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Sethmetal 02-16-2013 05:12 PM

Battery Upgrade
 
So, the 2000ma 2s run time is ok, but I want more.

I remember reading that the battery tray is designed to accommodate a bigger battery.

The only things I can find here is where people changed the motor and esc and went 3s.

What is the biggest 2s that will fit in this beast. I'm sure I'm not the only one who will want this upgrade.

fvrr 02-16-2013 05:27 PM

Re: Battery Upgrade
 
I've got a bunch of 1320's 2s I use to run in my scaler but I can put them together for 2700 I know my 2250 3s fits also.

SStone 02-16-2013 05:42 PM

Re: Battery Upgrade
 
I ordered the Dynamite 2s 4000mah with my TH. It is the factory battery upgrade. I have not tried it yet. Haven't even killed the factory 2000mah. It was too cold out today to drain the stock battery.

Sethmetal 02-16-2013 07:17 PM

Thanks for the replies!!!

How are the run times on the 4000?

The 2000 isn't bad, but I'm used to the times with my 5000ma in my 45T wraith.

LGrocks 02-16-2013 08:29 PM

Re: Battery Upgrade
 
RockConcepts had a battery rec in Badger's thread here:
http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/vater...ml#post4157417

Any of the "shorty" 2S lipo's should fit fine in the TH. I think the shorty packs were originally intended for the Losi 22.

Im looking at these Turnigy nano-tech Shorty 4200mah 2S2P 65~130C Hardcase Lipo Pack (ROAR APPROVED)

and this Dynamite 7.4V 4000mAh 2S 30C LiPo, 96mm, 22

and this Losi Xcelorin 2S Li-Poly 60C Car Battery Pack (7.4V/3800mAh) (96mm) [LOSB9880] | RC Cars & Trucks - A Main Hobbies

I'm thinking with 4000mah pack run time should be around an hour give or take.

theclimber 02-17-2013 12:46 PM

Re: Battery Upgrade
 
the stock 2000mah was preety nice, but i'm used to my venom creeper with 1300(about an hour) and 55T motor.
i may buy this gens ace 4200 lipo:
Gens Ace 60C 4200mah 2 Cell Lipo Battery Shorty-Pack for 1:10 2WD Buggy, 1:10 Touring (Front Wheel Drive)

LGrocks 02-17-2013 01:15 PM

Re: Battery Upgrade
 
Yea I like that Gens Ace too. Better than Turnigy matter of fact. But it's been out of stock for a couple weeks.

littledvl 02-17-2013 03:00 PM

Re: Battery Upgrade
 
Been using my sky 2200mah lipos, they fit perfect in the TH.

Sethmetal 02-17-2013 08:29 PM

I go the dynamite 4000 on line. We shall see.

SStone 02-17-2013 08:37 PM

Re: Battery Upgrade
 
About 2 minutes into my planned runtime test for the Dynamite 4000mah shorty pack, my shift servo died. I've never experienced a servo-death before but when my shift servo went, the entire rig went dead... Once I figured out that the shift servo was dead, I unplugged it to find that my TH would at least accelerate and steer again.

Planning on running it on the rocks in the back yard tomorrow in 1st gear only to see what kind of runtime I could get on a trail run. I will post my findings here.

ROLANDROCKSHOP 02-17-2013 10:27 PM

Re: Battery Upgrade
 
ive got a 2800mah in mine..and probably as big as ill go with this rig.

a bigger battery is gonna throw off how it jumps and add more
weight to the rear.

LGrocks 02-17-2013 10:31 PM

Re: Battery Upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ROLANDROCKSHOP (Post 4186709)
ive got a 2800mah in mine..and probably as big as ill go with this rig.

a bigger battery is gonna throw off how it jumps and add more
weight to the rear.

I was wondering about that. Exactly which 2800mah are you using? And what run time are you getting?

SCALER14 02-17-2013 10:52 PM

Re: Battery Upgrade
 
Can I put a venom 5000mah 2s lipo on the stock electronics? I know it will need modification. Just wondering if that will damage the esc and whatnot

LGrocks 02-17-2013 11:09 PM

Re: Battery Upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SCALER14 (Post 4186747)
Can I put a venom 5000mah 2s lipo on the stock electronics? I know it will need modification. Just wondering if that will damage the esc and whatnot

Yea that battery will work fine w/stock electrics. But you'll have to MAKE it fit and it'll be a lot of weight high in the chassis.

SCALER14 02-18-2013 12:24 AM

Re: Battery Upgrade
 
Yeah it will but heck for an hour of run time it's worth it! I'll probably put weight in the front wheels to even it out!

northernerbill 02-18-2013 12:35 AM

Re: Battery Upgrade
 
I've just ordered the hobbyKing 4200mah 96mm lipo. Same dimensions.

$33 I think they are. Turnigy Nanotech.

IAJTYWU 02-20-2013 07:26 AM

Re: Battery Upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by northernerbill (Post 4186834)
I've just ordered the hobbyKing 4200mah 96mm lipo. Same dimensions.

$33 I think they are. Turnigy Nanotech.

Here comes the newb questions.. :-)
Does that fit in the stock location? Can I use charger that came with TH for that battery or any other lipo for that matter?

northernerbill 02-20-2013 11:37 AM

Re: Battery Upgrade
 
The stock charger strangley uses the balance leads to charge. It will take a long time to charge a 4200mah with that one.

I bought these because they do fit being 96mm.
http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...ps30d380ed.jpg

BKcrawler 02-20-2013 01:08 PM

Re: Battery Upgrade
 
The battery is easy to get to and change so I don't see the need to slap big heavy packs. just get a couple of small packs.

I ran a 2200 3s and got about 45mins of runtime out of it i think... didn't time the session. I had another pack ready to go...

IAJTYWU 02-20-2013 01:59 PM

Re: Battery Upgrade
 
Just ordered a 4200mah. I'm interested to see how long it takes to charge with the TH charger. I might need to upgrade to something better.

northernerbill 02-20-2013 03:26 PM

Re: Battery Upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BKcrawler (Post 4191526)
The battery is easy to get to and change so I don't see the need to slap big heavy packs. just get a couple of small packs.

I ran a 2200 3s and got about 45mins of runtime out of it i think... didn't time the session. I had another pack ready to go...


tbh it aint that big, and it certainly aint heavy. I'm the opposite cant be dealing with pockets full of batteries and having to change them. I noticed last weekend how much difference there was between my 1800 and 2000 especially into 50% of its run time.
My car is not squatting any lower on these. But note I am using mine for crawling.

LGrocks 02-20-2013 05:14 PM

Re: Battery Upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IAJTYWU (Post 4191596)
Just ordered a 4200mah. I'm interested to see how long it takes to charge with the TH charger. I might need to upgrade to something better.

The stock charger will probably take about 3 hrs to charge that 4200. Maybe a little more.

BKcrawler 02-20-2013 05:48 PM

Re: Battery Upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by northernerbill (Post 4191754)
tbh it aint that big, and it certainly aint heavy. I'm the opposite cant be dealing with pockets full of batteries and having to change them. I noticed last weekend how much difference there was between my 1800 and 2000 especially into 50% of its run time.
My car is not squatting any lower on these. But note I am using mine for crawling.

true. Since i'm in NYC and don't own a car to get to run spots I tend to travel light. so less batteries and tools the better.

sb4pro 03-06-2013 02:30 PM

Re: Battery Upgrade
 
Anyone know if a 6 cell or 7 cell hump pack will fit . I HATE LIPOs !!!

kikcaffine 03-06-2013 05:01 PM

Re: Battery Upgrade
 
why you hate lipos? You could prob get one of those tiny 1200mah NIMH packs from the rc18 series to fit

sb4pro 03-06-2013 05:22 PM

Re: Battery Upgrade
 
I had 1 blow up and swore NEVER AGAIN

LGrocks 03-06-2013 06:45 PM

Re: Battery Upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sb4pro (Post 4215719)
Anyone know if a 6 cell or 7 cell hump pack will fit . I HATE LIPOs !!!

Not even close to fitting. Run time will suck with a NiMh that'll fit.

sb4pro 03-06-2013 08:03 PM

Re: Battery Upgrade
 
Think ill try the rc18 pack then if not guess ill suck it up and go to the LiPo . It's just too cool a RC not to buy .

bmangdog 03-26-2013 11:47 PM

Re: Battery Upgrade
 
Will a 3 cell hurt it all all?

Mnocton 03-27-2013 08:47 AM

Re: Battery Upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bmangdog (Post 4248649)
Will a 3 cell hurt it all all?

A three cell nimh or 3s lipo? A 3 cell nimh would probably last a few minutes...just creeping along (OG Tamiya). A 3s lipo would toast the stock esc. Plenty of guys are running 3s, but they have upgraded the electronics and geared accordingly.

Blinkfan5150 03-27-2013 08:52 AM

Holmes Hobby and Horizon support both say a 3 cell lipo will burn stock TH esc

Blinkfan5150 03-28-2013 02:55 PM

I'm upgrading to Holmes Hobby ESC so what 3s lipo we using to substitute for the 4000mAh dynamite? I want a big battery

DJOHN 03-28-2013 07:26 PM

Re: Battery Upgrade
 
Im runing a holmes brxl and an old 12t double in mine right now. Im also running the large 3300 2s losi pack for the lcc. Run time with that is about 25 minutes with ample full throttle runs. I did try that setup with a 1300 3s I have for a crawler. It is so crazy i didn't run it long for fear of hitting something and having to replace half the vehicle! 3s is insane with a 12t! later.

greengoblin 03-28-2013 07:49 PM

Re: Battery Upgrade
 
Im runing the Dynamite 2s 4000mah . It is the factory battery upgrade and the run time is about 1.5hr of run .



http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k2...psda2d9171.jpg

MachtSchnell 03-28-2013 11:01 PM

Re: Battery Upgrade
 
So there are a few people running turnigy 3s lipos. And Turnigy has a few different 2200mAh 3s cells ranging from 20c-60c, costing from under $10 to about $20 a piece.

What are most people's opinions on Turnigy's lipos?
I don't want to deal with a cheap pack that could possibly vent with flame without provocation.

Anyone know of a site where you can narrow search results by battery size dimensions, rather than capacity, charge, and discharge rate? Or does anyone know of some 3s lipo cells that will fit in the stock twin hammers' battery tray?

Blinkfan5150 03-28-2013 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greengoblin (Post 4251464)
Im runing the Dynamite 2s 4000mah . It is the factory battery upgrade and the run time is about 1.5hr of run .

That's what I'm running. Good run time!

neil.b 03-29-2013 05:26 AM

Re: Battery Upgrade
 
I have a couple of the turnigy nano 4.2's and they work great, the run times are roughly twice that of the standard pack.

l36pontiac 03-29-2013 08:24 PM

Re: Battery Upgrade
 
if u cant solder very good like me, get some of these from tower with deans already on them(they have other fittings) TowerHobbies.com | Duratrax Onyx LiPo 2S 7.4V 2000mAh 25C Soft Case Deans i just for 3 for mine and they fit perfect.

mardim 06-20-2013 09:15 AM

Re: Battery Upgrade
 
Hi! Need yours help!
I'm a greedy noob - ordered TH and a huge LiPo 5200 (140x48x25mm). Can I somehow fit it onboard? Or just to buy something fittable?

LGrocks 06-20-2013 10:04 AM

Re: Battery Upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mardim (Post 4368968)
Hi! Need yours help!
I'm a greedy noob - ordered TH and a huge LiPo 5200 (140x48x25mm). Can I somehow fit it onboard? Or just to buy something fittable?

It won't fit. And is too heavy anyway.

Try this one. It'll fit the stock battery tray nicely.

Turnigy nano-tech Shorty 4200mah 2S2P 65~130C Hardcase Lipo Pack (ROAR APPROVED)


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