Cloudswimmer's Bully II Build
 

Ok starting this thread to keep everything neat and in one place. My Bully II RTR just arrived. I bought it direct from RC4WD, and the shipping was ultra fast as in overnight as we are both in Calif. The box arrived in perfect shape, and is some of the best factory packaging I've seen in the 5 years I've been doing this hobby.

Ok plans for now include:
Replace receiver with Sanwa (using MT4 radio)
Replace Esc with Hobby Wing 1040 Esc
Replace Esc XT60 plug with Deans
Replace BEC with Castle 10a @ 7.4v
Replace Servo with Hitec 7955TG
Install Holmes motor guards
Move motor wires to upper terminals
Relocate electronics as low as possible
Trim wires where possible
Grease axle gears with Vanquish Star Lube
Punch vent holes in stock tires
Replace foams with Double Duce from CI
Install RC4WD Knuckle Weights
Replace bearings with Fast Eddy's
Paint body panels and sticker up
Charge batteries
Place finished rig on shelf and have cold beer
Then practice practice practice on home course till desert weather cools off.


My batteries on order are 2 Brood 3c 500mah and 2 850mah, will be here Thursday. The Esc is suppose to be here Saturday. So for now I will study the rig with cold beer and music, and commence work Sat. night after ESC arrives. Obligatory pic below :mrgreen:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4181/...9c8170_z_d.jpg

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Cool. Swapping the ESC will make a big difference. The outcry esc is, in all honesty quite horrible for crawling.
How are those shocks setup? They look to not be setup for droop, but I cant see any exterior springs?

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Thats a good question on the shocks. I'll play around with the shocks when I get home and see, but I'm probably going to swap in some Dravtech's if only cause I like the looks :mrgreen:

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Remember we have a comp this Saturday you should drive out and see what we are all about.. best place to see what your new toy is for:mrgreen:"thumbsup"

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A few more little things to do. Loctite every screw going into aluminum, so basically everything on the housings. Pick up some 2x11 pins for axle pins and then replace the pin in the gears as well (2x11 for the gears will need to be cut down and ends rounded). The stock pins are total garbage and to short. Then shocks and knuckle weights. After that, your rig will be good to go until you decide how far you want to go with it. And last, have fun!"thumbsup"

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Totally looking forward to checking it out. This Sat. I'm wrentching on my 1:1 XJ in the morning, and hopefully my ESC shows up so I can wrentch on my Bully in the evening. Will you guys be out there the following Sat? Ohh and whats the name of your Facebook page .. I'd like to check that out as well "thumbsup"

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https://m.facebook.com/borderlinecrawlers/

Not much action on the FB page. Sat is our season final. New season starts October. But I'll post any gtg practices here on rccrawler over the summer.

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Good pins and Dlux knuckles .... nuff said!


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You mean good pins as in pin tires? Are the ones that came with this going to be decent enough for a comp noob?

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Don't over stress what tire is the best the bully tires will get you running. The stock foams probably suck..

Watch this video
https://youtu.be/yElUpxivbAY

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I think they mean the pins that transfer the drive from the axle to the wheel hex.

If you take the wheel off, you will see the wheel seats on a hex.
If you take the hex off (it just pulls off) you will see that the power from the axle is transferred to the hex via a small pin that slots through the axle and the hex seats on that.

Im not familiar with the last one for the gears.
Spares would no doubt be a good idea, especially if you are taking it out on a serious mission. You don't want to be out of the game early due to such a simple failure.
In saying that I have never broken one. Maybe they changed them since the Bully 1? or maybe im just not driving it hard enough :)

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Info here on bully tires.
http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/tires...comp-tire.html

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Good read and video .. thanks for that. So should I pick up a leather punch and vent the tires to begin with, or drive it as is to begin with? I also have some Double Duce foams in some wraith tires I've never used which I could cannabalize for the Bully.

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I'd vent the tires now.. leather punch works awesome so yes I'd buy one.

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Now im curious, and I think the OP may have overlooked this with the mention afterwards of "pin tires"
Were you talking about the pins I mentioned ie in the wheel hexes etc, or tires?
you must be talking about the hex pins with the dimensions you gave..just dont want the OP to overlook this with the mention of pin tires.
cheers

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Hex pins, get 11mm long not 10 as included, the snap quick


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Would you happen to have a vendor you could point me to for these pins? RC4WD is showing only the 10mm ones, and RPP, Dlux, and Tower Hobbies is coming up empty on 11mm hex pins

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Tower had duratrax last I checked
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...1p?&I=DTXC8930


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Ordered a couple packs .. thanks Mike "thumbsup"

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So the stock gear pin is too short? I just ordered the Duratrax 11mm pins from Tower, so is it just a matter of taking a smidge off the length on the grinder? What happens if I just leave the gear pin alone?

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Decided to order a better servo horn for my Hitec 7955TG. Its a Robotronic 24T 20/24mm. So are the holes in these for the rod end tapped, and if so what thread size .. M2? Anyone know? Thanks

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4193/...28a31f_o_d.jpg

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Yes, and M3.

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Will M3 x 8 work for the stock drag links rod end? And thanks again "thumbsup"

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Not if the ball is like ~7 mm…

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9.70mm to be exact. Then round the ends on the pin to fit the gear slot 100%. Once you get in there and see it, you'll understand. And its your choice to do it or not, but dont come back here crying if it breaks. Lol. Better to do it now while your in there then later on, its added insurance.

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Fellow bully noob here. One thing I just noticed was the nuts that hold the wheels on benefit from a washer. I noticed the nut was carving some meat off the center hole of the wheel, because it's too wide of a hole to begin with. Hope I made sense.

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Haven't even taken my wheels off yet, but thanks for the heads up. My other rigs all have washers behind the axle nut. Do you plan on starting a build thread yourself? "thumbsup"

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Hey guys on these stock shocks, are they ready to go or should I put oil in them. Also should I stick with the springs that are in them to start with?

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you generally dont need oil with internal (droop) springs.

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But there super bouncy, try it and see if it helps. But only fill it half way. And ditch them ASAP! Lol

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But I kinda like the way they look .. they look like the Rancho RS9000's on my 1:1 crawler (course guys have been telling me to ditch those ASAP too, for 20 years now :ror:)

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How come we should ditch the stock suspension? They seem alright to me. Holds the weight up and travels smoothly. Not sure what other features a spring could have to benefit crawling slowly over rocks.

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When I switched foams, the tires wouldn't stay planted, I was getting lift and rolling. The Big Bores I used gave me more travel and with proper springs really help avoid lift.... might just be poor tuning, but they work better for me


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Because there bouncy and unpredictable. Once you get some better shocks, you'll realize there garbage. Being constant is key.

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Then use a thicker oil and fill them properly.

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You've never used those , judging by that sage advice.
But quick Yoda, better listen as PP knows all


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You know anything about the RC4WD King shocks? I have a few pair of em laying around here I bought for a scaler project (90mm), but I have used them for mockup only and have no idea how they work, you think those would be better than the stock Bully II RTR shocks?

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:lmao:

Yup, its that easy!!:roll:

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No I dont. Ive never owned a pair and I haven't heard anything good about them either other than they look good. Lol

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Yeah they look killer for sure. I also have their previous blue and silver shocks and those things definately suck eggs .. stiffer than raging hormones lol. Probably just gonna get the Dravtech's when the time comes and work with these white ones for now.