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crawl-o-matic 03-18-2012 08:35 PM

OTTSIX Pin Tire INPUT NEEDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Would you guys like a near 6" pin style tire? What's your ideal width? Any other ideas...let me know"thumbsup"

JeremyH 03-18-2012 08:40 PM

Re: OTTSIX Pin Tire INPUT NEEDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
6" is too tall, IMO. Just shy of 5.75" is what I'd prefer....

Szczerba 03-18-2012 08:46 PM

Re: OTTSIX Pin Tire INPUT NEEDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I assume you are talking about a 2.2 comp crawler class?

Mounted up and ready to go I would say 5.5"-5.75" tall by 1.75"-2.25" wide.

shelljeep 03-18-2012 08:53 PM

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Big holes need big tires. And noone makes a 6" production tire, so you'd have that segment all to yourself.
I say 6" tall x 1.75-2" wide.
Nice long contact patch rather than wide.
Thin soft sidewalls so the user doesn't have to shave them.

2500hdon37s 03-18-2012 09:25 PM

Re: OTTSIX Pin Tire INPUT NEEDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shelljeep (Post 3636824)
Big holes need big tires. And noone makes a 6" production tire, so you'd have that segment all to yourself.
I say 6" tall x 1.75-2" wide.
Nice long contact patch rather than wide.
Thin soft sidewalls so the user doesn't have to shave them.

a 6in tire with soft sidewalls :shock: thats going to be a sidehilling disaster



I say space the pins out a little farther than other pin tires that are out on the market so they'll grab ledges better.

5.75in x 1.9-2.4in wide and web the sidewalls so they arent rolling over on side hills, and that should make it some what easier to tune with a foam too. maybe have some sort of solid lug spaced very sparsely for better digging and grabbing ledges.

after this tire is released would you look at maybe a 1.9 comp or scale tire?

Szczerba 03-18-2012 09:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 2500hdon37s (Post 3636901)
I say space the pins out a little farther than other pin tires that are out on the market so they'll grab ledges better.
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Not correcting, just mentioning. "thumbsup"

Depends on the tire compound used. If it's a really soft compound and alot of space is between lugs, they'll just fold over and won't do their job.

ScaleFreak93 03-18-2012 09:33 PM

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Imo I would prefer a tire around 5.7" tall and 2.15"-2.25" wide when mounted on a 1" wide wheel.

2500hdon37s 03-18-2012 09:41 PM

Re: OTTSIX Pin Tire INPUT NEEDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Szczerba (Post 3636911)
Not correcting, just mentioning. "thumbsup"

Depends on the tire compound used. If it's a really soft compound and alot of space is between lugs, they'll just fold over and won't do their job.

I think that brings up a good point! I was thinking keep the lugs a little farther apart than say short course pin type tires, but not near as far apart as the old school pin type tires that came on off road buggies. that way the compound isnt a problem of lug folding "thumbsup"

I would also say make the pins a touch taller/ deeper tread than racing style pin tires. (but not too much to where they fold)

weeble163 03-18-2012 09:45 PM

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I say 6" tall x 1.75-2" wide.
siffish side walls many lugs for maximum customization in an off set pattern as so
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J-FAB NOR-CAL 03-18-2012 09:49 PM

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6'' is deffinatly too tall. I would say 5.5'' to 5.7'' max. Width i like too see under 2'' say 1.75'' on a 1'' wheel.Needs too be light weight,a stock white rover with a little wear weighs about 90.3 grams,my shaved ones 88 grams.The trend these days seems to be shaved sidewalls,so a less aggressive and softer sidewall probably would be the ticket.Softer sidewalls can be tuned with foams.And with the pin design,guys can cut,cut,cut to their hearts content.

Thanks Matt for working on a new tire for the comp world.Looking forward too seeing what you come up with."thumbsup"

crawl-o-matic 03-18-2012 10:05 PM

Re: OTTSIX Pin Tire INPUT NEEDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
For sure, 1.9's are on the table!


Quote:

Originally Posted by 2500hdon37s (Post 3636901)
a 6in tire with soft sidewalls :shock: thats going to be a sidehilling disaster



I say space the pins out a little farther than other pin tires that are out on the market so they'll grab ledges better.

5.75in x 1.9-2.4in wide and web the sidewalls so they arent rolling over on side hills, and that should make it some what easier to tune with a foam too. maybe have some sort of solid lug spaced very sparsely for better digging and grabbing ledges.

after this tire is released would you look at maybe a 1.9 comp or scale tire?


holycaveman 03-18-2012 10:48 PM

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I would suggest making the tire a solid 5.5" tall

Width 1.75

Pins a little larger around than the tires currently out there.

Short lugs, NOT tall

Smooth sidewalls.

Great compound.

You will sell a zillion sets"thumbsup"

cooterwrenchen 03-28-2012 09:25 PM

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Id would run them. would a dual compound tire be possible. medium side walls with pins spaced out like1/8 " apart. And a super sticky pin compound on top

opek 03-28-2012 10:25 PM

Re: OTTSIX Pin Tire INPUT NEEDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cooterwrenchen (Post 3655104)
Id would run them. would a dual compound tire be possible. medium side walls with pins spaced out like1/8 " apart. And a super sticky pin compound on top

How about a sticky and soft carcass and a medium pin?

Manning 03-29-2012 06:37 AM

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IMO, the rubber compound is far more important than the tread pattern. Get the rubber right, and they'll sell.

Krawler23 03-29-2012 05:48 PM

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I like the taller tire idea, no one makes one that tall, plus the pins I think tend to sit lower than a lugged design just due to the fact that the lugged hold their shape and don't fold down. I hope that made sense, anyway good luck!

hoghead5150 03-29-2012 06:44 PM

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i'm with most people, 5.5 to 5.75 inches tall mounted on a 1 inch wheel. width 2.2 inch or narrower. i like the idea of a webbed sidewall to help sidehill stability, and if you could duplicate the rubber compound of the panther lepoards that would be awesome. as far as pins go, i think shorter would be better than taller, but i would put as many pins on as possible. this would give the end user the ability to cut/trim to personal taste. and for the love of god, make the bead better than the boss claws for mounting!!

Hittman 03-30-2012 02:22 AM

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I think 6" tall and a width of 2" is perfect. Maybe like a medium/soft compound. That way if people want to shave the sidewalls they can and if people dont, the tire will still perform great.

My ax is set up for 6" tires so that is the main reason i suggested it:mrgreen:

stubs179 03-30-2012 04:32 AM

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I have a set of custom pin tires that are 5.7 x 2" and it is amazing the difference it makes in ground clearance. I wouldn't go any taller as i think you will be getting to much side wall and it will hurt performance.

TSK 03-30-2012 12:23 PM

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- 5.8" tall, 2" wide.
-Thin, smooth sidewals, but have the very outer edge of pins come around the corner where the sidewall and crown meet, so that there s a little bit of grab when the tire is folding onto it's edge.
- Softest compound you can find.
- 2 size pins on one tire.

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