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Old 02-14-2021, 06:06 AM   #1
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Default Winch or no winch? I don't really use them...

I had a H.O.G. (Hand of God) servo winch on my TRX4 for about 8 months. Used it about 3 times and that was it. It looks cool, but practically it was slow to unwind and sometimes the winch controller would hesitate or go the wrong way. I drive alone and not in comps or with buddies.

I'm making a new build on my TRX4 and refreshing the electronics, and thinking about just forgetting about adding a winch to my rigs. They look cool, but they add unnecessary weight up top (bad CG), extra wires and components makes the chassis look cluttered and more difficult to clean after mud runs etc. I see more CONS than PROS in adding a winch, for my specific case.

I was thinking of adding a winch to my enduro trailrunner too but I think I prefer without a winch. If I drove with buddies or go to comps I would definitely add one.

Anyone else decide to leave out winches?
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Old 02-14-2021, 06:19 AM   #2
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I don't have a winch on any of my trucks.
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Old 02-14-2021, 06:43 AM   #3
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I’ve got both.
Controlled with a HeyOK winch controller, zero issues with it, but I added a guide to stop erratic spooling due to slack. Another rig is running a HW1060 esc to control the winch.

Great fun, not really practical unless comping for points.

Functional? Yep. Needed? Nope

My latest Sherpa chassis don’t need no stinking winch!



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Old 02-14-2021, 07:59 AM   #4
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Beat me to it.

Servo winch if you wanted to do a winch again. All you need is a fairlead and some eyes and you can mount it anywhere a servo will tuck out of the way.
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Old 02-14-2021, 08:30 AM   #5
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Where I comp they do a Class 1 SORCCA so I have a winch on my Class 1. For the other classes they don't do the point thing so I use bungies on those RCs. I prefer scale winches if you are building a scale RC.

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Old 02-14-2021, 08:49 AM   #6
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I don't comp but I run winches on most of my trail rigs, I use servo boards to control mine. I buy four packs of the MG995 Towerpro continuous rotation servos from Amazon for around $20, desolder the board from the motor then solder the appropriate connector to the board. Connect to your winch and you're done, $5 winch control with no creep, works great. I usually conformal coat these then shrink wrap, just didn'tdo this one yet.



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I don’t comp and I don’t winch. Seems I contemplate winches every time I build a new rig, but never bother. Likely because i would only be putting one in for looks. It’s more ‘stuff’ that, as has been mentioned, clutters the chassis. I don’t like clutter.
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Old 02-14-2021, 09:08 AM   #8
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You could try a kinetic winch.
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Old 02-14-2021, 09:32 AM   #9
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You could try a kinetic winch.
Are you speaking of the DSM Self-recovery-system? (ie; bungee)?

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Old 02-14-2021, 11:15 AM   #10
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The DSM Self-Recovery system is amazing. Just transitioned from the strap only to the full system, and I love it. It can be deployed in seconds, so I actually use it-- and I don't crawl competitively. Gets used pretty much every time I'm out.
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The DSM Self-Recovery system is amazing. Just transitioned from the strap only to the full system, and I love it. It can be deployed in seconds, so I actually use it-- and I don't crawl competitively. Gets used pretty much every time I'm out.
Yup. Didn't feel like trying to cram a winch into my Capra, so I went with a kinetic winch, its simple and seems to work well.

There is a hair to be split on if it counts for scale points, but I think scale points are a complete load of BS for anything other than C1.
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Old 02-14-2021, 02:35 PM   #12
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I guess you have three choices since you already have the winch. 1. Install it. 2. Toss it in a box to collect dust. 3. Sell it. Of the three I think I would try to sell it.
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Still cracks me up to hear a bungee cord called the kinetic winch/rope/system. I need to come up with a better name for my foot since it does most of my recovery haha


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Still cracks me up to hear a bungee cord called the kinetic winch/rope/system. I need to come up with a better name for my foot since it does most of my recovery haha


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Yep, I like my kinetic winch/rope/system. Mine is actual a skinny bungee with a big treble hook with one prong cut off and the barb filed off. I used supper glue, fishline and a back electric heat shrink to attach things. I have a short one attached to the winch line on my class 1 and longer ones on my other RCs. And no they shouldn't get scale points.

I use an axle bearing a bolt and big washer for the retractable part.
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I don’t comp and I don’t winch. Seems I contemplate winches every time I build a new rig, but never bother. Likely because i would only be putting one in for looks. It’s more ‘stuff’ that, as has been mentioned, clutters the chassis. I don’t like clutter.

Yup, same here. thinking one would look cool on all my rigs, but I would never use them so it would be a waste of money. (I don’t comp)




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I don’t mind the look but they sure do compromise approach angle when mounted on a bumper. If you’re building a kitchen sink scaler complete with little chickens and oils drums it is a must have tho. Mine is now a prop in my garage diorama lol


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I don’t mind the look but they sure do compromise approach angle when mounted on a bumper. If you’re building a kitchen sink scaler complete with little chickens and oils drums it is a must have tho. Mine is now a prop in my garage diorama lol
Chickens AND a winch? Where are you taking your chickens to?
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I don’t mind the look but they sure do compromise approach angle when mounted on a bumper. If you’re building a kitchen sink scaler complete with little chickens and oils drums it is a must have tho. Mine is now a prop in my garage diorama lol


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Same with bumpers that run the length of the windshield, fenders cover a certain amount of the tires, certain size tires. Or having to deal with shock hoop rules. Why waist weight on metal bumpers when plastics ones are fine, why have bumpers at all? Interiors are a waste of weight and don't forget the added weight of a hard body. Some crazy people even run leaf springs.

Just build a straight up performance rig and not worry about scale.

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The only Winch i end up using are the free spooling type....otherwise it takes too long to deploy.
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Same with bumpers that run the length of the windshield, fenders cover a certain amount of the tires, certain size tires. Or having to deal with shock hoop rules. Why waist weight on metal bumpers when plastics ones are fine, why have bumpers at all? Interiors are a waste of weight and don't forget the added weight of a hard body. Some crazy people even run leaf springs.

Just build a straight up performance rig and not worry about scale.

That escalated quickly lol
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