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Kratos 05-15-2010 07:42 PM

Everything HR
 
hey all. i would like to start a thread that is all about the hr axles and everything that deals with them. post up

Kratos 05-16-2010 09:48 AM

lol wow nobody wants to post anything hr huh.

Destroyer 05-16-2010 10:29 AM

What do you want people to talk about? Pretty much everything interchanges with berg parts, the C's are clocked slightly more than bergs, they are a little narrower than bergs and slightly lighter. The stock lockers and shafts are junk, the aluminum they are made from doesn't hold threads well, and they need a new upper link mount to replace the axial style ball pivot..

I run stock black berg lockers in mine, super 300's in the front, rc axle master shafts in the rear, VP axial hi-steer knuckles and made my own custom steering setup and upper link mounts.

twisted bender 05-16-2010 12:24 PM

h/r
 
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ok here we go black h/r axles with berg upper link mounts berg axles and axial stub shafts in rear soon to be ckrc 6mm rear kit when it gets here right now has fubar lockouts.front has berg upper link mounts modded ckrc tie rod custom servo mount 300 cvd's vanquish axial zero ackerman knuckles.both axles have berg lockers.electronics consist of jr z9100hv servo [480oz torque] fxr esc punk dig castle bec sr3100 rx dx3r radio.motors are jph 41t with 13t pinion in front 12t in rear.3.5" traxxas big bores with cap mod and external springs on shock rod.t1e rock show with battery skid downtown delrin front links t1e high clearance rears.tires are sedonas with proline stage 2 foams on narrowed .8 dh pro comps.i got rid of all the phillip head screws and replaced with allens.fat bat battery tray on rear.

Kratos 05-16-2010 03:37 PM

all i was wanting people to talk about was the hrs and there setups/ builds. we dont have a specific forum to talk on so i thought i would post one to talk about it was all.

marzzz23 05-17-2010 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 2456884)
What do you want people to talk about? Pretty much everything interchanges with berg parts, the C's are clocked slightly more than bergs, they are a little narrower than bergs and slightly lighter. The stock lockers and shafts are junk, the aluminum they are made from doesn't hold threads well, and they need a new upper link mount to replace the axial style ball pivot..

I run stock black berg lockers in mine, super 300's in the front, rc axle master shafts in the rear, VP axial hi-steer knuckles and made my own custom steering setup and upper link mounts.

any pics of your steering set up? i need to revamp mine and need some ideas. thanx

ncalkrawler 05-17-2010 05:55 PM

As far as steering goes one option is to bolt on a set of berg tubes. Pretty much any berg steering set up will work.

Destroyer 05-17-2010 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by marzzz23 (Post 2459123)
any pics of your steering set up? i need to revamp mine and need some ideas. thanx

No, but it was pretty simple. One side of the servo bolted to my link mount and the other side bolted to a bracket the went to the axle tube. This kept the servo decently low and behind the axle tube for protection. I ran this with normal steering in front of the axle and the VP knuckles. I plan to switch to an 86jeep style setup to get the servo a little lower and run BTA.

marzzz23 05-18-2010 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ncalkrawler (Post 2459166)
As far as steering goes one option is to bolt on a set of berg tubes. Pretty much any berg steering set up will work.

that is an option, but I want to keep the rig narrow, so putting on the berg tubes would kinda defeat the purpose.

twisted bender 05-19-2010 11:41 PM

h/r 86jeep steering mod
 
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finished my 86jeep steering mod today.boy what a difference.also installed ckrc's rear 6mm rear axle mod.heres some pics of the steering mod.

marzzz23 05-20-2010 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by twisted bender (Post 2463263)
finished my 86jeep steering mod today.boy what a difference.also installed ckrc's rear 6mm rear axle mod.heres some pics of the steering mod.

thats awesome but alot of work, i would be afraid to F things up

Kratos 05-20-2010 08:33 PM

looks really good but im not into that much work lol. does your servo get hung up/ hit by the rocks on the underside or do you have a guard you put on it?

Kratos 05-20-2010 08:34 PM

and btw where are those springs pretty good cause id like to try some as long as ill get close to the same reaction out of them as i do my losi golds/ greys

twisted bender 05-20-2010 09:46 PM

h/r steering
 
i tested the new set up today and it made a world of difference better center of gravity side hills and climbs drasticly improved plus the steering is awesome really getting all the advantages of 300's now.the springs work great they are out of a pack of springs at home depot .the servo does not hang low enough to catch it's even with bottom of tube and it has a skid.as far as work it was alot but not that difficult the hardest part was relocating motor.had to move it back a hair and rotate it.

joshsmith512 05-21-2010 12:51 AM

lookin good turned out nice. you used stainles 1/4 rod to make the steering links right?

twisted bender 05-21-2010 10:08 PM

h/r steering
 
changed to stainless 1/4 rod today.

Krakker 05-21-2010 10:31 PM

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I did the 86Jeep mod to my Bully axles and shaved a bit deep my self. One thing I did to cover the crack, was to put some plastic sack around the shaft, slide it back into the tube and put some JB weld over it. It's just enough to keep out debris. A screw drive would work too. Once it's dried, just pull it out and 86 the zip-lock part.

One thing you can do to protect the servo, is to get some Vinyl, or plastic, and use liquid electrical tape to secure it to the bottom. I made a 90* bend in mine and it fits between the axle tube and the servo. I just held it in place with a clamp for a few hrs.

twisted bender 05-21-2010 10:50 PM

h/r steering
 
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i used .040 lexan and a heat gun to build askid to protect motor and servo.these are super easy to make been making these for a while ive made them for bully's berg's and h/r's.as far as sealling i had no gaps between servo and axle tube so i just put a thin layer of rubber cement on the seems just to make sure no dust gets in.when doing this conversion you have to take more out of the case when using a airtronics or high voltage servo or just about any servo over 333oz torquedue to being a little larger than a standard servo.heres a couple pics of skid's.

Kratos 05-22-2010 08:22 PM

thats great stuff thanks for all the good info and pics. they really help us see what your talking about. if i had a decent enough camera and was computer savy i would take some pics of my rig and post it up. my steering setup is kinda like your with the servo mount except mine is on top of the axle and not in it. love it

marzzz23 05-22-2010 08:44 PM

most recent pics of my rig that i could find from right before motorama
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...3/100_1184.jpg





http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...3/100_1188.jpg


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