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Just realized I'm in the wrong thread, sorry! Off to 2017 I go.

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But those sides are tapered just like the honcho bed. If you look at the rear quarter panels they slightly taper in, causing the rear of the truck to not be flush with the ending of the sides.

That's the thing about rules, it doesn't matter if it is an inch or a thousands of an inch. Right?:lmao:

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I don't know, it looks square to me, like maybe it just has flared fenders.

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/11...f?v=1453562716

But it may not really matter anymore. I was planning on doing some comps in C1 and C2 with the same truck, but one place has set their rules as only hardbodies for C1.

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Thanks for voting against dig in C2.

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You’re welcome.

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I thank the SORRCA team for the rules for 2018.

Now I do have a question I don't think I need to ask, but the way many on FB are reading it, I figured why not. People are saying in C1 a shock mounting point must now be on a welded/brazed or mechanically fastened piece. I don't see that in the rules, I do see if it needs shocks hoops they must be separate and of course if you want integrated hoop points.

Is my GCM Class 2 Skeleton chassis now illegal? It uses frame bolts front shocks, and a cantilever Dinky rear system since I made the JK body have a flat floor and not the rear seat (yes I know I removed possibly points, but I prefer my JK scaler to be exactly like my 1:1 JK).

If I read the rule the FB way, I'd need to cut off the front towers/mounts and some how reattach them. On most chassis I can see easy ways, not so when the GCM mount area also is integral to the trans mount.

How I read the rule, I'm good, but I'm not getting integrated Hoop points and I get that would be skipped.

Chassis in question (though I'm sure you guys know):
https://vgy.me/ZJwv3Q.jpg

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The rule only affects C1 - for a C2 rig you're fine.

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So in C1 the option is to cut and reattach in some manner, the most normal.

Or maybe run cantilever front set up as well? Would that be allowable?

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I would just add a separate shock mount, and it would pass. As long as it mounts to the rail and not to the current mount.

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Can I ask why C1 was chosen to have the shock hoop rule? And why it would matter how the shocks are attached?

Just looking for insight on why that particular rule was placed.

Thanks

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"but you can not ignore the impact it has on any organization."

All organizations was doing fine before they got on FB, and they will be fine too if they wasent on FB.
And FB only have a minor impact if your store / organization or whatever get more traffic, at least if you only count the meaningful stuff.

Really FB are nothing and it have never been anything worth the effort of a sane person, but they are damn good at telling people that what they offer you just cant live without.
And i actually hope down the line in the future FB will be named the first digital decease.

Regarding the scale rules, then i think they are fine but its a clueless statement as i have never comped and if we do that here its pretty much just bring what you got and lets have some fun.
But in General people dont bring wraiths to run against the regular scalers even if our gate placement ( spacing ) are blowing the wind.

PS. I have never been on FB unless its a link concealed, and then i backtrack at once and wipe my cookies / browser files, and curse the person that put that concealed link there in the first place.

PPS. I would rather have 1 true friend that a million "friends" on any social media.

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Simply to keep the noddle chassis out of the class. The ones that the rail rises up into a shock mount.

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Don't flame me, it's just a thought...
I wonder if that was done to keep the gen7 out of c1. It was a cms away from class 1 legal out of the box but now there's no way without a new frame. Maybe the shock tower rule is to keep a million newbs with gen7's from flooding c1.

I can't see it being a performance gain, but for scale looks however it most certainly would be a factor. I'm going to assume it's just for scale reasons. Realism is kind of the point I suppose.

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Gotcha, Thanks.



The what chassis?

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The shock hoops are part of the frame rail rather than an additional piece that is attached separately. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...5514b33374.jpg

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No, but it wouldn't be legal either.

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So my rc4wd gelande 1 based vehicle is now illegal in C1?


The chassis in question.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/e4...g=w900-h625-no

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As I understand the rules, yes. You would have to cut the shock towers off and weld them back on. Or cut them off and make new that bolt on

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Unfortunately yes, we realized there would be some chassis's that would fall out of spec. But in the same token, we also realized those chassis's could easily be modified back into spec.

It's an attempt to keep C1 pure and without the highly modified aftermarket chassis that are not exactly scale in appearance and function. Metal ladder style chassis with separate shock mounts was the best solution.

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Totally get the idea, not complaining, just trying to be compliant for Nationals this year which I do intend to visit. And still want to run my GCM truck since it matches my real 1:1 JK.

If I make a plate similar to what is in red, and mount using 1 existing hole and 2 additional I plan to drill. Then this plate would be the only place to mount a shock (I drew it half covering the existing holes on purpose to show those would not be usable).

Would this make the GCM legal? 2 holes on the frame in red would be new for shock plate mounting. The 4 holes peppered in the plate would be the shock mount holes for options.

https://vgy.me/7XDfRu.jpg

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Hallo ,
I just saw the new rules 2018, with regards to brass parts.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...daa62ba76a.jpg

What is it actually meant by “no clear paint/coating”??

Is aluminum or nickel paint color allowed?

Thanks for the clarification!






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Clear represents a gloss level of translucent (paint of no color). Basically many people saw the previous revision of "Brass must be painted" and their way around it was to paint the brass parts in clear paint. So it would still be brass colored but technically painted.

Yes, those are metallic colors that are not clear. You would be changing the brass color from a gold to those silver based colors and that is legal for sure based on all wording of the older 2018 revision or these new rules.

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I already have a post about this. And was informed by a committee member that this year no points are assessed for using rear steer to try and promote it more in C3. However it still is listed in the rules under course points. Reason I ask is because of all the clubs lining events up based on these rules and how to interpret them. Thanks again.

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It's insane to me that people have to look for a way around painting something that still involves painting something. At some point you have to ask yourself if you're in the hobby to enjoy it or just to be a dick. :ror:

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It was voted on so it's 100% going to be updated - I would say they just haven't had a second to get the pdf updated.

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Thank you sir. And noted

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Many thanks sir!

I was wondering why it was specified “clear”... now all is clear! :-)





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Does it make me a dick if I suddenly want to take the red covers on my 10.2 axles and paint them brass colored now?

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The new best friend of jerks everywhere.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon...._AC_SS350_.jpg

Expect entire trucks painted with it very soon.

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Hi guy! tks for all "thumbsup"

about this:



so this is illegal?
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/e4...g=w900-h625-no

but



How can I distinguish a piece forged from a welded piece?
Now this is frame that can be purchased easly..


But I can easly weld or braze shock hoops.. on rail and clean the "brazed"
part so good to appair like one forge piece...
after clean/grouting/paint...

I can cut the shock hoops from the frame above and re-braze
the shock hoops like you can't have notice of this...

Or we have to buy a x-ray machine?
it does not make sense..

So it is legal only a low quality braze?

can't I use my grinder for clean the braze,
You say too

We have to decide if we want to see the welding or not.

tks for answer."thumbsup"

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I add also...

if the type of shock hoops above like unreal, it is true.
But we can reward real type shock hoops, too. But
if we Forbid this type of frame we only depart all users with this type of "boxed" vehicle.

my 2c

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Can anyone tell me if the Traxxas TRaxxas TRX4 is C1 leagle.? And if it must be ran with a body of something that was on the road with portal axles?

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Other than the stock tires, yes the TRX-4 is C1 legal. Put on some 4.19" or shorter tires and you'd be set. "thumbsup"

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So all ( i think) mex scale chassis and some others are now illegal in C1. Because shocktower rule. That is insane... Well, that will probably help people to participate. Come on, please make further adjustments to this rule

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Hi everyone, I'd like to have a couple of clarifications:

- custom handmade bodies (and custom interiors): do i get points only if the body is fully handmade from scratch by myself? no points if i drive a truck with a body handmade by someone else, or buy handmade parts and just assemble it ?
same as i sell the body i made to a friend, the body won't get points no more becuase it's not raced by its builder? also it's no more one of a kind and becomes a commercial product if i build more then one for myself, to resell it to other drivers. not different from buying a 3d printed or commercial abs body, it is correct to award the building talent and not the money spent imho.

- roll cages: can you give me confirmation on how many points are given to plastic cages mounted on lexan bodies such as axial rubicon/dingo/deadbolt ?
how many points for the honcho bed / rollbar (it's mounted on the back of the lexan cab) ?

Thank you

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The custom body has to be built from scratch (I.e. flat stock) - but it doesn't matter by who. I have several completely custom bodies that I would get points for. You cannot however modify an existing body or use 3d printed or injection molded parts.

Roll cages must be mounted to the floor, or frame. If you mount your interior floor to your roll cage that'll work.

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thank you for your answer.

you mean points are given even if i run the handmade body i bought from another guy, even if he make several of that to resell (commercial product) , unless it is fully built from scratch?

as for rollbars, what if it is mounted on a 2d interior cover (like the dingo interior which is 2d and part of the lexan body) ?
no points because it has to be mounted on the floor of a 3d interior?
what about rollbars mounted on the china 3 door jk, need to be mounted on the floor in the front as well, or it's fine to be mounted on the dashboard/hardbody?

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I just cut the shock towers of my rc4wd gelande 1 chassis and had them welded back. I ground the welds down and painted the frame. It looks just like new. Quite proud of my handiwork as you can't even see the welds. Legal again and now I get the shock tower points too.

PS. The shock mounts need to be 3d to get the points. Can you even make 2d mounts?

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That is just insane. I think we have a problem when you have to cut off shock towers and weld them back on.

But good on you for improvising!

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For Class 1. Since the shocks cannot be mounted to integrated mounts. Can they be laid down and mounted directly to the frame to clear the drop bed?