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Fungi 08-28-2012 07:43 AM

Rims with an offset...
 
If a guy were able to make some beadlock rims from ABS or Polycarbonate any offset could be applied to the hex hub connector. No need for axle wideners, you get the wider stance just by throwing the rims/tires onto the rig. Not sure if chrome finish could be done on a small scale, but they could certainly be painted.

What offset would be most popular? 1/4" more?

What would be a popular design of the face of the rim? Literally anything could be done, and to scale.

Several designs could be done with different looks and offsets. :)

Looking for constructive input. I won't be able to start production for several months yet. :(

Sh0rtBus 08-28-2012 08:25 AM

Re: Rims with an offset...
 
Not certain what offset would be ideal, but I definitely want to keep an eye on this thread. I know I just put a set of RC4WD aluminum beadlocks on my Trekker and it definitely increased the stance by a bit. Not sure how much since I didn't measure, but it's a noticeable difference.

The Mechanic 08-28-2012 01:16 PM

Re: Rims with an offset...
 
How bout some old school slot mags!
http://i951.photobucket.com/albums/a...thCA852VKL.jpg

or some troq thrust five spoke!

http://i951.photobucket.com/albums/a...cfan/37934.jpg

Fungi 08-28-2012 01:48 PM

Re: Rims with an offset...
 
Ah the classics, of course!

Some simple old school utilitarian examples like these Unimog tires and wheels could be interesting...

http://unimogshop.com/wp-content/upl...54-500x375.jpg

http://forumbilder.se/images/bd52011102811ee57.jpg

Thanks for the feedback.

Sh0rtBus 08-28-2012 02:15 PM

Re: Rims with an offset...
 
As far as wheel faces....soft 8's are always a winner. Could maybe try some Walker Evans beadlocks, even though they're available in 1.9. Spyderloks are a pretty decent choice as well. Raceline Monsters....there are really plenty of choices since we don't really have any for the micro class.

Madjones 08-28-2012 02:42 PM

Re: Rims with an offset...
 
fungi the C.A.D. work your budy did is awesome!!! im sure the two of you could come up with some really cool rims......

i do like the idea of an offset rim as long as its not crazy over priced $$$$..

there would have to be a couple of sizes (1/4,5/16,3/8 ?). cause everyone has different builds."thumbsup"

for what type rim, there are just some many of rims to choose from:shock:....

Fungi 08-28-2012 03:39 PM

Re: Rims with an offset...
 
Thanks for the good input! It's true anything is possible.

Madjones, Here is the latest of the cad work. It is essentially done. Now we start the fun process of seeing what is possible. I sort of jumped the gun on all of this due to extreme impatience... Just gotta get the darn shop finished. :/

http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/...1/image004.jpg

DANALLY 08-28-2012 07:48 PM

Re: Rims with an offset...
 
There would need to be two offsets minimum. I would say for rigs with stock size tires make one that is 1/4" additional offset per rim from stock. Then a rim with the offset of the Danally rim mod for those who run Miclaws. I think it's closer to 1/2" I am traveling so I can't confirm.

I have a buddy that has been toying with me about doing rims. He has the tools to make them easy. He found some plastic round rod that was close to the same diameter as a stock rim. He plans on setting some up and making some blanks. The only thing is that he plans on only doing them plain...no design. I will ask him where he is at on it and see if he can send me some pics. His biggest problem right now is figuring how to do the hex cut out. I think he's going to try the first set with just a groove cut in it for the wheel pin. They wouldn't require any wheel hex...which I like as long as the rim is the width and offset I want.

Midlife Crisis 08-28-2012 08:01 PM

Re: Rims with an offset...
 
Heck, wider than the Danally Mod! I run that AND wideners and still almost rub my bent upper links. This is totally off subject, but I wish someone would manufacture wider housings/inners to keep the scrub radius down. Things are getting way out past the knuckle kingpins and it is affecting performance.

Fungi 09-24-2012 12:15 PM

Re: Rims with an offset...
 
Here's a teaser image of a Fuel Gauge Rim we are tearing into...

http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2e0a1205.jpg

DANALLY 09-24-2012 01:09 PM

Re: Rims with an offset...
 
So are you guys going to market these? I was working on some too but will drop it if you guys are.

Fungi 09-24-2012 01:24 PM

Re: Rims with an offset...
 
It's a go, but we are still a ways away from having products. My style is to show all the progress. Some are too impatient and just find my posts annoying. lol Especially while I work on finishing the building that the 3D printer will go into. :P

I would never suggest anyone not work on their projects due to me. ;) However, the farther into this project I get, the more I think there's nothing preventing it from working."thumbsup"

Slambaam 09-24-2012 02:53 PM

Re: Rims with an offset...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fungi (Post 3932139)
It's a go, but we are still a ways away from having products. My style is to show all the progress. Some are too impatient and just find my posts annoying. lol Especially while I work on finishing the building that the 3D printer will go into. :P

I would never suggest anyone not work on their projects due to me. ;) However, the farther into this project I get, the more I think there's nothing preventing it from working."thumbsup"


who ever gets annoyed with your posts are seriously brain dead. Im pumped to see your progress. this is the kinda stuff that will keep OUR micros alive!

DANALLY 09-24-2012 04:53 PM

Re: Rims with an offset...
 
I went to a friends house and worked on a end lathe for a few hours and was able to turn 1 1/4" black delrin rod into a few nice rims. It is easy to make them multiple offsets. My biggest challenge it duplicating the cuts. After a while I worked it out to measurements and I think I can turn out a set of 4 rims in about an hour. If I had lots to do I could make more than that in stages.
I also had to come up with a way to do the hex...so I just took a press and heated an outer axle with pin and press fit the drive groove into the rim. This removed the need for a hex but limits what can be done with the rim as no additional wideners can be added.

Anyway, I don't want to go spend $500 on a end lathe and then another $200 on accessories just to find out there is another rim on the market that does the same thing.

I wish you good luck and hope that yours turn out well. If for some reason it falls through I might pick up where I left off. Good luck "thumbsup"

gbean 09-24-2012 07:29 PM

Re: Rims with an offset...
 
This looks promising....

MGCrawler 09-24-2012 07:44 PM

Re: Rims with an offset...
 
I hope this works out for you guys! I want some new micro wheels and those fuel gauge rims look awesome!

Fungi 09-25-2012 07:42 AM

Re: Rims with an offset...
 
Here is an image of the tuber with rough draft rims. I see some changes I want to see implemented, but it is awesome to see these drawn up. This image has the .125" offset rims. Yes we can make the offset more, .250", .375", maybe even .500".

We are also looking at other rims made byFuel, Dick Cepek, BMF, Mickey Thompson, etc.

I need to get my buddy some other tires to draw up.


Enjoy...

http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/...offsetrims.jpg

Fungi 09-25-2012 07:54 AM

Re: Rims with an offset...
 
So here's an issue. It really complicates the design to retain the ability to use the factory wheel weights, the ones that are in two pieces and fit around the center of the rim. I first wanted to maintain this ability, but the rims could be made to look much more accurate if we ditch this ability. Copper or lead wire could still be wrapped up for added weight. Thoughts?...

Slambaam 09-25-2012 08:06 AM

Re: Rims with an offset...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fungi (Post 3933426)
So here's an issue. It really complicates the design to retain the ability to use the factory wheel weights, the ones that are in two pieces and fit around the center of the rim. I first wanted to maintain this ability, but the rims could be made to look much more accurate if we ditch this ability. Copper or lead wire could still be wrapped up for added weight. Thoughts?...


screw the factory wheel weights!

gbean 09-25-2012 08:08 AM

I don't really care, because that last picture blew my mind, and I don't use those wheel weights.

Sent from my SGSII E4GT


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