Is there such a thing as too much articulation?
 

While I'm sure this topic is debatable, I think most would agree that you can have too much and 90 degrees would fall into that category. Too much flex seemed to get mybrig bound up in larger rocks, limiting it a bit helped me to carry a tire over a gap that I would have normally fallen into. I could probably use a touch more flex than what I currently run, the common consensus seems to be about a soda cans worth of flex.

Thats about right. Too much flex and you'll twist your rig into a bind instead of climbing over or around.

The pop can measurement is good for 2.2's, but a super would need more and a mini would need less.

Typically I'll set mine up so that the flex equals the tire height. Meaning that if I'm running Rovers, I'll give it enough flex to clear a Rover. If I'm running Flat Irons, I'll give it enough to clear a Flat Iron.

To echo what others have said, too much will get you into situations you can't get out of.

Good rule of thumb Duuuuude guy

I my mind, too much flex equals loss of downward force on the "upside" tire.

Good to know. I'm a complete noob to crawling so i gave it as much flex as i could. this was the result.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...n/IMAG0134.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...n/IMAG0135.jpg

I guess i'll have to adjust the shocks and shock mounts to limit the flex then right?

You guys related?

Yup. You can also use fuel tubing to limit shock travel.

This is what you want.

http://i30.tinypic.com/qs6ubs.jpg

We are of no relation sir. Only in the meat contents.

Distant cousins at best. lol

:lmao::lmao::lmao:

"bagWad" comes to mind

Duuuude, I can just take out one of the cans from my last pic to make that happen. :) so i need to cut out that much suspension travel? lol, I'm gonna need shorter shocks.

Or i could get to work on that self leveling c02 gas shock system i've been thinking of. damn this hobby is a money pit. :)

It depends, are you building a 2.2 or super? If its a 2.2 then you want pretty close to the pic I posted, if its a super, you'll want more.

If you're happy with your ride height, keep the shocks you have and limit them. The shocks I used in the pic are 4" Losi's limited inside and out.

45-60* is a good goal to shoot for, that usually results in the height of the tire or so, which is a good base.
Instead of shorter shocks, like Dude said, put some fuel tubing on your shock shafts to limit how far they compress "thumbsup"

I'm just building something to have fun with and crawl random things I come across. Basically i would like this thing to be able to crawl whatever rock pile/gravel pit/ landslide i come across with reasonable results. I'm never going to try and compete with this thing for the same reason I'll never try and compete with my stampede 4x4 (what with a good chunk of rc entusiasts being what they are, lol)

Basically I want something to rip over big rocks, cars, dead bodies and the like. I've got a lot of info to work with. :) thanks all.

You could always try and running it as it is. See how it goes and then make some changes. It will help you see what modifications do what. Some times real world testing is better then theory. Some things look like they shouldn't work but they do or fit the driving style of the pilot. And some people have something set some way just because that is how they want it and do not care about general consensus.

What I have found is in order of what others have said here. Enough flex for the height tires you are running is a good measure. But some people run a short tire with a long wheelbase so being able to flex that tire on a longer wheelbase equals less flex then if it were a shorter rig. Look up ramp travel index if you want more info on how that is measured. May not find much on it in this forum as it is mainly used for 1:1 vehicles.

I would try running it and make some changes if you want or have time. it is all about the testing. And every rig and driver is different.

Good luck"thumbsup"

x2 "thumbsup" That right there is all you need.

Is that actualy Lucky Lager beer? I haven't seen a can of that since 20 years ago when I was in high school.:ror: