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Chilli39 12-21-2017 05:09 PM

Scx10II TRAIL honcho
 
I am certainly very happy to see the prices on the new scx10II trail honcho

Does anyone have one yet

How does it stack up compared to other trail crawlers out there right now
Now I am not gonna lie I was seriously thinking about getting a redcat gen7pro
But at a 70 difference I could get a Axiel scx10II
I just may go with Axiel instead.

Because of their prices I have always wanted to buy something cheaper than Axiel or Traxxas

But now I am thinking of product support and Axiel has excellent support for their products

What does everyone think I would like to find out "thumbsup"

Heroesneverquit 12-21-2017 06:02 PM

Re: Scx10II TRAIL honcho
 
I was looking into getting the trail honcho but it has different axles. The axles have plastic gears and from what I have been told there is no way to upgrade them to metal gears. The suspension links are also plastic. Just some things to think about. If you end up having an issue with the axle gears your going to end up having to buy new axles.

hillbillyrc 12-21-2017 06:34 PM

Re: Scx10II TRAIL honcho
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Heroesneverquit (Post 5778613)
I was looking into getting the trail honcho but it has different axles. The axles have plastic gears and from what I have been told there is no way to upgrade them to metal gears. The suspension links are also plastic. Just some things to think about. If you end up having an issue with the axle gears your going to end up having to buy new axles.

Sorry, but your wrong about plastic gears.
straight from axials site
The ring gear/locker is a single-unit piece made of strong sintered metal, and the pinion is CNC cut for durability
You can check for yourself.
Axial Racing - SCX10 II

durok 12-21-2017 07:33 PM

Re: Scx10II TRAIL honcho
 
Plenty more info and discussion on this vehicle here:

http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/axial...l-website.html

Heroesneverquit 12-23-2017 12:49 AM

Re: Scx10II TRAIL honcho
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hillbillyrc (Post 5778627)
Sorry, but your wrong about plastic gears.
straight from axials site
The ring gear/locker is a single-unit piece made of strong sintered metal, and the pinion is CNC cut for durability
You can check for yourself.
Axial Racing - SCX10 II

Well shit. To be honest I didn't look. Someone else on the Axial RC facebook group said it and I took it at face value. So whats the real difference then between the trail honchos axles and the standard AR44 axles?

durok 12-23-2017 02:39 AM

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Honcho II:

http://www.axialracing.com/assets/pr...jpg?1511989205

AR44:

http://www.axialracing.com/assets/pr...jpg?1463765866

Taken from their site - take a look for yourself... They integrated the link mounts, trusses, and lockouts/c-hubs.

Then there's this:
"AX10™ TRANSMISSION
The ultra compact transmission allows for a wide range of gearing choices. The overall ratio can be adjusted using different pinion and spur gear choices allowing super high speed or competition level crawling speed. The new transmission housing design still retains the basic function of the original transmission but in a new more scale looking case.

• Final drive ratio (FDR) 42.00 – Original SCX10 was 33.06
• 20T metal drive gear, plastic idler gear and plastic lower gear (Optional: upgrade to all metal gears with this gear set: AX31585)
• Scale looks – silver color looks like cast aluminum
• Better mounting points at the base of the transmission – no more stripped screws!"

Ditchrat 12-23-2017 05:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hillbillyrc (Post 5778627)
strong sintered metal,

LOL, we made out gears from compressed metal dust, but its strong:lmao:

Teng 12-23-2017 06:43 AM

Re: Scx10II TRAIL honcho
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chilli39 (Post 5778592)
I am certainly very happy to see the prices on the new scx10II trail honcho

Does anyone have one yet

How does it stack up compared to other trail crawlers out there right now
Now I am not gonna lie I was seriously thinking about getting a redcat gen7pro
But at a 70 difference I could get a Axiel scx10II
I just may go with Axiel instead.

Because of their prices I have always wanted to buy something cheaper than Axiel or Traxxas

But now I am thinking of product support and Axiel has excellent support for their products

What does everyone think I would like to find out "thumbsup"

SCX10 II is a good choice, however you need to upgrade few parts to make her strong ( reliable) and don’t forget to shims your rig properly. "thumbsup"

Chilli39 12-23-2017 04:22 PM

Re: Scx10II TRAIL honcho
 
Well I am torn because of the gen7pro and the new honcho and I know there are tons of reasons not to buy a redcat but for that price and what you get for the money is is not a bad deal at all

Jim85IROC 12-23-2017 07:42 PM

Re: Scx10II TRAIL honcho
 
Why not go with the Sport and a few upgrades? For under $300 you'll have a truck with metal suspension and steering links, good tires, metal lockers, CV axles, upgraded servo and plenty of other upgrades.

Chilli39 12-24-2017 03:13 PM

Re: Scx10II TRAIL honcho
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim85IROC (Post 5779323)
Why not go with the Sport and a few upgrades? For under $300 you'll have a truck with metal suspension and steering links, good tires, metal lockers, CV axles, upgraded servo and plenty of other upgrades.

Yeah I thought about the sport but the transmission is plastic gearing and pro is all metal that is the difference between them

Greatscott 12-24-2017 08:05 PM

Re: Scx10II TRAIL honcho
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chilli39 (Post 5779534)
Yeah I thought about the sport but the transmission is plastic gearing and pro is all metal that is the difference between them

Unless you are running retard power through the drive train, the plastic gears are fine. I have a scale truck a built about a year before the first SCX10 came out, it has all plastic gears and have never had to break into the transmission.

Jim85IROC 12-24-2017 09:44 PM

Re: Scx10II TRAIL honcho
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chilli39 (Post 5779534)
Yeah I thought about the sport but the transmission is plastic gearing and pro is all metal that is the difference between them

No it isn't. The Pro has the plastic gears in the trans too. The Pro gives you meal lockers, CV axles, metal bodied shocks, and a bunch of weight.

Chilli39 12-25-2017 12:59 AM

Re: Scx10II TRAIL honcho
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim85IROC (Post 5779604)
No it isn't. The Pro has the plastic gears in the trans too. The Pro gives you meal lockers, CV axles, metal bodied shocks, and a bunch of weight.

Oh I thought it had metal gears I thought that’s what the difference was

PounceTheBear 12-28-2017 06:21 AM

Re: Scx10II TRAIL honcho
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chilli39 (Post 5779274)
Well I am torn because of the gen7pro and the new honcho and I know there are tons of reasons not to buy a redcat but for that price and what you get for the money is is not a bad deal at all

Why not go with the vaterra ascender? Either the F100 or I think it's the K10..? C10..? Basically the same setup as the scx10.2 but comes with a few more upgrades right out of the box. I was torn between those two and decided to pre-order the honcho bc lhs can support the spare parts. And I will also pickup the F100 ascender when I pickup the honcho. We got a Christmas bonus at work that I wasn't expecting, so I am deciding to buy two so me and my wife can Scoot around the woods together :D

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Jacobdw 12-28-2017 12:28 PM

Re: Scx10II TRAIL honcho
 
the price point does make the decision difficult.... im still leaning gn7 because my son has one, and itd be easier to stock parts

Acrozier 01-22-2018 12:01 PM

Re: Scx10II TRAIL honcho
 
I'm new to crawling and have been happy with my trail honcho so far. I've heard the Redcat is a pretty capable machine as well. Please note that the redcat comes with everything needed out of the box. The Axial will need a battery and charger. Not a big deal if you have those already, but adds to the cost differential if you don't.

The sport version of the Gen7 is only $200. BigSquid RC did a review and the Redcat came out rating pretty well. I'm considering getting one for my youngest to bash.

StomperCrawler 01-22-2018 08:32 PM

Re: Scx10II TRAIL honcho
 
I vote Gen7 Sport and JB Weld or upgrade the plastic diff lockers. If you plan to upgrade to CVD's, definitely upgrade the lockers first since you won't be able to pull out the dogbones after jb welding.

lonleycreeper 01-23-2018 01:07 PM

Re: Scx10II TRAIL honcho
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chilli39 (Post 5778592)
I am certainly very happy to see the prices on the new scx10II trail honcho

Does anyone have one yet

How does it stack up compared to other trail crawlers out there right now
Now I am not gonna lie I was seriously thinking about getting a redcat gen7pro
But at a 70 difference I could get a Axiel scx10II
I just may go with Axiel instead.

Because of their prices I have always wanted to buy something cheaper than Axiel or Traxxas

But now I am thinking of product support and Axiel has excellent support for their products

What does everyone think I would like to find out "thumbsup"

I was thinking similarly. I wanted a cheap rtr, mine for a backup and a newbie rig. I got the trail honcho because I wanted a first gen but missed it.
All said I am very happy with my second gen Honcho. The aftermarket has really taken to the scx10II as well, and that was the main reason I chose it over the Redcat.

Mine has 16 plus miles on it now and still going strong. For more details...

http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/axial...-trailing.html

And SVT's

http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/axial...off-entry.html

Inspector86 01-23-2018 01:59 PM

Re: Scx10II TRAIL honcho
 
Everything you could ever want to know about upgrading the Honcho.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJz5EchFswc


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