A swedish Venture... I was thinking about getting myself a TRX-4 but I got a good deal on a Venture so I ended up with one of these instead :mrgreen: So, I got it yesterday and I started working on it right away... I took all the electronic components from my old Kyx (axial-clone) and swapped in, which are Futaba 3PV transmitter Hobbywing Axe 1800kv brushless system Alturn USA Servo AHBS-2407HTG-HV Need to do some "cleaning" up of the wires but just wanted to see if everything works before starting to cutting/shortening anything. The round box is a swedish snuff-box in which I put the external bec and the controller for my winch. Also but som nuts in as "spacers" to get the servo further down in order to use a normal aluminium servo arm instead of the stock servo saver. https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...aa&oe=5CF57C47 https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...bf&oe=5CE1E449 For wheels and tires I went with Proline Hyrax'es on Traxxas wheels. Plastic wheels with aluminium rings. Reason for that is that I think they look good and I could buy them directly at work. Put som lead weights on the rims in the front https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...4f&oe=5CF2BE51 So far no other options, just went crazy with stickers on the body, a yeah racing light bar, yeah racing spare wheel cover, winch in the front (only test mounted with tape so far) and lights front and rear. For the headlights I got inspiration from Hemistorm on youtube and used some proline light buckets. Only tested it on the floor indoors so far but it seems so much more nimble than my old Kyx/scx clone. Will take the maiden voyage this sunday, can't wait :) https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...63&oe=5CEAB5A7 https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...ee&oe=5CE61420 https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...d0&oe=5CEA5C96 I have ordered the CVD's, brass axle weights, 4-link rear suspension and aluminium lower links from HPI, not sure when they will arrive though. Also my friend have printed a LCG battery tray that I will get by next week. Maybe I'll get the SSD brass knuckles etc further on. And most likely another body, even though I think the cruiser is pretty cool :mrgreen: |
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I am liking the look you got going on there "thumbsup" you want with some nice upgrades. Will be watching to see where you go with this. Trying to get my hands on a kit but no luck yet. What size are the Hyrax looks like they look really good on there "thumbsup" |
Re: A swedish Venture... A tobacco "tin" as an electronics box! :lmao: Nice ride though. "thumbsup" |
Re: A swedish Venture... Carpet: Thanks! Yeah I like the green with The gun metal body, might ending up paiting the axle housings green as well! Was thinking about The SBK too but got a good deal on this and did not want to wait :) Jato: Haha yep, was the only small plastic container that would fit them both inside that I had around at the moment :D |
Re: A swedish Venture... Did you trim your fenders, or are those class 1 sized Hyrax tires? |
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Re: A swedish Venture... Maiden voyage done today! Really happy with how the car handles, maybe a bit top heavy but that will be adressed soon with new battery tray and axle weights :) The axe 1800kv combo gave the Venture huge power and a pretty insane top speed for a car like this, pretty fun though to get it to jump..! And the Hyrax tires works really good, felt like I had traction on all of the surfaces I put them up against today. Ended up drowning my BEC and loosing the screw that holds the servo arm (I took the one holding the spare wheel arm, that's why it's missing in some photos...) in place, but that's not the cars fault :mrgreen: Some photos to go along with that, seems like I forgot to take some photos of some of the more real "crawling" we did though... https://scontent.fgse1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...a6&oe=5D243CC5 https://scontent.fgse1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...9a&oe=5D1F6925 https://scontent.fgse1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...18&oe=5CE0E89A https://scontent.fgse1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...04&oe=5CEF77E9 https://scontent.fgse1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...23&oe=5CDE3E9D https://scontent.fgse1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...90&oe=5CDED140 https://scontent.fgse1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...ad&oe=5CE75335 https://scontent.fgse1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...42&oe=5CDA38AA https://scontent.fgse1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...d2&oe=5D2447AB https://scontent.fgse1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...59&oe=5CE1547E https://scontent.fgse1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...85&oe=5D252D38 https://scontent.fgse1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...02&oe=5CDF6DEB https://scontent.fgse1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...68&oe=5CE692D1 https://scontent.fgse1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...33&oe=5D1B3A88 https://scontent.fgse1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...40&oe=5CDE768F |
Re: A swedish Venture... Hobbgywing is a nice setup and the rig is looking so well |
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Re: A swedish Venture... Holy crap! 1800kv has some serious power for a scale truck, nicely done.. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk |
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Re: A swedish Venture... We had in our shop 8 pcs, we have one left, they did sold very quick |
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Re: A swedish Venture... Turns out my hobbywing BEC survived the drowning after spending a couple of being on a radiator (think that is what is called at least...)! So the wiring below are just temporary for trying out the bec and the new "layout" for the electronics. As I mentioned, I did some "upgrades" to the car. First of I got the 3d printed LCG battery tray and the chassis brace to go along with it. This gave me the idea of moving the receiver along with the BEC and winch-controller backwards onto the brace where the battery used to be. https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...54&oe=5D23FA63 https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...ab&oe=5D164D3F Secondly I got the brass axle weights from HPI in both the front and rear axles https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...f4&oe=5D209E69 Then I got some yeah racing 15mm hex widener. Not sure if they will do any good but in my mind they should make the car more stable when tilting sideways. Please give me feedback on this! :) https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...cd&oe=5CE14E49 https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...6a&oe=5D22065C Finally I also got a "high clearance" rear bumper, also found on thingverse that my friend printed for me. I do like the look of the stock one better and this have no mount for the spare tire, but it should improve "performance" a great bit with the higher clearance along with loosing the weight in back of the spare wheel. https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...27&oe=5CDA853B https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...cb&oe=5CE5296E Most likely I wont have any time to try it out with these new upgrades untill next weekend though... :cry: |
Re: A swedish Venture... If you look on my SBK build thread there are 2 screws that go through the axle housing to stop the brass weights hitting the diff bearings. I'm not toally sure why they are there, but must be some reason. Also wide hexes put more strain on the bearings, but if you can live with that and the truck drives better carry on. "thumbsup" |
Re: A swedish Venture... Really apreciate the input and feedback guys! @Natedog Thanks! I like the idea of making it look a bit wider but I get what you mean! I have HPI's own inner fenders on back order so that is happening as soon as they arrive (even though "soon" might be another 2 months acording to the scsndinavian supplier...). :) @M1tch Had a another look on your build now, nerver noticed those screws on mine :/ going for a drive today so I'll look into that when I do the maintanence after that! Makes sense with wideners causing more strain too, will have to see if it's worth it after the first test with them today :) Bearings are easy to come by at work if so at least :D |
Re: A swedish Venture... So I got to drive quite a bit yesterday at two different locations. One of them (the forest-looking one in he pictures) I have been to quite alot in the past with my SCX10 gen 1 and Kyx (scx10 gen 1 clone) so this served as a very good "reference" on how the truck performed compared to my other two. And I must say, I'm super impressed with the HPI! Everything the Kyx and SCX10 could do the HPI did better as well as being able to pass some obstacles the other two never managed. Also, the few upgrades I did seems to have been good to with the truck being less keen on falling over backwards on the slopes, being a bit more stable when tilting sideways. All in all, very happy so far! Looking forward to getting the metal links (or if I end up making some myself) and the CVD's. Might be adding a bit more weight to the axles or wheels at some point to get a little lower center of gravity too. As usual I realize I should have taken more/better photos but here's some atleast https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...12&oe=5D1297AD https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...bd&oe=5D14F1CD https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...98&oe=5D272AAF https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...b9&oe=5D085276 https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...a7&oe=5D267C18 https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...37&oe=5D246A60 https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...51&oe=5D0F4BA1 https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...7d&oe=5D090EE3 https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...5f&oe=5D0E21EE |
Re: A swedish Venture... Took the venture out today and created an "event" for local crawlers, pretty decent turnout with 11 trucks in total! :) Truck worked great as always right up till when I broke the front axle housing :cry: Mostly my own fault though I would say. Car ended up on the side and I tried to get it back on the wheels by using the throttle. So big power (brushless 1800kv on 3s) and decent amount of power combined with a stupid driver... :mrgreen: Already ordered them in brass from Amain now which I hope will hold up better for my sometimes wreckless driving along with providing more LCG (also ordered some other "fun stuff", more on that once I get it). Some pics from today https://scontent.fgse1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...ab&oe=5D33D3AB https://scontent.fgse1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...fa&oe=5D772654 https://scontent.fgse1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...79&oe=5D659650 https://scontent.fgse1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...3a&oe=5D6C27C6 https://scontent.fgse1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...73&oe=5D6B3071 https://scontent.fgse1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...fc&oe=5D2D2A02 https://scontent.fgse1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...e3&oe=5D6D197A https://scontent.fgse1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...44&oe=5D702002 https://scontent.fgse1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...db&oe=5D391851 |
Re: A swedish Venture... Awe no pics of the carnage, shucks. What Brass axles are you referring to, I couldn't find any on Amain. I would just add regarding running a wider wheel hex it does make steering harder as the path the widened wheel takes is longer which i believe relates to scrub radius. The other thing with this is it may be swinging the wheel into the body work hitting the fenders. You also mentioned this truck being geared a bit high which I can attest to, I made a new motor mount to get lower gearing options (down to a 10T pinion) http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/hpi-v...tor-mount.html |
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Re: A swedish Venture... Have no pictures of the wreckage right now, but the parts that broke were this (sorry if you got me wrong, might be that english is not my first language) https://www.hpiracing.com/en/part/116868 So I've ordered them in brass from Amain Another question, do anyone know how the bowhouse skidplate "work"? Does it simply raise the gearbox a bit higher up to get rid of the "hump" underneath the car? Thing is that if I were to order one from ebay the shipping to Sweden would be more expensive than the part itself and that feels kinda stupid. I'm have some experience with 3d modelling in Autodesk inventor so I'm thinking that maybe I could just take all the measurements from the stock transmission plate and draw up something similar and have my friend print it for me. |
Re: A swedish Venture... The bowhouse skid is flat bottom so does raise the transfer case a bit. It has the upper link mounts built in, so the stock mounts are redundant. Problem is although it's a bit more clearance, being flat it can bottom out sometimes. A V shape may actually be better. The only photo I have is this one from above. ]https://live.staticflickr.com/7864/3...349651e2_o.jpg |
Re: A swedish Venture... Add to that. If you did come up with something, I would be interested, but can't 3D print. A slight 'V' in the bottom might be a good idea to help the truck tilt if bottomed out. |
Re: A swedish Venture... Found a pic of the bottom of the skid, but only as a 'group' photo of all the chassis parts. It's top left. If you want some more photos let me know. https://live.staticflickr.com/7890/4...fda64e07_o.jpg[/url] |
Re: A swedish Venture... Break over angle in the chassis with weight forward should be beneficial to have flat smooth skir |
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Ah thats a C-hub and knuckles up front, lockouts for the rear. I have both skids in front of me though the BowHouse skid is installed at the moment. I'd say that they are pretty much identical aside from the hump on the stock skid and the integrated link mounts on the BowHouse skid. Of course the BowHouse skid is flat on the bottom, and I think the only alteration you'll need to make is to raise the transfer case up high enough so you can have the flat bottom on the skid. So it should be as easy as duplicating the stock skid dimensions then raising the mount point of the transfer case. BowHouse didn't just raise the transfer case directly upwards, they rotated it a bit raising the passenger side more than the driver side (for left hand drive). I assume to keep it as low as possible. Quote:
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Re: A swedish Venture... Sorry for late reply, been a busy weekend! Ok so I might try to do a skidplate later on If I get a 3d program tog work on ny crappy laptop... thinking about either just raising the whole gearbox sligthtly (brass down low on the axles should compensate for this I think) or make it same as the stock one but making the bottom flat around The hump. Might take a while until I get around ro get into this though. Thanks for the ideas and input so far though :) @HumboldtEF: correct c-hubs and knuckles broke. Rear was fine but got those in brass too. Got my stuff from amain today and have it all installed on the car, Will try to get the pictures on herr tomorrow :) |
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Re: A swedish Venture... Never tried the browser based ones though, might be worth looking into at some point :) First of, the wreckage https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...5f&oe=5D595758 Then some (crappy) photos of the updates, my phone camera did not want to focus properly... https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...e2&oe=5D63FE5D https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...42&oe=5D6FB52F https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...f7&oe=5D725E36 https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...35&oe=5D70DF61 https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...bc&oe=5D2F125E Now weighing in at close to 3.7kilos, though this is my least heavy set of wheels. (not sure how many pounds that is) https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...ec&oe=5D72A4EE |
Re: A swedish Venture... Well at least it was a fairly easy fix. Not sure how much my Venture weighs. I will get it on the scales sometime soon now the body is finished. 3.68Kg is 8Lbs 2 ounces. |
Re: A swedish Venture... Thanks for the carnage pics of knuckle and c-hub. Wow 3.68kg is a heavy Venture, aluminum c-hubs and knuckles would probably be more durable than brass. |
Re: A swedish Venture... Yeah, big damage but easy fix :) Aluminium might be durable but brass should be better than plastic (I hope). Yeah it's pretty heavy! But I'm thinking about even more brass parts, like the lower suspension mounts and diff covers :D |
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I tried to focus on lightweight with my Venture and its 6 lbs 10.6 oz (3.02 KG) but I have added weighted knuckles, beef tubes up front stock axle weights in back and heavier diff covers. Last night I was honestly looking over your build trying to figure out were all the extra weight came from. If you do look into diff covers I would recommend trying to get a set with better contours, I found the stock ones were holding me back/getting hung up. I posted up a bit of commentary and some pictures in my build thread http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/hpi-v...ml#post5932313 I personally try not to add too much (brass) weight. At a certain point it becomes a penalty and gets more and more difficult for the truck to push itself up and over more difficult obstacles. That said ultimate performance doesn't always matter, just do what you like. |
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Always fun with ideas and feedback :) Regarding weight I guess the hobbywing combo is quite heavy too, as well my battery. I might be completely wrong with going for a heavy truck, though! Going to try it out this weekend hopefully :) Never thought about the counters of the diff cover, that actually makes a lot of sense! Might have to look into that too |
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