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wheelbyte 12-28-2013 06:12 PM

Wheelbyte's Twin Hammers
 
Got back into RC's awhile back spent the last year or so building up a couple 2WD Slash's for my son and I to have fun with... its been a blast. A few months ago I purchased a Twin Hammers as I was looking for something a little more scale and would be fun to trail as well as go out with my kids and still bash once in awhile.

Finally decided it was time to start a build thread.

Started with ESC and motor upgrade alonf with Aluminum hex's and 500K diff fluid.

MMP & Tekin ROC412 3100kv
http://www.wheelbyte.com/b_board/TH1.jpg

http://www.wheelbyte.com/b_board/TH2.jpg


I originally shot the stock body with PlastiDip while it looked cool it did not hold up all that well
http://www.wheelbyte.com/b_board/TH5.jpg

I recently added the Derwood front shock mount along with their steering kit. I am also running 90mm Kings up front and the 110mm Faux PiggyBacks out back

http://www.wheelbyte.com/b_board/TH11.jpg

http://www.wheelbyte.com/b_board/TH6.jpg

I also added a Jevine Racing battery tray along with some Carter Fab panels
http://www.wheelbyte.com/b_board/TH7.jpg

http://www.wheelbyte.com/b_board/TH8.jpg

http://www.wheelbyte.com/b_board/TH9.jpg

I recently got some GearHead Sixer Beadlocks and am going to run the RC4WD Mickey Thompson 4.19 Baja Claws

http://www.wheelbyte.com/b_board/TH10.jpg

Will have to post more photos once I get them mounted up......

Ballistic17 12-28-2013 06:31 PM

Re: Wheelbyte's Twin Hammers
 
That's a nice transformation. Rims look great.

mojave450rider 12-28-2013 06:46 PM

Re: Wheelbyte's Twin Hammers
 
Mount up those new wheels cause I wanted to buy them and want to see how they look on a TH!

wheelbyte 12-29-2013 09:02 PM

Re: Wheelbyte's Twin Hammers
 
Here are a few shots of the wheels mounted up......

Gearhead Sixer Beadlocks
RC4WD Mickey Thompson Baja Claws 4.19's

http://www.wheelbyte.com/b_board/TH12.jpg


http://www.wheelbyte.com/b_board/TH13.jpg

Hoser1869 12-29-2013 09:44 PM

Re: Wheelbyte's Twin Hammers
 
how u like the roc412? i currently thinking about getting one, i have MMP and a velineon 3500 goes fast but still cogs when crawling

wheelbyte 12-29-2013 10:24 PM

Re: Wheelbyte's Twin Hammers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoser1869 (Post 4606043)
how u like the roc412? i currently thinking about getting one, i have MMP and a velineon 3500 goes fast but still cogs when crawling

I love it..... Super smooth and tons of torque. I have a veilneon in my slash and it's a nice motor too but the roc412 is different beast. I have not messed with gearing on my TH and am running stock gearing so it's a tad slower than my slash but plenty of speed for this platform.

Hoser1869 12-29-2013 10:31 PM

Re: Wheelbyte's Twin Hammers
 
i have have heard nothing bad about this motor, so im gonna order it. Are u running sensored? if so does it crawl well with no cogging? im just running the velineon temporary in my TH till i find the motor i like, and im sure its the roc412 3100kv

Pockets70 12-30-2013 12:16 AM

Re: Wheelbyte's Twin Hammers
 
Be cautious with those 90mm shocks. You'll have too much downstroke on jumps and the front CV's will pop out unless you internally limit them. Quite a few people have had that happen ...myself included :(

wheelbyte 12-30-2013 12:36 AM

Re: Wheelbyte's Twin Hammers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoser1869 (Post 4606096)
i have have heard nothing bad about this motor, so im gonna order it. Are u running sensored? if so does it crawl well with no cogging? im just running the velineon temporary in my TH till i find the motor i like, and im sure its the roc412 3100kv

Yeah I am running it "smart" sensored with the Castle MMP. No cogging at all very smooth throttle throughout the entire range.

wheelbyte 12-30-2013 12:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pockets70 (Post 4606184)
Be cautious with those 90mm shocks. You'll have too much downstroke on jumps and the front CV's will pop out unless you internally limit them. Quite a few people have had that happen ...myself included :(

No problems so far with the 90mm Kings.......I'll have to keep an eye on them though.

biggamehunter 12-31-2013 07:05 AM

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love it !!!!!!!!!! great job , it realy does look a professional upgrade

wheelbyte 01-18-2014 07:20 PM

Re: Wheelbyte's Twin Hammers
 
So did a few more upgrades.....

Blue Monkey Stage 2 Suspension Kit
-Upper Ti Links
-Lower dual mount arms
-upper shock mounting kit
-added RC4WD ultra scale 110mm shocks to run as damperners. Removed the internal spring and added 20wt oil to them


http://www.wheelbyte.com/b_board/TH14.jpg

http://www.wheelbyte.com/b_board/TH15.jpg

Alpha Male 01-18-2014 08:27 PM

Re: Wheelbyte's Twin Hammers
 
That looks awesome! "thumbsup"

Neverdone 01-19-2014 11:52 AM

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I like it!!!! double shock in the back looks sweet!

ndi_guy 01-20-2014 07:15 PM

Re: Wheelbyte's Twin Hammers
 
Where did you get the Gearhead wheels from? Everywhere I have checked doesn't have them in stock.

wheelbyte 01-21-2014 09:05 AM

Re: Wheelbyte's Twin Hammers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ndi_guy (Post 4637143)
Where did you get the Gearhead wheels from? Everywhere I have checked doesn't have them in stock.

I got them at RPP Hobby...... But I see both the Hammer 5 spoke and the Sixer are both out of stock at the moment.

MrJugger 01-22-2014 12:33 PM

Re: Wheelbyte's Twin Hammers
 
Congrats on your build Wheelbyte. Really looks super nice.
I am a big fan of your double rear shocks too!

U F'n A Racing 01-22-2014 10:19 PM

Re: Wheelbyte's Twin Hammers
 
I really dig those wheels too. But, I haven't been able to find them either. Dig your TH BTW, nice work.

yeezus 01-23-2014 08:36 PM

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those wheels r soo expensivee

ndi_guy 01-23-2014 09:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yeezus (Post 4641481)
those wheels r soo expensivee

Hunh? $100 for 4 high quality wheels isn't bad at all and they come with everything you need to mount them up. Not like the Vanquish wheels. Now those are high dollar.

wheelbyte 01-31-2014 10:19 PM

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Upgraded the steering servo this week. As soon as I saw the Holmes Trailmaster BLS HV400 I knew this was the servo for me. The specs are very impressive. It is a huge improvement over the stock one.... night and day difference in speed and torque and thats running it with the weak built in BEC in the MMP. I plan to add a Castle 5amp BEC in the near future and bump up the voltage a bit.

For now I am going to continue to run the stock shifting servo as I have had no problems with it.

http://www.wheelbyte.com/b_board/TH16.jpg


http://www.wheelbyte.com/b_board/TH17.jpg

Hoser1869 01-31-2014 10:30 PM

Re: Wheelbyte's Twin Hammers
 
wheelbyte u inspired me to get a roc412 3100, this motor is amazing SOOO much power but i dont need to tell u that lol ty sir

wheelbyte 02-16-2014 11:07 AM

Re: Wheelbyte's Twin Hammers
 
Added a few more things.....wife stoked me out on Vday and got me a Gift Certificate to RPP. :)

MIP X-Duty driveshaft
Vanquish RIGID INDUSTRIES 4" LED light bar Silver & mounts
Vanquish caster blocks and steering knuckles

http://www.wheelbyte.com/b_board/TH19.jpg


http://www.wheelbyte.com/b_board/TH20.jpg

kookie31 02-16-2014 12:06 PM

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This has to be one of the nicest TH on this site (or anywhere that I know of) and it keeps getting better. Just awesome!

Debonair 03-04-2014 10:58 AM

Re: Wheelbyte's Twin Hammers
 
Very nice build!

happydood 03-13-2014 06:55 AM

This is a sweet looking Hammer! Great job!

wheelbyte 03-16-2014 09:47 PM

Re: Wheelbyte's Twin Hammers
 
Made it out and finished to my first RECON G6 this Sat at the Taters & Kilt event @ Rollins Lake. It was a blast!!! My rig made it through the 100+ gates with no breakage and the brushless setup with stock gearing I did it on 1 1/2 2200mAh 3s packs.

I did notice in a few areas where even with the 500k diff fluid up front it was not enough.... next event I might try locking it up. I also gotta get my drag brake set up better. Other than that I was pretty happy on my rigs performance.

http://www.wheelbyte.com/b_board/TH21.jpg

http://www.wheelbyte.com/b_board/TH22.jpg

http://www.wheelbyte.com/b_board/TH24.jpg

n8welch 03-17-2014 11:54 AM

Sweet Hammer my friend!!! I just got one myself. I ran it with my club yesterday for the first time. It did really well. Its a fun rig.

This is Ford country, on a quiet night you can hear a Chevy rust.

onecool54@yahoo 03-18-2014 10:39 PM

What size shock are you running next to the king shock.

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wheelbyte 03-18-2014 10:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by onecool54@yahoo (Post 4714394)
What size shock are you running next to the king shock.

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Both shocks in the rear are 110mm. Kings & RC4WD ultimate scale. I'm running the RC4WD ultimate scale as dampners only I have removed the internal springs and filed them with 20wt oil.

phllint 03-19-2014 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheelbyte (Post 4711875)
Made it out and finished to my first RECON G6 this Sat at the Taters & Kilt event @ Rollins Lake. It was a blast!!! My rig made it through the 100+ gates with no breakage and the brushless setup with stock gearing I did it on 1 1/2 2200mAh 3s packs.

I did notice in a few areas where even with the 500k diff fluid up front it was not enough.... next event I might try locking it up. I also gotta get my drag brake set up better. Other than that I was pretty happy on my rigs performance.

http://www.wheelbyte.com/b_board/TH21.jpg

http://www.wheelbyte.com/b_board/TH22.jpg

http://www.wheelbyte.com/b_board/TH24.jpg

Be careful locking it up. It really helps the crawling aspect but it hurts the high speed fun when you get on it. Under hard acceleration locked up they just spin all four and you do donuts instead of moving. I run mine with 100k up front and the crawling is ok but, I have even taken it to the local track and made a few laps and it competes with my 9.5 turn Losi 22t designed for that truck.

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wheelbyte 03-19-2014 08:40 AM

Re: Wheelbyte's Twin Hammers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phllint (Post 4714517)
Be careful locking it up. It really helps the crawling aspect but it hurts the high speed fun when you get on it. Under hard acceleration locked up they just spin all four and you do donuts instead of moving. I run mine with 100k up front and the crawling is ok but, I have even taken it to the local track and made a few laps and it competes with my 9.5 turn Losi 22t designed for that truck.

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Thanks, yeah I am running 500k upfront right now and there were several times I needed more running the G6. Might have to switch back and forth depending on what type of event Im running fully locked for G6 where speed is not so critical and 500k for U4RC type events.

wheelbyte 03-28-2014 11:03 AM

Re: Wheelbyte's Twin Hammers
 
Finally got around to installing the rear lights on my rig. They have been sitting in a box for a couple weeks. I used the HeyOK KOH lighting kit, EXO rear lightbar and a modified Carter Fab ultra 4 roof. Slid the entire roof about an inch forward, trimmed, rebent and redrilled to get the lights up higher and tuck them in closer.

The blue and amber flash and the reds are brake lights.


http://www.wheelbyte.com/b_board/TH25.jpg

http://www.wheelbyte.com/b_board/TH26.jpg

http://www.wheelbyte.com/b_board/TH27.jpg

http://www.wheelbyte.com/b_board/TH28.jpg

onecool54@yahoo 03-30-2014 11:53 PM

Did CFD do your hood also? I made 1 out of lexan kinda like it.

wheelbyte 03-31-2014 12:12 PM

Re: Wheelbyte's Twin Hammers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by onecool54@yahoo (Post 4728754)
Did CFD do your hood also? I made 1 out of lexan kinda like it.


Yeah it is a Carter Fab hood but I cut the hole for the shock uprights.

Mr Hyde 04-01-2014 04:18 AM

Re: Wheelbyte's Twin Hammers
 
Ur rig u s one of the cleanest TH I have seen"thumbsup"

Daddy 04-01-2014 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheelbyte (Post 4714414)
Both shocks in the rear are 110mm. Kings & RC4WD ultimate scale. I'm running the RC4WD ultimate scale as dampners only I have removed the internal springs and filed them with 20wt oil.


I also have 110 kings ( on my honcho ) I wish someone would make a new piston for them cas stock piston is horrible ( I have 60wt oil in them now and when you move the axle it feels like 15wt haha ) no tuning / dampening with stock piston ! They just look cool and I'm kinda over that , I want them to perform !


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wheelbyte 04-01-2014 02:01 PM

Re: Wheelbyte's Twin Hammers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Daddy (Post 4729985)
I also have 110 kings ( on my honcho ) I wish someone would make a new piston for them cas stock piston is horrible ( I have 60wt oil in them now and when you move the axle it feels like 15wt haha ) no tuning / dampening with stock piston ! They just look cool and I'm kinda over that , I want them to perform !


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Yeah I hear ya I am running 100wt in my Kings to get some dampening out of them.... bleeding them is also a PITA. I wish they were built like the Proline Powerstrokes with a diaphram and bleeder hole. I did notice they now also make a short course version of the Kings that are bigger in dia. wonder if anyone has tried them out and how they perform.

Daddy 04-01-2014 02:47 PM

I don't think they changed the piston ( I could be wrong ) .. Looks like they just changed springs..... I have the extra spring kit.... Don't matter what springs I put on the pistons are useless... Haha


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wheelbyte 04-01-2014 04:22 PM

Re: Wheelbyte's Twin Hammers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Daddy (Post 4730514)
I don't think they changed the piston ( I could be wrong ) .. Looks like they just changed springs..... I have the extra spring kit.... Don't matter what springs I put on the pistons are useless... Haha


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Yeah the one thing I noticed is the shock body OD is larger along with thicker shaft on the Short Course shocks. The springs on the SC are the same diameter as the Proline Powerstroke springs. If the ID of the shock body is the same as the Prolines you could run the powerstroke pistons which they have a couple different valvings.

110mm Kings w Piggyback
  • Hole to Hole (Compressed): 2.95 in / 75mm
  • Hole to Hole (Uncompressed): 4.33 in / 110mm
  • Overall Length: 4.68in / 118.9mm
  • Travel Length: 1.37in / 35mm
  • Shock Body OD: 0.39in / 10mm
  • Spring Body OD: 0.57in / 14.5mm
  • Shaft Diameter: 0.13in / 3.5mm
  • Weight: 0.9oz / 26g


110mm Short Course Kings
  • Hole to Hole (Compressed): 3.05in / 77.4 mm
  • Hole to Hole (Uncompressed): 4.33in / 110mm
  • Overall Length: 4.68in / 119mm
  • Travel Length: 1.28in / 32.6mm
  • Shock Body OD: 0.49in / 12.5mm
  • Shaft Diameter: 0.14in / 3.5mm
  • Spring Body: 0.72in / 18.5mm
  • Each Weight: 1.09oz / 31g


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