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Old 02-25-2008, 10:03 AM   #1
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Default Could This Be The Real Clod Stall Remedy?

I've searched and read till my eyes have bled and got nothing.

Correct me if I'm wrong, Please. It seems that every one has one conclusion to solve clod stall... lower gearing and higher volatge. Then I hear of servo glithing becomeing an issue. Something about the battery starving one of the servo's? Can all of this be solved by running two batteries, one for the motors and one for the servo's? Then If I were to run 11.1v lipo on the motor's and say a 7.4v lipo on the servo's no glitch, right? Or does the problem lay in the reciever, I've never heard this kind of issue with the flyers out there? They must be running multiple servo's and motors on their multi channel rigs? Whould love for somebody to help me out in this area, summers getting closer and I need to fish with the electronics in my rig.
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Old 02-25-2008, 10:08 AM   #2
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That's what I do
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Old 02-25-2008, 10:21 AM   #3
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The real solution to Clod stall is to run two speed controllers, on two different channels. That way you can throttle the front and rear of the truck separately as needed, and you'll never have stall again. The Clodbuster's only disadvantage becomes a true asset that way. Able to control the axles individually, you can turn the truck around within it's own wheelbase, have the rear axle load up the front axle with pressure before you throttle the front axle to climb over a rock, and you can do digs anytime, any place.

Lower gearing helps helps, but isn't as good as the above set-up.

On the subject of glitching, well that is more likely related to a speed controller that can't support running more then one high torque servo at a time. You need to make sure the ESC has a strong BEC, of at least 3 or 5 amps. The higher, the better. Or your other option is to run a regulator and separate pack, as you said, just for the electronics.

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Old 02-25-2008, 10:38 AM   #4
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Thanks Espeefan! Thats been the best eplanation so far that I've heard. But what's a guy to do if he dosn't want to run a 6 or 7 channel radio? Can you get the same results with any 4 channel? Front steering, throtle, front and rear dig on one servo and then rear steer on the last channel?
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Old 02-25-2008, 11:06 AM   #5
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Only need four channels mate:

Ch1: Front axle throttle.
Ch2: Rear axle throttle.
Ch3: Front axle servo.
Ch4: Rear axle servo.
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Old 02-25-2008, 11:15 AM   #6
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plus a slot on the rx if you want to run a BEC (most have a 'batt' slot, but some don't)
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Old 02-25-2008, 11:22 AM   #7
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Yup, a 4 channel stick radio would be the minimum requirement, I think. Put front axle throttle and steering on one stick, rear axle throttle and steering on the other. It takes some getting used to, but when you do get comfortable with the driving, it'll become second nature.
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Old 02-25-2008, 11:47 AM   #8
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Mentioned already, but worth mentioning again. Running a external BEC like the Castle Creations one is cheap and will ensure sufficient power to your servos.
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Old 02-25-2008, 11:50 AM   #9
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I know that a 4 channel stick radio is alot cheaper than a 4 channel pistol grip but they're starting to come down. Is there a way to combine the 2 throtles as one with proportioning? Like 60% rear and 40% front or whatever works? You would have only one stick to deal with and the other to steer. Switches to dig and counter steer.
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Old 02-25-2008, 11:53 AM   #10
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yup.

i can show you this weekend. that's exactly how i have mine set up.
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Old 02-27-2008, 10:12 AM   #11
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everything that is four + channels is for air, not surface. isnt this a problem???
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Old 02-27-2008, 10:56 AM   #12
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Uh, no. There are tons of surface 4 channel radio's, and spectrum radios can do either.
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Old 02-27-2008, 11:04 AM   #13
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so as long as i use a 75mhz radio and not a 72mhz radio im fine??
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Old 02-27-2008, 11:59 AM   #14
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I've toyed with the idea of dual TX/RX as well. You'd have to do some serious hacking to use both TX at once (or co-pilot!) but it would be a lot cheaper, very simple on the RX part, and awesome redundancy. Probably only work with synthesized FM or DSM, but it would be fun.
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