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rob_b 08-14-2011 07:59 PM

rob_b's Little Lathe Rebuild
 
Well I finally broke down and bought a mini-lathe. It's been a long time coming but for the past couple years every time I had the money I would end up building a new r/c car. Briefly entertained buying a used machine but in the end I prefer tinkering with new stuff.

There are a million places to pick these machines up but I decided on the Grizzly 7x12. What I like about Grizzly is that they stock all of the parts if something needs replaced.

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/t...ning/g8688.jpg


They come slopped with a heavy coating of grease so the first thing you have to do is disassemble the machine and give it a thorough cleaning. Some people see this as a bad thing but really its not, you get to see how everything works and in my case make some modifications.

Here is the cute little bastard broken down and cleaned up.

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/t...g/IMG_3837.jpg


On the main unit I have already cleaned up the gearbox and adjusted all of the gear mesh'es (the gears came set with zero backlash and were literally all jammed together:shock:). Not sure if I just got lucky or not but the OD of the spindle has approx .0001" runout and the ID taper has about .0003". I have not indicated the chuck yet.

While it was torn down for cleaning I am lapping all of the sliding surfaces to improve the overall quality of the machine and reduce chatter. Lapping is a process where you use an abrasive compound to wear two surfaces against each other to remove the high points and increase contact area. Here you can see some of the parts broken down, cleaned and lapped.

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/t...g/IMG_3833.jpg


It's hard to show but in the large flat area you can see the rotary machining marks vs. the long straight "grain" of the angled area that has been lapped.

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/t...g/IMG_3839.jpg


So as of now the compound and cross slide have been lapped and are offering a very smooth motion. Next up is lapping the main ways. First though you have to set the height of the carriage strips. It is recommended to set the strips to a .040" clearance with the carriage, test fit and reduce the clearance between carriage and the ways to .001".

Here I have a .010" and .030" feeler gauge pre-setting the height of the saddle strips.

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/t...g/IMG_3838.jpg


Installed the carriage on the ways and set-up my new best friend, the .0005" Test Indicator.

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/t...g/IMG_3840.jpg

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/t...g/IMG_3830.jpg


First I zero'ed the dial.

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/t...g/IMG_3831.jpg


Then pushed down on the carriage to see how much it moved. On this side it was just shy of .012" so I need to reduce the strip clearance by .011".

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/t...g/IMG_3832.jpg


Now zero the other side.

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/t...g/IMG_3834.jpg


Press down and the dial reads .013" meaning I need to reduce clearance on that side by .012" to get to my .001".

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/t...g/IMG_3835.jpg


So I guess, I was slightly off setting the height of the strip or something else is up. I'm not sure yet. Just for reference a human hair is roughly .001" in width.



Maybe more tomorrow night, I am really enjoying this so far"thumbsup"

travis c. 08-14-2011 08:07 PM

I did all of the same stuff to Chump's lathe when I got it home.;-)




































Yeah right!:ror:

rob_b 08-14-2011 08:11 PM

Wouldn't expect any less from you King Travis:flipoff:

travis c. 08-14-2011 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rob_b (Post 3232622)
Wouldn't expect any less from you King Travis:flipoff:

ZZZZZZZZZZIIIINNNNNGGGGGGGGGG!:ror:

MTHead 08-14-2011 08:25 PM

Sweet, once you get it all dialed in you can come over and do mine... :ror::ror:

jeepman128 08-14-2011 09:06 PM

The Goal has shown itself once again :mrgreen:

rob_b 08-14-2011 09:23 PM

What lathe do you have John and more importantly does your garage have a/c?


True story Kolby, I'm a believer "thumbsup"

Erik D_lux 08-14-2011 11:09 PM

Cool thread rob!

I have one of these sitting in the corner not getting used because I just dont want to mess with it. I will be keeping an eye on this thread for some more good tips.

DwaneO 08-14-2011 11:17 PM

Holly Cow , looks like you spent more on measuring devices than you did on the lathe.......
.0005".....really????

WOW


OK , hurry up and make something already.
Send me a link to the 4 jaw you want too.

losikid 08-14-2011 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DwaneO (Post 3232896)
Holly Cow , looks like you spent more on measuring devices than you did on the lathe.......
.0005".....really????

WOW


OK , hurry up and make something already.
Send me a link to the 4 jaw you want too.

I don't have one...but when i was setting the machines up in my mach class at the cc i was using a dial indicator that was down .0001 little ticky's, went to +/- .001. The project i had to use that fine guy, i was milling a 6" stretch and had to be within .0005" on the height from one side to the other (i can't remember the term used for). So that milling head had to be dead on perfect square with the part/table.

I think the .0005 indicator he has is pretty standard...we had like 15 of them, which is pretty good considering we only had 10 edge finders :roll:

sloppy 08-14-2011 11:42 PM

Getting the saddle set right is the worst part on these things..

rob_b 08-15-2011 07:55 AM

Thanks Erik, it's been a fun project so far.

Dwane, losikid is correct, it's a standard test indicator .030" travel with .0005" divisions. The really preceice ones have .008" travel with .0001" divisions. I ended up buying three cheaper indicator's because the best ones would have exceeded the cost of the lathe itself. As it stands I have roughly the same value wrapped up in tooling just to get started. Trust me, I want to make some parts NOW but it will be worth it to get the little guy tuned in.

Yeah, setting those strips will take a bit of patience since none of the screws are very accessible while it's mounted.

MTHead 08-15-2011 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rob_b (Post 3232736)
What lathe do you have John and more importantly does your garage have a/c?

It's a typical China copy, I picked it up locally for $500.00. They were imported by "Big Dogs" on the bay. Only difference is it has a digital RPM meter.. :roll:

and NO!!! I'm freaking DYING out there this time of year :ror:

BTW,
http://littlemachineshop.com/product...ory=1963256898

Worth every penny.. :mrgreen:

sloppy 08-15-2011 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTHead (Post 3233211)
It's a typical China copy, I picked it up locally for $500.00. They were imported by "Big Dogs" on the bay. Only difference is it has a digital RPM meter.. :roll:

and NO!!! I'm freaking DYING out there this time of year :ror:

BTW,
http://littlemachineshop.com/product...ory=1963256898

Worth every penny.. :mrgreen:

Thats the one I have to.. I think if I had it to do again I would get a wedge type.. not to mention the tapers on the tool holders are just terrible, Could just be QC on that brand and yours is good but mine sucks..

rob_b 08-15-2011 10:01 AM

Sounds like you can make two of the covers we were talking about then:mrgreen: It's to keep the swarf out of the carriage gears.

Yep that's the QCTP I bought too...

If it is a total failure I'll probably get this setup. Wish I would have seen it before I ordered:roll:

Robbob 08-15-2011 12:19 PM

Make anything yet :mrgreen:

sloppy 08-15-2011 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rob_b (Post 3233253)
Sounds like you can make two of the covers we were talking about then:mrgreen: It's to keep the swarf out of the carriage gears.

Yep that's the QCTP I bought too...

If it is a total failure I'll probably get this setup. Wish I would have seen it before I ordered:roll:

That is the one I wish I would have went with. And I probably will switch to it or something similar.. The wedge type seem to be a little better..

rob_b 08-15-2011 12:44 PM

If nothing else the wedge style should give you a more repeatable tool position.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbob (Post 3233453)
Make anything yet :mrgreen:

:flipoff: Send your gears!

travis c. 08-15-2011 02:32 PM

The title of this thread makes it sound like a fairy tale.:flipoff:

Especially if you say your name as it looks..............Robbie:ror:

rob_b 08-15-2011 02:35 PM

Are you the hookah smoking caterpillar?


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