Alternatives to a wraith/bomber?

[Toyotarc]

Any other 1.9 or 2.2 tube chassis rigs that compare to a wraith/bomber?

Basically the reasoning for not getting a bomber or wraith is they are 550$CAD new and need mods out of the box and I'd rather not go on a spending spree.

Found a cheap Twin hammer kit but they are more for higher speeds and not crawling.

Basically I'd like to be able to crawl but still have some top end without costing an arm and a leg.

[MaX-D]

Look into the new axial Capra that's coming out in a few days. Might be what you're looking for, and won't break the bank.

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[Toyotarc]

Originally Posted by MaX-D

Look into the new axial Capra that's coming out in a few days. Might be what you're looking for, and won't break the bank.

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Yeah I have have been looking at the capra. Once it's released and some reviews come out for it I'll see if it will work. It has some pretty good parts on it stock so wouldn't need a ton of junk for it probably.

Not in any rush to buy one so I don't mind waiting.

[TheLetterJ]

What features of a Wraith or Bomber are you wanting to match?

As already said, the new Capra should be able to hang with/surpass the Wraith/Bomber as a crawler. Won't handle at speed as well, largely due to its shorter wheelbase and less sprung weight.

Still in the tube chassis world, there is the Gmade R1. It's kinda like the Capra's older brother, tube chassis, portal axles, capable of both dig and 4 wheel steer. They're neat rigs, but dated by current standards. I personally wouldn't buy one with all the newer/higher performing choices available now.

Also by Gmade, there is the GOM. It is very Bomber-esque, but with some even cooler features (Forward mounted motor, 2 speed, chassis mounted servo, etc) its popularity never really took off, I'm not versed in its downfalls. It certainly looks good on paper, and looks good visually.

What other rc's do you have? Realistically, you can make most crawlers faster (to an extent), so there's a ton of directions you could go if you're willing/wanting to build something instead of buying a rtr/kit. There's many Chinese made steel "tube" chassis' (most are actually solid rod) to choose from if you like the look and just need a base to start from.

[Toyotarc]

Originally Posted by TheLetterJ

What features of a Wraith or Bomber are you wanting to match?

Well I would prefer a 2.2 rig that's why I was thinking of the wraith/bomber. The longer wheelbase is defiantly a bonus. The bomber's optional 2 speed tranny is another thing I would want. Also there's a lot of aftermarket parts for it which obviously is a huge thing compared to some of the older dying ones like a twin hammers.

Originally Posted by TheLetterJ

What other rc's do you have? Realistically, you can make most crawlers faster (to an extent), so there's a ton of directions you could go if you're willing/wanting to build something instead of buying a rtr/kit. There's many Chinese made steel "tube" chassis' (most are actually solid rod) to choose from if you like the look and just need a base to start from.

I have a RC4WD TF2 Yota, 1/12 EXC Barrage, and many 1/24 micros from crawlers to brushless rally cars.

I pretty much want something I can beat on without destroying my TF2.

[xv-townboy]

Don't be so quick to discount that TWH..Check it out bilinvic's Twin Hammers

I love mine and just ordered the GCM Front tray..It is a very versatile litte rig

That being said I have a Capra pre-ordered as well

[dezfan]

GMade GOM gets my vote. 👍🏼

[Toyotarc]

I can pickup a twin hammers kit for 200$CAD , just seems like they don't have a lot of ground clearance. It does save some money for hop up parts though.


I looked into the GOM a little and it does have its own issues like problems with the two speed trans and the CVD's.

[Brake Weight]

R1 chassis with Axial drivetrain. Chinese steel axle housings.

[svt923]

Here is the trouble with the "I really want this but it is too expensive, what can I buy that is like this but cheaper?" method of buying: you are still more than likely to want the original thing you want even after buying that similar thing.

If you really want a Bomber but settle for a $200 Twin Hammers, you still want a Bomber but now have $200 less to buy one and a car that is kinda cool but not what you really wanted. Eventually, you end up buying what you wanted in the first place after spending a bunch of money to learn that lesson.

So, buy the Bomber or Wraith if that is what you actually want even if it means waiting a bit longer. If you have try to convince yourself that (insert other RC) is "close enough" then pass on it. These are lessons a lot of us have learned the hard way.

[JatoTheRipper]

The Bomber is worth the money.

There's also the Losi Rock Rey.

[Xx Losungen xX]

Originally Posted by svt923

Here is the trouble with the "I really want this but it is too expensive, what can I buy that is like this but cheaper?" method of buying: you are still more than likely to want the original thing you want even after buying that similar thing.



If you really want a Bomber but settle for a $200 Twin Hammers, you still want a Bomber but now have $200 less to buy one and a car that is kinda cool but not what you really wanted. Eventually, you end up buying what you wanted in the first place after spending a bunch of money to learn that lesson.



So, buy the Bomber or Wraith if that is what you actually want even if it means waiting a bit longer. If you have try to convince yourself that (insert other RC) is "close enough" then pass on it. These are lessons a lot of us have learned the hard way.

Best advice I've seen in a long time. Settling just leads to spending more in the long run.

[smog]

I love the Twin Hammers platform, it’s versatile and rugged. I have several of themI also really enjoy the Bomber, but it’s a completely different animal. I don’t find them the least bit similar. If you desire a 2.2 rig then get the Bomber and don’t look back. It’s cool, everyone should have one in my opinion !

[Toyotarc]

Well I ended up getting the last twin hammers kit in stock

Hard to pass up on a kit that normal retails 360$CAD and I do enjoy building the kits. I really like my 1/24 brushless rally truck so I imagine this one will be even better since I got ground clearance to run it on gravel and stuff.

They are defiantly different animals than a bomber but that doesn't mean I can't get a bomber later on too. Just gotta sell off some of my micros as they are worth there weight in gold lol.

[TheLetterJ]

Originally Posted by Brake Weight

R1 chassis with Axial drivetrain. Chinese steel axle housings.

I know it's too late, but I'm a fan of this idea. I built an R1 frankencrawler a few years ago using Redcat MOA axles and it was a great, cheap car. I had considered throwing AR60's under an R1 but just never followed through. It wouldn't be class 3 legal then (too wide relative to the cage) but who cares? It would be a fun car and could be setup to crawl well and handle some decent speed. Bilinvic's R1 comes to mind. Of course, 10.2 axles would make more sense now.

Originally Posted by bilinvic

... I also shortened the wheelbase to 13 3/8". I haven't run this machine in a while...hopefully soon.

[Toyotarc]

That gmade looks pretty sweet from billnvic and defiantly cheaper than the other options. I will probably end up trying to find a roller or something with a good platform to start to save some of the BS of garbage parts and the obvious 50% saving when I throw away half of the parts on it.

Defiantly no rush now, gotta sell off some old RC's

[Jim85IROC]

The RGT Rock Hammer is a Wraith/Bomber-ish type of truck made by HSP. It's very similar to the now-defunct Force RC Hammer Jaw.

I ended up getting a Hammer Jaw when they went on clearance for $130, and to be honest, I'm pretty impressed with it. It definitely isn't the same quality as my Bomber, but it will go almost all of the same places. The only upgrades I've made to it so far were to install metal lockers and a better servo. My only existing complaint is that it's under powered with the stock brushed motor on 2S. It really needs 3S (which requires a new ESC).

The Rock Hammer can be found for around $200. It's not equal in quality to a Wraith or Bomber, but I think it's well worth the money.

[Toyotarc]

Originally Posted by Jim85IROC

The RGT Rock Hammer is a Wraith/Bomber-ish type of truck made by HSP. It's very similar to the now-defunct Force RC Hammer Jaw.

The Rock Hammer can be found for around $200. It's not equal in quality to a Wraith or Bomber, but I think it's well worth the money.

Looks OK for a cheap crawler but I have been down the cheap route before. Obviously if your not expecting wraith quality then you will enjoy it for the price you got it for.

I had a WPL c14 and tried to add some mods to it but it was trash, mind you it was defiantly a toy grade truck.

Also got a 1/12 EXC barrage which is basically same brand as RGT. I bought it as my first crawler when it first came out and it worked great for the price! Now it only has a 390 motor and many 1/18 grade parts and a cheap esc but can't expect much more for the price. Problem comes when I want more from it and I can't upgrade anything without risking breaking stuff.

[Jim85IROC]

Originally Posted by Toyotarc

Looks OK for a cheap crawler but I have been down the cheap route before. Obviously if your not expecting wraith quality then you will enjoy it for the price you got it for.

I had a WPL c14 and tried to add some mods to it but it was trash, mind you it was defiantly a toy grade truck.

Also got a 1/12 EXC barrage which is basically same brand as RGT. I bought it as my first crawler when it first came out and it worked great for the price! Now it only has a 390 motor and many 1/18 grade parts and a cheap esc but can't expect much more for the price. Problem comes when I want more from it and I can't upgrade anything without risking breaking stuff.

It is cheap. If you want something not so cheap, just buy the Wraith or Bomber.

[MrAMath]

If you search Amazon for Gmade R1 you find lots of partial sets of R1s. Like just the chassis and plates or just the axles. Lots of different Gmade shocks and tons of aftermarket aluminum, too. I know the GOM kit comes in a couple flavors, the best having the upgraded parts

I haven't posted final photos of my R1 (4ws and dig). The portal axles seem nice so far. I haven't put it up against mine or my buddy's bomber. Next time we go out, I'll try. I need to post a photo of them compared to scx10 axles, too.

One thing that I liked about the R1 that also kinda sucked was the use of screws and nuts. No machine screw had to thread into plastic. Everything is held together by nylon lock nuts. I don't have to worry about stripping plastic during a reassembly. I used the RC screwz kit. They included far more than necessary lock nuts. They could have used the ones from the kit and only supplied screws. All the kit screws are Phillips head.