30 PM	#4
TylerV Rock Crawler Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Roseville Posts: 560	Shoot for 90, then just add more as you go if you don't like it.

06-04-2008, 01:06 AM	#5
some_guy Quarry Creeper Join Date: May 2007 Location: melbourne, australia Posts: 274	you need to put lower than 40* in the poll for us that like the solid axle feeling 5-10* max, carries a wheel everytime

06-04-2008, 06:37 AM	#7
freetimecrawler Debunking old stereotypes Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 1st and Amistad Posts: 2,260	Some people are being smart asses. Too much articulation can be a bad thing. It's pretty much a personal choice, and driving style. I use another 2.2 tire/wheel, and I like about a tire's height worth of articulation, or maybe a tad more. Not sure what degree that is. I just know it works for me. Trial and error is probably your best bet.

06-04-2008, 06:37 AM	#8
Tupers Rock Crawler Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Great Britain Posts: 935	The height of a coke can probaly about 40.

06-04-2008, 09:37 AM	#16
papasmurf Pebble Pounder Join Date: May 2006 Location: Firestone Posts: 112	I have been playing with my articulation for the last week trying to get it right for me. It took me a few setups to find one I like but mine is around 40 degrees. But I have noticed that some places in my back yard course could use a little less. It all depends on where you are crawling at the time and your personal preferences.

06-04-2008, 02:26 PM	#18
Brainstain Nope.. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Whiteland, Indiana Posts: 1,849	Build the truck with no limitations and super soft springs. Drive it and see what it does. I had a buggy that ran Losi White's all the way around, had about 70* of articulation and worked awesome. On the other hand, I loved my torsion TLT that had about 10 degrees of articulation. It's ALL up to you.

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