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PrpleNrpleV2 02-18-2021 11:10 AM

My GEN8 BUILD
 
First R/C since the mid 90's, first crawler ever. So much fun.
Unfortunately, after the first run 3 shocks were sagged and leaking. The plastic caps were warped and company did not warranty nor did they have any in stock to warranty..so that started a slippery slope of mods.

Front Treal brass inner, outter, and c mounts.

QUE-T amazon beadlocks
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

injora roof rack
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Powershift r/c battery dead man switch.

redcat light kit

PRO-LINE scaler shocks.

But I think I ruined it with the roof rack...it looks so good but its now really top heavy. I put some soft springs on the shocks thinking it would sit low and have alot of droop etc. But as soon as it side hills kinda it just flops over. Such a bummer. Will have to play with the springs a bunch, because I dont wanna ditch the rack! May end up having to use a different one with the spare. We will see.

Def needs some sticky tires, and a better esc and motor.

But that's it so far.



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ferp420 02-18-2021 07:53 PM

Re: My GEN8 BUILD
 
add more weight just try to keep it below the axle centerline and out at the wheels like this
https://i.imgur.com/UysPa5hl.jpg

PrpleNrpleV2 02-19-2021 10:45 AM

Re: My GEN8 BUILD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ferp420 (Post 6069553)
add more weight just try to keep it below the axle centerline and out at the wheels like this

Yea. I will eventually do the rear axle with brass as well. Not sure I could do much more to the front. Maybe add some weights in the wheels...

Phildirt 02-19-2021 11:09 AM

Re: My GEN8 BUILD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PrpleNrpleV2 (Post 6069627)
Yea. I will eventually do the rear axle with brass as well. Not sure I could do much more to the front. Maybe add some weights in the wheels...


Maybe something to read up on but I've heard that weighting the wheels has more downside than up (increased rolling resistance/lag/centrifugal issues at speed/stress on the axle shafts and bearings) could be a bunch of nonsense but worth investigating before you do it.

PrpleNrpleV2 02-19-2021 04:24 PM

Re: My GEN8 BUILD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phildirt (Post 6069636)
Maybe something to read up on but I've heard that weighting the wheels has more downside than up (increased rolling resistance/lag/centrifugal issues at speed/stress on the axle shafts and bearings) could be a bunch of nonsense but worth investigating before you do it.

You are correct. Especially bad with the stock system...

ferp420 02-19-2021 08:46 PM

Re: My GEN8 BUILD
 
you could also put the spare tire on a diet loose the foam and the back side of the rim i just use the face of the rim every little bit helps

JimK 02-21-2021 09:36 AM

Re: My GEN8 BUILD
 
That's a good looking truck. I've been known on occasion to sacrifice performance for looks. :oops:
I see you are also a Seth fan...lol

PrpleNrpleV2 02-22-2021 08:57 AM

Re: My GEN8 BUILD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JimK (Post 6069852)
That's a good looking truck. I've been known on occasion to sacrifice performance for looks. :oops:
I see you are also a Seth fan...lol

It is 100% his fault I got back into it. I wasn't riding due to injury and my son being born...not enough sleep to even see straight... so yea, had to add a new hobby.

PrpleNrpleV2 02-23-2021 04:02 PM

Re: My GEN8 BUILD
 
Wish me luck...how my desk at work looks in the corner. Picking at it when it is slow. New holmes 21t trailmaster and 1080 esc going in! And figuring out springs etc.


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MrSquiggles 02-23-2021 08:04 PM

Re: My GEN8 BUILD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JimK (Post 6069852)
That's a good looking truck. I've been known on occasion to sacrifice performance for looks. :oops:

I see you are also a Seth fan...lol

Ha! I was going to say the same thing; Bike Hackers are everywhere.

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NUYORICAN420 02-24-2021 11:59 PM

Re: My GEN8 BUILD
 
If you're going to put a half-cab body on your scout I'll understand the weight savings.....but, it's a scout body....she has a wide bottom which makes her top heavy naturally. So, with that said....go ahead and use that roof rack...put that hilift jack on the hood....put that dirt bike on the rear......install that full interior.....she is what she is and no wheel weights is going to fix that. I LOVE MY 11.26LBS SCOUT!!!!!...She's pretty!!!!

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PrpleNrpleV2 02-25-2021 04:38 PM

Re: My GEN8 BUILD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NUYORICAN420 (Post 6070347)
If you're going to put a half-cab body on your scout I'll understand the weight savings.....but, it's a scout body....she has a wide bottom which makes her top heavy naturally. So, with that said....go ahead and use that roof rack...put that hilift jack on the hood....put that dirt bike on the rear......install that full interior.....she is what she is and no wheel weights is going to fix that. I LOVE MY 11.26LBS SCOUT!!!!!...She's pretty!!!!

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That's the spirit!!!!!!! I do want to make a trailer to tow my baja rey around. That would be sweeet.




Got it put together. Going to test it out today. Gotta fix the motor wiring, it bugs me. Soldered it up and was like shit!!! I am super bummed because the remote battery switch on the roofrack does not work with the esc. Gotta figure that out. May just turn it on with the button then off with the battery.

The suspension is way better but it still sags only to one side for some reason. If I just twist it by the front bumper...it will rebound almost 100% on drivers side but on passenger side it will go about 50%. Cant think of anything that might bind...maybe the slight bumpsteer issue might affect it??




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PrpleNrpleV2 02-26-2021 10:37 AM

Re: My GEN8 BUILD
 
My local creek run. Need to modify the tree root for a little more grip and widen a few spots for my fat rig. Def need some wider squishier tires though. And some tiny washers to keep the front shocks from popping off the top mounts...


INSTAGRAM VS REALITY....

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i cannot drive one handed

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PrpleNrpleV2 03-05-2021 10:00 AM

Re: My GEN8 BUILD
 
My club 5 servo relocation and husky links came in so I put those on over the last couple days..the instructions were fr the GEN1 so had to do things a little different. The servo cannot mount on top and the panhard bar has to mount from the back because of the lower double shock mounts.

and the relocation mount just barely touches the motor. Had to bend a connection out of the way to get it to clear.


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Marcvader 03-08-2021 02:16 PM

Re: My GEN8 BUILD
 
Treal diff cover helped mine a lot. I also have the C hubs, metal bead locks and brass at all outer portals. Showdown Duratrax tires too. Mounted a 3D printed roof rack along with the interior, door handles wipers and gas cap as well as the lights. Thing performs outstanding even with the high center of gravity. Just got a winch which will help with the added front end weight. The only thing left I have to do is install the quicrun 1080 and HH Trailmaster 21t I just got for it. Do like your husky links and will probably do that too at some point.

PrpleNrpleV2 03-24-2021 09:47 AM

Re: My GEN8 BUILD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcvader (Post 6072163)
Treal diff cover helped mine a lot. I also have the C hubs, metal bead locks and brass at all outer portals. Showdown Duratrax tires too. Mounted a 3D printed roof rack along with the interior, door handles wipers and gas cap as well as the lights. Thing performs outstanding even with the high center of gravity. Just got a winch which will help with the added front end weight. The only thing left I have to do is install the quicrun 1080 and HH Trailmaster 21t I just got for it. Do like your husky links and will probably do that too at some point.

The ESC and motor helped out a ton. The links were more of a want too then a need too. I do need to add some weight to the rear i have noticed.

Crawler is kinda on back burner. Someone came and ruined most of the track I built at the local spot. Not sure if it was some punk kids or some homeless idiot. And i got A e-revo..So once the new r/c smell wears off ill be back to the crawler. haha

PrpleNrpleV2 10-25-2021 12:50 PM

Re: My GEN8 BUILD
 
So I spent some money... Got tired of the E-revo breaking and a few coworkers got into the crawler scene too...so got back into the GEN8...Here is the list that I did..and o man it is so planted now.

-Treal full axles/brass end to end front and rear.

-Treal aluminum transfer case

-Redcat aluminum transmission case

-Hyrax pro10128-14. dual stage foams.

-Reefs 422hdv2 servo.




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AK KRAWLER 10-25-2021 04:23 PM

Re: My GEN8 BUILD
 
I'll bet that sucker is super planted with the brass axle housings!!!

Looks great man.

Timmahh 10-25-2021 08:16 PM

Re: My GEN8 BUILD
 
Have a bit of Treal on my AXE rig too. F&R Inner Portal housings, Chubs and outer housing on the rear, F diff cover is Treal. Also have the now discontinued brass perches and spring colors for the shocks. Still have stock Axle housing F&R though as the plastic just slides better and has been holding up well to my abuse.
If I do have a housing issue, I'll grab a set of the new HD Housings from RC. My pig already weighs 10 3/4ish lbs.

PrpleNrpleV2 10-26-2021 11:36 AM

Re: My GEN8 BUILD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AK KRAWLER (Post 6096597)
I'll bet that sucker is super planted with the brass axle housings!!!

Looks great man.

Better be with how much $$ lol

I went with 45 weight in the shocks as well so the little side hilling I did I had almost no body roll. But I have noticed when climbing under torque it will lift a wheel now...so not sure if that will be a huge problem or not. But man i agree it looks cool 8)

PrpleNrpleV2 04-06-2023 04:44 PM

Re: My GEN8 BUILD
 
Decided to dust the cobwebs off this thing and walk around where I grew up.. made me miss the "country" side.

I really need a winch.it is just too heavy.. anybody use this?

https://rcworld.us/red-cat-gen-8-sco...ess-winch-red/




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Logan’s RCAdventures 04-09-2023 08:10 AM

Re: My GEN8 BUILD
 
That's a really pretty spot to crawl! There's nothing like that here in Florida though. I have a purple gen8, but I'm the kind of guy to wear the parts out completely before upgrading. I'm gonna be getting some of the longer Desert Lizard shocks soon, I have to keep refilling the stock ones and bleeding them over and over again. The dang seals wont stop leaking.

PrpleNrpleV2 04-10-2023 01:46 PM

Re: My GEN8 BUILD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Logan’s RCAdventures (Post 6135306)
That's a really pretty spot to crawl! There's nothing like that here in Florida though. I have a purple gen8, but I'm the kind of guy to wear the parts out completely before upgrading. I'm gonna be getting some of the longer Desert Lizard shocks soon, I have to keep refilling the stock ones and bleeding them over and over again. The dang seals wont stop leaking.

We are sometimes lucky here in socal.

Great idea on the upgrading when needing too. Technically cheaper and wont get burned out so quick.

Yea stock shocks sucked. I will recommend a upgrade to a 1080 esc and your choice of motor. I have the holmes trailmaster 21t. Really good at crawling and descending but I wish I had a little more wheel speed though. But it made it a whole new rig.

Logan’s RCAdventures 04-10-2023 03:17 PM

Re: My GEN8 BUILD
 
Thanks for the tips! I have a Redcat branded 1040 brushed esc in my boat running two motors and two nimh batteries. The hold up to a lot of abuse, but eventually I will end up swapping my Gen8 esc to a 1080 as I have heard a lot of good about them. I have a 35 turn motor kicking around but that's probably gonna be too slow. Definitely gonna be upgrading the shocks first as they are the only real problem with the truck so far. I had a Gen7, and the driveshafts were terrible. I just drove it until the u joints popped apart. Did they fix that with the Gen8? So far they have been fairly durable, but I'm not beating on my Gen8 as hard as the Gen7.

PrpleNrpleV2 04-13-2023 02:53 PM

Re: My GEN8 BUILD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Logan’s RCAdventures (Post 6135367)
Thanks for the tips! I have a Redcat branded 1040 brushed esc in my boat running two motors and two nimh batteries. The hold up to a lot of abuse, but eventually I will end up swapping my Gen8 esc to a 1080 as I have heard a lot of good about them. I have a 35 turn motor kicking around but that's probably gonna be too slow. Definitely gonna be upgrading the shocks first as they are the only real problem with the truck so far. I had a Gen7, and the driveshafts were terrible. I just drove it until the u joints popped apart. Did they fix that with the Gen8? So far they have been fairly durable, but I'm not beating on my Gen8 as hard as the Gen7.

Nice. I am 100% certain..my driveshafts are the only thing left that is original.

PrpleNrpleV2 04-13-2023 02:56 PM

Re: My GEN8 BUILD
 
Almost finished. Need to make some aluminum skids under it somehow. Not 100% sure I like it. But It is the first so not bad.



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ferp420 04-13-2023 03:49 PM

Re: My GEN8 BUILD
 
nicee

Logan’s RCAdventures 04-13-2023 03:51 PM

Re: My GEN8 BUILD
 
That rear bumper looks sweet!! How thick of an aluminum are you using? Are you gonna make a skid for the bumper?

PrpleNrpleV2 04-13-2023 04:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Logan’s RCAdventures (Post 6135494)
That rear bumper looks sweet!! How thick of an aluminum are you using? Are you gonna make a skid for the bumper?

Thx. Just some .025 Yea so it will slide on things instead of hanging up on them.

Logan’s RCAdventures 04-14-2023 04:00 PM

Re: My GEN8 BUILD
 
Gigantic skid plate at the rear! I might have to do that with my stock bumper! Unfortunately there is a distinct lack of rocks in Florida, so my truck really only sees concrete piles, loose dirt, and grass. :lmao:

PrpleNrpleV2 04-14-2023 05:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Logan’s RCAdventures (Post 6135573)
Gigantic skid plate at the rear! I might have to do that with my stock bumper! Unfortunately there is a distinct lack of rocks in Florida, so my truck really only sees concrete piles, loose dirt, and grass. :lmao:

You have man made rocks lol.

Yea. Big ass=big ass skid plate.

Got my Chinese front bumper and winch in. Fits OK. Way bigger then the pictures. But whatever. Might put stock one back on with winch well see. Not sure if I like it with the stinger piece on or off...

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ferp420 04-14-2023 06:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PrpleNrpleV2 (Post 6135579)
You have man made rocks lol.

Yea. Big ass=bug skid plate.

Got my Chinese front bumper and winch in. Fits OK. Way bigger then the pictures. But whatever. Might put stock one back on with winch well see. Not sure if I like it with the stinger piece on or off...

https://flic.kr/p/2otkKY2

https://flic.kr/p/2otnR2i

https://flic.kr/p/2otmJ89

i like the home made bumper better i think you should make a matching front

PrpleNrpleV2 04-14-2023 08:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ferp420 (Post 6135581)
i like the home made bumper better i think you should make a matching front

Yea me too. It was ordered before I decided to build the rear. So I'll run it for a bit and see if winch lasts. If not I'll build a bumper designed around that crazy warn 8274 winch.

Logan’s RCAdventures 04-16-2023 10:02 AM

Re: My GEN8 BUILD
 
That is indeed, a massive winch. I guess a big winch is needed for big butts!

PrpleNrpleV2 04-21-2023 04:26 PM

Re: My GEN8 BUILD
 
Got it pretty much done. Gotta trim up the edges a little. Not sure if i want to paint it black and let it get scratched/rust or just let it rust...

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smog 04-21-2023 04:57 PM

Re: My GEN8 BUILD
 
Bumper looks good and functional. Where does the tube/rod you've run through the stock bumper mount attach?

ferp420 04-22-2023 08:02 AM

Re: My GEN8 BUILD
 
i dont know about the skid plate on the bumper it dosent look bad dosent look good ether probably dose what its saposed to though i dont know if its needed
if it was painted that could tell the whole story right there if there are lots of scratches than its needed no scratches than its not

now if it had a matching front bumper that would change how i feel about it.for.sure

Logan’s RCAdventures 04-24-2023 06:48 PM

Re: My GEN8 BUILD
 
I think the skid plate looks great! Your not really gonna see it while driving, and its a skid plate so who cares how it looks. I'd let it rust up and everytime it scrapes the rocks, you might be able to see where it slid over. The other guys are also right, it would be sweet to see a custom front bumper as well!

PrpleNrpleV2 04-26-2023 03:27 PM

Re: My GEN8 BUILD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smog (Post 6135952)
Bumper looks good and functional. Where does the tube/rod you've run through the stock bumper mount attach?

It mounts like the stock bumper kinda. 2 screws from underneath pinch the tube. Like a set screw.

PrpleNrpleV2 04-26-2023 03:30 PM

Re: My GEN8 BUILD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ferp420 (Post 6135976)
i dont know about the skid plate on the bumper it dosent look bad dosent look good ether probably dose what its saposed to though i dont know if its needed
if it was painted that could tell the whole story right there if there are lots of scratches than its needed no scratches than its not

now if it had a matching front bumper that would change how i feel about it.for.sure

Yea im sure it will help. The stock bumper got hung up on everything!

Went to sedona and phoenix for 4 days and didnt get a chance once to run it! Super bummed...

But haha yes mom! Ill get on the front bumper....someday


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