Originally Posted by sgtlt (Post 5928757)

looking for a tire that works best in dirt, like in a forest. we don't have a lot of rocks. proline Hryax and Krawler T/A's have been best so far

Originally Posted by JatoTheRipper (Post 5928161)

It's an unbelievable attitude to have especially when running a business and selling products.

The tires are fine, but I don't see why they got so much hype especially at the price. The sociopath running the company makes them that much less attractive.

I thought they were garbage until I put them on one of my heavier rigs (TRX-4 Bronco). Only then did the super hard carcass start compressing and the tires starting working. I got blue or silver compound - whatever he recommended - and it was way too stiff for the Sawback for which they were originally intended. It's not even the foams that are bad. It's just that the tires are different than the competition and the carcass has enough stiffness on their own to support rigs. You have to use much softer foams in KLR tires.

Originally Posted by GTSLOW (Post 5931122)

While there seems to be as much attitude in here as there is on those pages I will say this. I recently made the swap from the X4 KLRs to Predator Compound KM3s (some slight siping) and pulled some lines the KLRs couldn't. I was very unhappy with the KLR X4 side hill performance.

Nothing will get me to swap out these KM3s with PL dual stages. I love them! Did I mention they look great too!

Originally Posted by JC3 (Post 5931172)

Looking good! So, you are running the KM3's with the foams that come with the tires, the same foams front and rear?

Originally Posted by GTSLOW (Post 5931195)

I'm running the PL Dual stages (open outer/closed inner) front and rear. I've also vented the tires with 3x holes equally spread in each.

Originally Posted by JC3 (Post 5931198)

I see, thanks. I've never understood why a tire specifically designed to perform best in muddy and wet conditions is preferred in the dry as well.

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Originally Posted by Browneye (Post 5931203)

Cuz it's a tire for a toy. ;-)

Out of a half-dozen top-tier tires I've tried on all my rigs, the KM3's grip the best. The only tire I would like to see challenge it is the Hyrax Predator - have not tried those. They are the least scale looking so I've never bought a set. Now with the KM3's probly never will. 8)

CI foams work well too. The 4.5's with firm outers are pretty darn squishy but don't twist up the sidewall.

IMO they have a nicer profile than the RB XL's. Interesting though, my RB 'scalers' they're calling them now - the 4.45's with Komp are nearly as good.

Originally Posted by JC3 (Post 5931217)

FWIW, the Canyon Trails are easily the equal to a set of Hyrax's or Super Swamper's. I run side by side with my friend who uses both. We run wet, dry, and in mud. He prefers the Swampers over the Hyrax.

I've got a set of the ProLine dual foams. Currently trying a set of Pitbull single stage foams. Both have been used in my Canyon Trails. So far I like the single stage foams more.

When the Canyon Trails wear out, I'm looking for a replacement and the KM3's might be worth a try. Thanks for the feedback.



Excellent info! We do quite a bit of side hilling so I'm really glad to have that feedback. Do you run a heavy rig? I run mine lite, around 7.5 pounds.

Originally Posted by GTSLOW (Post 5931234)

My friends are the same. We love the off camber technical stuff.

My rig comes in right at 6lbs.

Originally Posted by Stormin2u (Post 5931271)

Tires perform differently on different rock types across the country. Then consider weather temperature foam wheel width and vehicle weight. Because what works in one part of this vast country is no guarantee it works the same in yours. The best knowledge of tire performance for any tire is always local.

Ottsix is a good manufacturer and a kindly sponsors of many of our events. There was a day not that long ago were the choices were few and had limited performance. We should be glad we have so many choices today, it wasn't always like this. All of our Manufacturers and Vendors support us and should be treated with respect it's in all of our best interest. IMO thats not exactly what happened here in a few cases.