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ADDICT · 08-06-2008, 01:35 PM

Wouldn't it be sweet if a company came out with metal gears for the pti? I mean everyone with TC3 spools including all the poulson guys could be unstopable. Man.. that would be nice.

goobs · 08-06-2008, 11:37 PM

from john at pti
"We've finally found a company that thinks they can make them, the samples
are due any time... If they work we'll contact you."

fatdad · 08-12-2008, 08:08 PM

Metal gears would be a huge hit. I had a mcahinest look at a set of tc3 gear when I was racing dirt oval and he told me they wouldn't be cost effective to make. They need to be mass produced to bring the cost to a realistic level.

jombo · 08-13-2008, 10:20 AM

i have found a set that will work with the pti truck. if you want i will post my progress with the mini monster gt gears

jombo · 08-13-2008, 10:49 AM

i still need to find some bb on the output shaft but it looks like it will work

jombo · 08-13-2008, 12:37 PM

here you go , here is the final product

its a little work but take your time in grinding the plastic and you should be fine . this took me about a day to do, not the grinding of the plastic but trying to figure out what to cut the bevel gear with . i ended up using a cut off saw from my dremmel and used a tap to make the hole larger , i basically stepped it from the smallest tap to the largest one i had . the bearing is the size that comes with the mini gt for the output shaft i just had some flanged bearings and they seemed to work good
good luck and i hope this will help everyone out.

S_C_I_P_I_O79 · 08-13-2008, 07:36 PM

Good job on that Jombo. I'm a lil too lazy to try that though :\

HiloDB1 · 08-18-2008, 01:47 AM

I'd take a set

Edit: make that 2 sets

jombo · 08-27-2008, 10:19 AM

here is a easier way, maybe ...
i was making a lst2 foc tranny and stumbled on the tranny bevel gears for the fr/r diffs . they seem like a perfect fit but i havent used the ouput shaft for the pti i used the mini gt output since its already flat on both ends.
here are the parts
original bearings and some bearings that fit inside them( i will get the measurments later)
metal steel rod 3/16
losi lst2 tranny bevel gears x2 http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...oducts_id/5891

here are the pics

now this one has been cut with a cutoff saw and i have 2 more comming to see if they fit in the 3/16 rod , if they dont then i may need to pickup the shaft that this goes into and some cup ends.

edit: never mind it fits on the rod i tried it with the cups for the losi brakes
so this will be a good upgrade for the diff gears and really no mods will be done except for some drilling in the rod to hold the bevel gear and drilling the ends so it holds pins for the axle cups

there is a spring behind the small bevel gear because i didnt have shimms, seems to work well and trust me there is no way you will break these hardend gears

HiloDB1 · 09-11-2008, 12:27 PM

I would really like to see these produced. I got my poulson axled crawler together and first thing R&P goes just playing around in my appartment :-(. I would try the above but I would like a bolt in set of gears.

666 · 09-11-2008, 01:01 PM

If you shim them tight, like 3 or 4 shims on the ring gear side, they hold up surprisingly well-even to my abuse.

HiloDB1 · 09-11-2008, 06:42 PM

Hmm thats how I have mine setup right now. Still tore it apart :-(.

motorman1600 · 09-12-2008, 05:25 PM

Maybe someone will figure out that many people would buy multiple sets of metal gears if they would produce some. I would 3 sets right now.

HiloDB1 · 09-13-2008, 10:56 PM

Broke another set today testing out my rig. Kinda my fault I guess

. If no one steps up to the task Ill have to see if someone locally is willing to make a few sets for me.

jombo · 09-14-2008, 10:29 PM

i cannot make them thats for sure , i wish i could. i made the straight axle the second one down withthe lst2 tranny beveled gears and they seem to work the best, if you could get a set to a machinest i bet they could make something work perfect with those gears. they are small enough to fit in with no grinding but you would need to find a new set of ball bearings to fit the differential

OGmicromonster · 09-14-2008, 11:07 PM

can you post the part numbers, along with part names and manufacturers, of the items you used? I have access to a bunch of machines. Maybe I can make a few sets.

jombo · 09-14-2008, 11:23 PM

can do , http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...oducts_id/5891
the rod i used was the 3/16 but the hole on the bevel gear uses these for the shaft http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ducts_id/15302
and the shaft that the bevel gear goes on

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...oducts_id/5894
and the diagram of where these parts came from on the lst2
http://www.losi.com/ProdInfo/Files/P...osion_LST2.pdf

HiloDB1 · 09-15-2008, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OGmicromonster

can you post the part numbers, along with part names and manufacturers, of the items you used? I have access to a bunch of machines. Maybe I can make a few sets.

This would be great. Im definitely down for a few sets

jombo · 09-15-2008, 06:58 AM

this is what i have so far

the red marks are where the bearings are going, and the solid red making is where i need to put a hollow sleave in between the bearing and the bevel gear so the shaft dosent slide in and out, probably some brake line.

and how i made the groove in the rod and i drilled the hole by putting it in the vice and drilled it out withthe drill press

where i am going to run into problems is the pins on the end need to be put in after its all been put together and rounded out so it fits snugly in the cups
i hope this helps you get started

HiloDB1 · 09-15-2008, 04:03 PM

Looks good so far. I think if we could just get someone to machine out the gear you are using to fit on the TC3/PTI spool it would make things a lot esier. Im not as handy with these things. Im hoping that someone can do it otherwise Im going to source a local machine shop.

08-27-2008, 10:19 AM	#29
jombo Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Trumbull, CT Posts: 111	here is a easier way, maybe ... i was making a lst2 foc tranny and stumbled on the tranny bevel gears for the fr/r diffs . they seem like a perfect fit but i havent used the ouput shaft for the pti i used the mini gt output since its already flat on both ends. here are the parts original bearings and some bearings that fit inside them( i will get the measurments later) metal steel rod 3/16 losi lst2 tranny bevel gears x2 http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...oducts_id/5891 here are the pics now this one has been cut with a cutoff saw and i have 2 more comming to see if they fit in the 3/16 rod , if they dont then i may need to pickup the shaft that this goes into and some cup ends. edit: never mind it fits on the rod i tried it with the cups for the losi brakes so this will be a good upgrade for the diff gears and really no mods will be done except for some drilling in the rod to hold the bevel gear and drilling the ends so it holds pins for the axle cups there is a spring behind the small bevel gear because i didnt have shimms, seems to work well and trust me there is no way you will break these hardend gears Last edited by jombo; 08-27-2008 at 10:27 AM. Reason: forgot some detail

09-12-2008, 05:25 PM	#33
motorman1600 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Garden Grove Posts: 499	Metal TC3 gears Maybe someone will figure out that many people would buy multiple sets of metal gears if they would produce some. I would 3 sets right now.

09-14-2008, 11:07 PM	#36
OGmicromonster Rock Crawler Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Upland Posts: 546	can you post the part numbers, along with part names and manufacturers, of the items you used? I have access to a bunch of machines. Maybe I can make a few sets. Last edited by OGmicromonster; 09-14-2008 at 11:12 PM.

08-06-2008, 01:35 PM	#21
ADDICT RCC Addict Join Date: May 2008 Location: On the rocks Posts: 985	Wouldn't it be sweet if a company came out with metal gears for the pti? I mean everyone with TC3 spools including all the poulson guys could be unstopable. Man.. that would be nice.

08-06-2008, 11:37 PM	#22
goobs RCC Addict Join Date: May 2007 Location: pasadena, tx Posts: 1,108	from john at pti "We've finally found a company that thinks they can make them, the samples are due any time... If they work we'll contact you."

08-12-2008, 08:08 PM	#23
fatdad Newbie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: United States Posts: 1	Metal gears would be a huge hit. I had a mcahinest look at a set of tc3 gear when I was racing dirt oval and he told me they wouldn't be cost effective to make. They need to be mass produced to bring the cost to a realistic level.

08-13-2008, 10:20 AM	#24
jombo Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Trumbull, CT Posts: 111	i have found a set that will work with the pti truck. if you want i will post my progress with the mini monster gt gears

08-13-2008, 10:49 AM	#25
jombo Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Trumbull, CT Posts: 111	i still need to find some bb on the output shaft but it looks like it will work

08-13-2008, 12:37 PM	#26
jombo Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Trumbull, CT Posts: 111	here you go , here is the final product its a little work but take your time in grinding the plastic and you should be fine . this took me about a day to do, not the grinding of the plastic but trying to figure out what to cut the bevel gear with . i ended up using a cut off saw from my dremmel and used a tap to make the hole larger , i basically stepped it from the smallest tap to the largest one i had . the bearing is the size that comes with the mini gt for the output shaft i just had some flanged bearings and they seemed to work good good luck and i hope this will help everyone out.

08-13-2008, 07:36 PM	#27
S_C_I_P_I_O79 Rock Stacker Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: middle of Posts: 53	Good job on that Jombo. I'm a lil too lazy to try that though :\

08-18-2008, 01:47 AM	#28
HiloDB1 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hilo Posts: 458	I'd take a set Edit: make that 2 sets

09-11-2008, 12:27 PM	#30
HiloDB1 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hilo Posts: 458	I would really like to see these produced. I got my poulson axled crawler together and first thing R&P goes just playing around in my appartment :-(. I would try the above but I would like a bolt in set of gears.

09-11-2008, 01:01 PM	#31
666 MODERHATER™ Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 10,939	If you shim them tight, like 3 or 4 shims on the ring gear side, they hold up surprisingly well-even to my abuse.

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09-11-2008, 06:42 PM	#32
HiloDB1 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hilo Posts: 458	Hmm thats how I have mine setup right now. Still tore it apart :-(.

09-13-2008, 10:56 PM	#34
HiloDB1 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hilo Posts: 458	Broke another set today testing out my rig. Kinda my fault I guess . If no one steps up to the task Ill have to see if someone locally is willing to make a few sets for me.

09-14-2008, 10:29 PM	#35
jombo Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Trumbull, CT Posts: 111	i cannot make them thats for sure , i wish i could. i made the straight axle the second one down withthe lst2 tranny beveled gears and they seem to work the best, if you could get a set to a machinest i bet they could make something work perfect with those gears. they are small enough to fit in with no grinding but you would need to find a new set of ball bearings to fit the differential

09-14-2008, 11:23 PM	#37
jombo Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Trumbull, CT Posts: 111	can do , http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...oducts_id/5891 the rod i used was the 3/16 but the hole on the bevel gear uses these for the shaft http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ducts_id/15302 and the shaft that the bevel gear goes on http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...oducts_id/5894 and the diagram of where these parts came from on the lst2 http://www.losi.com/ProdInfo/Files/P...osion_LST2.pdf

09-15-2008, 06:58 AM	#39
jombo Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Trumbull, CT Posts: 111	this is what i have so far the red marks are where the bearings are going, and the solid red making is where i need to put a hollow sleave in between the bearing and the bevel gear so the shaft dosent slide in and out, probably some brake line. and how i made the groove in the rod and i drilled the hole by putting it in the vice and drilled it out withthe drill press where i am going to run into problems is the pins on the end need to be put in after its all been put together and rounded out so it fits snugly in the cups i hope this helps you get started

09-15-2008, 04:03 PM	#40
HiloDB1 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hilo Posts: 458	Looks good so far. I think if we could just get someone to machine out the gear you are using to fit on the TC3/PTI spool it would make things a lot esier. Im not as handy with these things. Im hoping that someone can do it otherwise Im going to source a local machine shop.

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