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stubs179 03-07-2012 08:04 PM

Stubs Super Bully!!!
 
Well i get bored when im working out of town and just sitting in the hotel room so i don't get myself in trouble"thumbsup" So i will start a build thread on my newly acquired super bully. Thanks Miner Mike for helping me out:ror:

-65:1 super Bully axles
-Super Juice chassis
-2x 7950's for now (7980's when i have the money)
-Mamba max's for now (BR-XL or FXR's some day)
-big bores


I have redone the steering but no pics yet. I also ground down the rear case a lot and the tubes a little. I need to find someone to turn the tubes down for me. I think they will be plenty strong at 12.5mm and that should loose at least an 1oz probably more? Hopefully i will have some Dlux tubes on it some day;-)

Its at 8lb 12oz rtr. Just waiting on a radio now and it will be up and running!

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...g/a72637ee.jpg

How much heavier are people running the front over the rear? I am only about 12oz heavier in the front.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...g/8f6337ab.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...g/58fea141.jpg

TURBOFEST 03-07-2012 08:40 PM

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Awwww Yeahhhhh!! Thats a helluva jumpstart into the super world!

Let me know if ya need anything.

Erik D_lux 03-07-2012 09:04 PM

Re: Stubs Super Bully!!!
 
Tubes smoobes. Maybe I will have to make some sets.

Looks good. I am excited to see what you come up with. Got some better shots of that steering?

Rckcrwlr 03-07-2012 10:23 PM

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Love it...another Super... "thumbsup"

TURBOFEST 03-07-2012 10:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Erik D_lux (Post 3616327)
Tubes smoobes. Maybe I will have to make some sets.

Yes please!

stubs179 03-08-2012 04:43 AM

Re: Stubs Super Bully!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Erik D_lux (Post 3616327)
Tubes smoobes. Maybe I will have to make some sets.

Looks good. I am excited to see what you come up with. Got some better shots of that steering?

The steering in the pic? Yes. I changed it because i didn't like how high the servo was and the guard weighed about 2oz. I cut up the guard a lot and laid the servo down. I will post pics when i get home on friday.

As for the tubes, feel free to take your time as i am going to spend all my money building a 2.2 Dlux front axle w/ bully cases"thumbsup"

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rckcrwlr (Post 3616511)
Love it...another Super... "thumbsup"

Thank you! I haven't even driven it and i can't wait for ECC!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by TURBOFEST (Post 3616539)
Yeas please!

Thanks"thumbsup" We already have the right shafts and knuckles so it will be an easy swap! I only had to hound his for a couple weeks about the 2.2 Bully tubes:twisted: But i think i will have more people to help push the super tubes. Eric makes some super nice and innovative stuff.

And i will be wanting your steering kits when i have the money! But at this point it will be a little while:cry:

stubs179 03-08-2012 04:47 AM

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This is all i have of the old steering. These are the pics Miner Mike sent me.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...g/f15548e6.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...g/a4456ca9.jpg

Tydl 03-08-2012 05:33 AM

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Cool rig Stubs. Good to see you getting into super."thumbsup"

We'll have to setup some super courses next comp8)

Rckcrwlr 03-08-2012 06:24 AM

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Smoobs...me likey. "thumbsup"

Erin 03-08-2012 07:12 AM

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Any pics on the ground cases? How much weight does that cut?

looks good bye the way.

JeremyH 03-08-2012 09:25 AM

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Very nice Stubs! "thumbsup"

stubs179 03-08-2012 06:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JeremyH (Post 3617068)
Very nice Stubs! "thumbsup"

Thank you sir!"thumbsup" Thanks for all the help and i am sure i will be bothering you more in the future:roll: Please keep room in your inbox for me:ror:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erin (Post 3616875)
Any pics on the ground cases? How much weight does that cut?

looks good bye the way.

Not yet. I have just done a little grinding so far. But i am shooting for something along these lines. This is a 38:1 case that Jeepy posted in my Bully thread. They are at 66g stock is 83g. 17g/0.5oz is good. And there is way more meat on the 65:1 cases so i am thinking you could get an once out if them. I will only do the rear as i dont want to spend the time to do the front just to move the weight to the knuckles. I lost 24g/0.85oz by turning down my 2.2 bully rear axles so by turning these down it should be at least 1oz. So tubes, lw knuckles, and grinding the cases should be at least a 3oz weight savings.


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...g/bully038.jpg

Erin 03-09-2012 05:40 AM

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Nice, I saw those in your other thread.


Now we just need delrin tubes........Erik?:ror:

Rckcrwlr 03-09-2012 06:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Erin (Post 3618830)
Now we just need delrin tubes........Erik?:ror:

They would have to have some beef where the links attach to eliminate the holes hogging out with the length of the tubes.

I have been wanting to turn mine down...

TURBOFEST 03-09-2012 07:33 AM

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I'd rather see a real stripped down 7075 tube.

DickyT 03-09-2012 07:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Erin (Post 3618830)
Now we just need delrin tubes........Erik?:ror:


I promised him I would not pester him about it... Maybe I should not have said it :lmao:

stubs179 03-09-2012 09:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DickyT (Post 3618957)
I promised him I would not pester him about it... Maybe I should not have said it :lmao:

I probably bother him enough for the both of us! But one more for the cause doesn't hurt.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rckcrwlr (Post 3618852)
They would have to have some beef where the links attach to eliminate the holes hogging out with the length of the tubes.

I have been wanting to turn mine down...

Delrin tubes with Eric's link mounts to eliminate any holes in the tube! Sweetness!!!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erin (Post 3618830)
Nice, I saw those in your other thread.


Now we just need delrin tubes........Erik?:ror:

Bother him. He likes it!!

stubs179 03-10-2012 07:56 AM

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I couldn't wait any longer so i pulled the rx out of my 2.2 and did my best to copy the radio setup onto a new model mem. w/ rear steer on ch 4/ left stick right/left. It seems good like this but it is a little confusing. I will see how it goes with more practice.

Holy shit:mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen: Supers kick ass!! Reading threw these threads you guys had me worried about the 55t motors and 7950s but it seems to work fine. The steering is a little weak in the front but i don't see the need to change the rear out anytime soon. And the 55t's on 3s w/ 15t pinions seam to have plenty of wheels speed. About the same as my 2.2 anyway.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...g/7ccfcd0e.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...g/0d65ee7a.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...g/044d68d3.jpg

stubs179 03-10-2012 07:58 AM

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The steering setup.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...g/abcbf6d6.jpg

DickyT 03-10-2012 09:22 AM

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Looking good Stubs "thumbsup" I'm taking mine out for it's 1st shake down as soon as I get rid of the wife, kid and inlaws.. I mean drop them off for their cruise :mrgreen:

stubs179 03-10-2012 10:02 AM

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Ooo! You get a vacation and you get to sleep in your own bed, nice!

I think there might be enough supers in Fl to have a comp! Once there all up and running we will have to all get together and run them through some gates.

stubs179 03-22-2012 07:36 PM

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Ordered 2 of these and they are AWESOME!! http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/vendo...s-adapter.html Super easy to plug in and they work great! The servo's seam faster than when they were plugged into the rx with only one bec? Maybe i'm just crazy though?

I have been messing with my 6ex and i mixed steering ch1 and ch4 on pmx2 with the ch5 toggle. It is a lot easier to operate like this put does anyone know if there is a way to move it to the trainer/idle up toggle? If not i think i will just switch the toggles in the radio. I would also like to make the trainer switch make the rear steer 50% when flipped one way and 100% when the other? Does anyone know how to do that?

Erik D_lux 03-22-2012 10:16 PM

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I have never really understood that adapter. Why not just use a male - male adapter, pull the signal wire, install signal wire into a holder and call it good?

What am I missing?

http://itp.nyu.edu/physcomp/uploads/...rt_headers.jpg

TURBOFEST 03-22-2012 10:17 PM

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Why have a 50% rear steer on a mix? Just put one axle on the left stick and one axle on the right stick and steer them individual from one another.

Cordwood 03-23-2012 04:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Erik D_lux (Post 3644314)
I have never really understood that adapter. Why not just use a male - male adapter, pull the signal wire, install signal wire into a holder and call it good?

What am I missing?


The only advantage of the adapters is they run a ground to the Rx, instead of just the signal wire.

stubs179 03-23-2012 05:56 AM

Re: Stubs Super Bully!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Erik D_lux (Post 3644314)
I have never really understood that adapter. Why not just use a male - male adapter, pull the signal wire, install signal wire into a holder and call it good?

What am I missing?

http://itp.nyu.edu/physcomp/uploads/...rt_headers.jpg


I kinda looked around for those male/male adapters but i couldn't find them. The adapters are super easy, just plug the two ends into it, and plug it into the rx and your done. No making wires and everything is in their stock plug. Just seamed a lot easier and simple to me. From start to finish it took me about 30 seconds to install both of them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TURBOFEST (Post 3644315)
Why have a 50% rear steer on a mix? Just put one axle on the left stick and one axle on the right stick and steer them individual from one another.

I have it set up the same as i run my 2.2 radio. Front steering right stick (side to side), rear axle right stick (up/down), rear steer left (side to side) front motor left (up/down). Then i have pmx 1 on ch6, ch2 slave, ch3 master for front dig on the left stick. And i put pmx 2 on ch5 with ch4 slave and ch1 master. I am not sure how he did it but a friend also set the Rudder toggle so when its up you have to move the right stick about 50% before it does anything (so i don't bump the rear motor when i don't mean to). If i need rear dig instant i just flip the toggle down.

You can mix so much in the 6ex. And it makes driving with a stick radio so much easier.

I drove it yesterday and with the mix on the steering it makes 4 weel steer so much easier but it's only for steering them to make a tight turn. To crap walk i have to turn the mix off and steer with the left stick. I feel it just makes it easier to control in a situation where there is a lot going on. Doing 4 functions at one is to confusing for me at this point:mrgreen:

TURBOFEST 03-23-2012 08:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stubs179 (Post 3644588)
I have it set up the same as i run my 2.2 radio. Front steering right stick (side to side), rear axle right stick (up/down), rear steer left (side to side) front motor left (up/down). Then i have pmx 1 on ch6, ch2 slave, ch3 master for front dig on the left stick. And i put pmx 2 on ch5 with ch4 slave and ch1 master. I am not sure how he did it but a friend also set the Rudder toggle so when its up you have to move the right stick about 50% before it does anything (so i don't bump the rear motor when i don't mean to). If i need rear dig instant i just flip the toggle down.

You can mix so much in the 6ex. And it makes driving with a stick radio so much easier.

I drove it yesterday and with the mix on the steering it makes 4 weel steer so much easier but it's only for steering them to make a tight turn. To crap walk i have to turn the mix off and steer with the left stick. I feel it just makes it easier to control in a situation where there is a lot going on. Doing 4 functions at one is to confusing for me at this point:mrgreen:

Understandable...I had my super steering mixed when I started using the twin sticks. After awhile though, I bet you get rid of the mix all together and just rock the steering true twin stick style. "thumbsup"

Like I said though...I understand. There have been many time when alot needs to happen fast that My brain wants to explode! :ror:

DickyT 03-23-2012 10:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TURBOFEST (Post 3644676)
There have been many time when alot needs to happen fast that My brain wants to explode! :ror:

Being new to supers myself, this is why I opted to put mine on my 4pks. I lose the absolute control of the rear power and steering. I still click the switch the wrong way more than 1/2 the time too. :oops:

Maybe I should mod my dx6i for auto center on the left stick and put it on there, but that would mess with my helis. hmmm


I can't wait to see this rig on Sunday Stubs "thumbsup"

Erik D_lux 03-23-2012 12:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cordwood (Post 3644555)
The only advantage of the adapters is they run a ground to the Rx, instead of just the signal wire.

What benefits does running the ground to the RX provide?

Quote:

Originally Posted by stubs179 (Post 3644588)
I kinda looked around for those male/male adapters but i couldn't find them.

If you ever need them..

Servo Connector Female to Male Adapter

I actually got the whole kit

Servo Connector Kits

I consider a connector kit like this a necessary tool for RC. Once you have one you will wonder how you made it without. There is also a lot of weight and mess you can pull out of wiring when you cut them to the correct length.

Cordwood 03-23-2012 01:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Erik D_lux (Post 3645088)
What benefits does running the ground to the RX provide?



If you ever need them..

Servo Connector Female to Male Adapter

I actually got the whole kit

Servo Connector Kits

I consider a connector kit like this a necessary tool for RC. Once you have one you will wonder how you made it without. There is also a lot of weight and mess you can pull out of wiring when you cut them to the correct length.


The ground doesnt do anything if you dont have glitching. Many have a problem with it and adding the ground solves it.

I agree, a good connector kit it like having a good soldering iron. I have the hansen hobbies kit and their stuff rocks.

stubs179 03-23-2012 04:02 PM

Re: Stubs Super Bully!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Erik D_lux (Post 3645088)
What benefits does running the ground to the RX provide?



If you ever need them..

Servo Connector Female to Male Adapter

I actually got the whole kit

Servo Connector Kits

I consider a connector kit like this a necessary tool for RC. Once you have one you will wonder how you made it without. There is also a lot of weight and mess you can pull out of wiring when you cut them to the correct length.


Thats a cool kit but it looks like way to much work:shock: I just plugged in the connectors and jammed it under the panels.

Which brings me to another point! How can you guys stand this bodiless business? I am tempded to cut the cab off this stupid thing and put a body over it! Every time i want to get to the electronics i have to take a ton of screws out. It is driving me f**king crazy:x

DickyT 03-23-2012 04:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stubs179 (Post 3645517)
Thats a cool kit but it looks like way to much work:shock: I just plugged in the connectors and jammed it under the panels.

Which brings me to another point! How can you guys stand this bodiless business? I am tempded to cut the cab off this stupid thing and put a body over it! Every time i want to get to the electronics i have to take a ton of screws out. It is driving me f**king crazy:x

It should not be that bad. You should only need to remove 2 screws to access the elecs. Either the front or rear cross member on the top panel then flip it open "thumbsup"


Edit: never mind, I just looked at yours again. You are screwed into the cross members including the middle. I use zipties. Remove the middle one completely. Then it is only 2 screws to remove the cross members to flip the panel!

Stax 03-30-2012 04:32 AM

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Where did you get those wheels? Sweet lookin setup.

stubs179 03-30-2012 11:54 AM

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Thanks!

Not sure who made the wheels? They were on there when i got it.

Super Fabrication 04-07-2012 09:31 AM

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Wow! I want a superbully so bad now. They just look amazing when they're on the rocks.

TedBull 04-08-2012 10:33 AM

Re: Stubs Super Bully!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Erik D_lux (Post 3616327)
Tubes smoobes. Maybe I will have to make some sets.

Please do.

Super Fabrication 05-03-2012 09:36 AM

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Just wanna say gratz on 9th at ecc. Was reading the little writing on the home page

JeremyH 05-05-2012 09:30 PM

Re: Stubs Super Bully!!!
 
Nice driving this past weekend! It was good to meet you...

B-WCRAWLER 05-06-2012 12:18 PM

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Nice looking car!! "thumbsup"

stubs179 05-13-2012 09:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Super Fabrication (Post 3714458)
Just wanna say gratz on 9th at ecc. Was reading the little writing on the home page

Thanks! Supers are awesome!

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeremyH (Post 3718293)
Nice driving this past weekend! It was good to meet you...

Thanks! It was great to meet you also and I appriciate all the help you have given.

Quote:

Originally Posted by B-WCRAWLER (Post 3718960)
Nice looking car!! "thumbsup"

Thanks. It is in for some major changes! Dlux style.


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