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rerock · 05-18-2006, 11:10 AM

Can someone please consider machining a full spool and ring gear for TLT axles? The cast aluminum gears just don't hold up. Maybe machine out of a stronger steel so they don't strip out like the stock junk in there right now? Possibly better shafts too? I don't have access to a mill, but surely someone has to. If making ring and pinions, there is always the possibility of different gear ratios if the housing is big enough...

BENDER · 05-18-2006, 11:13 AM

Are you running bearings or bushings?

badger · 05-18-2006, 11:23 AM

I've never had a ring or pinion strip on me. (knock on wood)

ColquittCustom405 · 05-18-2006, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by badger

I've never had a ring or pinion strip on me. (knock on wood)

Yeah? What the hell are you doing to strip them? Next time pick it up and pick a new line

1BadJeepBruiser · 05-18-2006, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by badger

I've never had a ring or pinion strip on me. (knock on wood)

Cant say I have either, I use ball bearings and a thick white lithium paste grease in the gears. There is also a tread somewhere about shimming the pinion gear too which helps. I wouldnt mind have upgraded axles and I will admit that a full spooled gear would be cool

Mike

rerock · 05-18-2006, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ColquittCustom405

Yeah? What the hell are you doing to strip them? Next time pick it up and pick a new line

I've gone through two sets of R&P's now, pinion's got the shim in there to keep it tight, and I've never snapped an axle shaft. So I don't know what I'm doing, but they keep going. I've got bushings in there now; but a TLT sitting here with bearings, so maybe I'll toss those in there and see what happens.

It'd still be nice to have a better quality gearset. It'd reduce weight too.

rockwerks · 05-18-2006, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rerock

I've gone through two sets of R&P's now, pinion's got the shim in there to keep it tight, and I've never snapped an axle shaft. So I don't know what I'm doing, but they keep going. I've got bushings in there now; but a TLT sitting here with bearings, so maybe I'll toss those in there and see what happens.

It'd still be nice to have a better quality gearset. It'd reduce weight too.

you dont want ot reduce weight in the axles..........but higher up.......you wnat the axles heavy!

BENDER · 05-18-2006, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rerock

I've got bushings in there now

I'll bet that's why you're having problems. Bushings wear very quickly. When they do wear, the gear mesh is constantly changing. The mesh will keep seperating until the gears strip. Install ball bearings everywhere, with new ring and pinion gears. That should fix your problem. I've never stripped a ring and pinion in my TLT, and I crawl ALOT.

TwistedCreations · 05-19-2006, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BENDER

I've never stripped a ring and pinion in my TLT, and I crawl ALOT.

That is an understatement

Crawlsalot · 05-19-2006, 08:56 AM

I crawl a lot too.. All I break is axle shafts.

BENDER · 05-19-2006, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Crawlsalot

I crawl a lot too.. All I break is axle shafts.

The Max Climber shafts?

rerock · 05-19-2006, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BENDER

I'll bet that's why you're having problems. Bushings wear very quickly. When they do wear, the gear mesh is constantly changing. The mesh will keep seperating until the gears strip. Install ball bearings everywhere, with new ring and pinion gears. That should fix your problem. I've never stripped a ring and pinion in my TLT, and I crawl ALOT.

Our local vendor (freetimehobbies.com) should be receiving the R&P order today, so I'll rip apart these other TLT axles and swap bushing for bearings. Thanks for the advise, but I still think a machined spooled ring gear would be cool to have.

rockwerks · 05-19-2006, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rerock

Our local vendor (freetimehobbies.com) should be receiving the R&P order today, so I'll rip apart these other TLT axles and swap bushing for bearings. Thanks for the advise, but I still think a machined spooled ring gear would be cool to have.

yep it would be cool but who wnats to spend 100.00 on a needless part?

camoTJ · 05-19-2006, 04:27 PM

I have the same problem... full bearings and keep stripping gears. I have shims I am gonna try that next. not sure what I am doing to them

rockwerks · 05-19-2006, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by camoTJ

I have the same problem... full bearings and keep stripping gears. I have shims I am gonna try that next. not sure what I am doing to them

the shim needs to go between the head of the pinoin gear and the pinion bearing....that will keep it pushed towards the ring gear.

'83 chevy · 05-19-2006, 04:58 PM

i think that would be cool, but what i think they should make is a R&P set with a lower ratio.

rbgerrish · 05-20-2006, 09:34 AM

I've only ever stripped 1 pinion. That's a LOT of TLT axles run.

Shims should help!

camoTJ · 05-20-2006, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by rockwerks

the shim needs to go between the head of the pinoin gear and the pinion bearing....that will keep it pushed towards the ring gear.

yeah I know... I just havent gotten around to puttin new gears in yet, its all in pieces waiting for me to finish the tuber.

rerock · 05-22-2006, 09:51 AM

I put a shim on the pinion already, but now I'm thinking I'm gonna try puting a shim on the axle shaft to push the ring gear over more as well. There seemed to be a bit of sideways slop for the ring gear as well, so hopefully eliminating that will help in the mean time also. I got the bearings in there, and it helped, but didn't totally cure the problem. That's probably due to the fact that the gears are already chewed up.

EGRESSor · 05-23-2006, 01:32 PM

3.2:1 gear ratio and locked and hardened steel

05-18-2006, 11:10 AM	#1
rerock Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 440	Vendors or anyone Can someone please consider machining a full spool and ring gear for TLT axles? The cast aluminum gears just don't hold up. Maybe machine out of a stronger steel so they don't strip out like the stock junk in there right now? Possibly better shafts too? I don't have access to a mill, but surely someone has to. If making ring and pinions, there is always the possibility of different gear ratios if the housing is big enough...

05-18-2006, 11:13 AM	#2
BENDER 2006 2.2 National Champ Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Big Bear Lake Posts: 8,328	Are you running bearings or bushings?

05-18-2006, 11:23 AM	#3
badger Diggin' the new SCX10 II! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Norcal Posts: 11,402	I've never had a ring or pinion strip on me. (knock on wood)

05-19-2006, 08:56 AM	#10
Crawlsalot Rock Crawler Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: wyckoff, NJ Posts: 639	I crawl a lot too.. All I break is axle shafts.

05-19-2006, 04:27 PM	#14
camoTJ Quarry Creeper Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Crawlorado Posts: 333	I have the same problem... full bearings and keep stripping gears. I have shims I am gonna try that next. not sure what I am doing to them

05-19-2006, 04:58 PM	#16
'83 chevy Rock Crawler Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Easthampton Posts: 747	i think that would be cool, but what i think they should make is a R&P set with a lower ratio.

05-20-2006, 09:34 AM	#17
rbgerrish I wanna be Dave Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The Haunted Forest Posts: 3,586	I've only ever stripped 1 pinion. That's a LOT of TLT axles run. Shims should help!

05-22-2006, 09:51 AM	#19
rerock Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 440	I put a shim on the pinion already, but now I'm thinking I'm gonna try puting a shim on the axle shaft to push the ring gear over more as well. There seemed to be a bit of sideways slop for the ring gear as well, so hopefully eliminating that will help in the mean time also. I got the bearings in there, and it helped, but didn't totally cure the problem. That's probably due to the fact that the gears are already chewed up.

05-23-2006, 01:32 PM	#20
EGRESSor RCC Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Germany north Posts: 1,669	3.2:1 gear ratio and locked and hardened steel

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