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RPP Hobby 04-07-2016 05:33 PM

SSD free spool Ox Power Winch!
 
New free spool Ox Power Winch from SSD! Modeled after the legendary Warn 8274 1:1 winch.

http://rpphobby.com/v/vspfiles/templ...%20600x450.jpg

http://rpphobby.com/v/vspfiles/templ...%20600x450.jpg

http://rpphobby.com/v/vspfiles/templ...%20600x450.jpg

CNC machined
Aluminum case
Hardened steel gears
Scale design
Free spool using spring loaded button
Motor connector plug is compatible with RC4WD winch controllers
Mounting plate has same mounting locations as RC4WD winches
Fits SSD Hawse Fairlead (SSD00013)
Fits SSD bumpers (SSD00012, SSD00046, SSD00051)
Fits RC4WD Warn Hawse Fairlead

Specs
Height: 44.3mm
Width: 66.0mm
Depth: 24.5mm
Weight: 91g

In stock now! SSD Ox Power Winch (Free Spool)

Grizzly4x4 04-07-2016 06:01 PM

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Perfect timing! I needed to place an order! :shock:

Looks a lot like the Quicksand winch. Beautiful! "thumbsup"
How much can it lift and how much voltage can it handle?

Highmark 04-07-2016 06:41 PM

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Been hoping for this for a long time. Killer work SSD.

J.Peart 04-07-2016 06:52 PM

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do you have spec's on how much it will pull?

Capwn 04-07-2016 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by J.Peart (Post 5481969)
do you have spec's on how much it will pull?

$150 out of your wallet, No happy ending even :(

Grizzly4x4 04-07-2016 08:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Capwn (Post 5481981)
$150 out of your wallet, No happy ending even :(

You shouldn't take it so seriously. I bet there is a happy ending. :ror:

nissan_driver24 04-07-2016 08:23 PM

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I guess I'll have to see how this one works against a Quicksand winch...

nissan_driver24 04-07-2016 08:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by limegalodon (Post 5482020)
Will this work with HeyOk winch controllers?


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A winch is essentially a motor, so if your previous winch controller controls a motor it should work with this one.

Grizzly4x4 04-07-2016 08:29 PM

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The specs on RPP's site say that an RC4WD or Heyok controller is recommended.

Szczerba 04-07-2016 08:35 PM

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Super awesome and rad!!!!!!!!!!


Quote:

Originally Posted by Capwn (Post 5481981)
$150 out of your wallet, No happy ending even :(

Guess you don't want to know the price of the original Quicksand winch then!

fr8cture 04-07-2016 08:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Szczerba (Post 5482034)
Super awesome and rad!!!!!!!!!!




Guess you don't want to know the price of the original Quicksand winch then!

original quicksand had videos showing how much it can pull. This doesnt even have a spec listed. I'll wait to see if its worth it. "thumbsup"

Highmark 04-07-2016 08:40 PM

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Just guessing but based on the size of the motor I doesn't look like a servo winch but larger than your typical gear motor winch. Should set somewhere between a servo winch and a gear motor winch in terms of power.

Grizzly4x4 04-07-2016 08:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Highmark (Post 5482048)
Just guessing but based on the size of the motor I doesn't look like a servo winch but larger than your typical gear motor winch. Should set somewhere between a servo winch and a gear motor winch in terms of power.

Based on the pics of it on the Deadbolt, it looks to me like the dimensions are the same as the Quicksand and that would make it a servo motor under that motor cover.
Just guessing though.

Highmark 04-07-2016 08:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by limegalodon (Post 5482047)
the original price for the QuickSand 8274 is $225 I think


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The O.G. Quicksand was massively underpriced.

Highmark 04-07-2016 08:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Grizzly4x4 (Post 5482053)
Based on the pics of it on the Deadbolt, it looks to me like the dimensions are the same as the Quicksand and that would make it a servo motor under that motor cover.
Just guessing though.

You would probably know better than me :ror:

I'm thinking it looks a little short both in terms of width (of the motor) and height (of the winch - I'm thinking gear set wouldn't have enough room ) for a servo. Also if I where to build one and try to make a decent margin of go with the much cheaper non-servo option.

nissan_driver24 04-07-2016 09:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Grizzly4x4 (Post 5482053)
Based on the pics of it on the Deadbolt, it looks to me like the dimensions are the same as the Quicksand and that would make it a servo motor under that motor cover.
Just guessing though.

I agree with ya, but hopefully it isn't a little motor with a bunch of plastic around it... It looks a lot better than most of the winches out there on the market except for the quicksand. Kinda surprised they didn't let the lever touch the brake wheel.

Grizzly4x4 04-07-2016 09:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Highmark (Post 5482067)
You would probably know better than me :ror:

I'm thinking it looks a little short both in terms of width (of the motor) and height (of the winch - I'm thinking gear set wouldn't have enough room ) for a servo. Also if I where to build one and try to make a decent margin of go with the much cheaper non-servo option.

Look at the pic mounted on the Deadbolt. The winch is sitting below the top of the framerails, down inside the bumper. If it was sitting on top of the rails it would be taller than the hood, just like a Quicksand. 8)

limegalodon 04-07-2016 09:20 PM

Will this work with HeyOk winch controllers?
It says you can use rc4wd or HeyOk winch controllers. But I don't think you can connect that little white plug to the HeyOk controller. Correct me if I'm wrong. I am considering one for my JK

This question might sound a little dumb but, will I need another BEC for the winch and winch controller? I am still not sure if I should run it off a separate battery or just connect it to the main battery.

Can someone please help me out? Do I need another BEC for the winch?


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Grizzly4x4 04-07-2016 09:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nissan_driver24 (Post 5482079)
I agree with ya, but hopefully it isn't a little motor with a bunch of plastic around it... It looks a lot better than most of the winches out there on the market except for the quicksand. Kinda surprised they didn't let the lever touch the brake wheel.

I hope so too.

Yea, I'm a little bummed the lever doesn't bounce off the brake wheel also. :ror: oh well, small complaint.
Didn't stop me from ordering mine, guess we will see soon. "thumbsup"

Grizzly4x4 04-07-2016 09:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by limegalodon (Post 5482096)
Can someone please help me out? Do I need another BEC for the winch?


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Many factors come into play. It depends on the power of the servo and the winch. Sometimes you can get away with running steering and a winch off the same BEC. You can try it, if the truck shuts down when you are winching and turning at the same time, you need another BEC.
I always run a BEC just for the winch so I don't have to worry about it.

limegalodon 04-07-2016 10:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Grizzly4x4 (Post 5482102)
Many factors come into play. It depends on the power of the servo and the winch. Sometimes you can get away with running steering and a winch off the same BEC. You can try it, if the truck shuts down when you are winching and turning at the same time, you need another BEC.
I always run a BEC just for the winch so I don't have to worry about it.



Thanks Grizzly4x4 [emoji1373][emoji1373]. Most winches can handle up to 11.1v or 3s, but my servo can only handle 7.4v or 2s (Hitec 7950TH). Do you think if I run a separate battery for the winches help solve the problem? Or should I get another BEC instead? Thanks.

Grizzly4x4 04-08-2016 12:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by limegalodon (Post 5482153)
Thanks Grizzly4x4 [emoji1373][emoji1373]. Most winches can handle up to 11.1v or 3s, but my servo can only handle 7.4v or 2s (Hitec 7950TH). Do you think if I run a separate battery for the winches help solve the problem? Or should I get another BEC instead? Thanks.


No problem. I wouldn't run a separate battery. That's a more expensive solution and it adds a lot more weight.
I run my winches off 6v, in fact the Heyok controller can only handle 6v max. I just set the CCBEC to 6v and wire it to the controller.

SSD 04-08-2016 02:05 AM

Re: SSD free spool Ox Power Winch!
 
The new SSD winch is based on a high torque servo and can work with up to 11.1v.
The motor plug is the same as the RC4WD winches so it is easy to plug into an RC4WD controller. But can be cut off for use with HeyOK controller.
It lifted over 30Kg on 11.1v.
Using a normal winch controller you can expect it to lift 15Kg.
Just make sure you have a good winch line. Most lines break before 15Kg.
I tested with Dyneema (1.0mm diameter line).

Grizzly4x4 04-08-2016 09:02 AM

Re: SSD free spool Ox Power Winch!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SSD (Post 5482198)
The new SSD winch is based on a high torque servo and can work with up to 11.1v.
The motor plug is the same as the RC4WD winches so it is easy to plug into an RC4WD controller. But can be cut off for use with HeyOK controller.
It lifted over 30Kg on 11.1v.
Using a normal winch controller you can expect it to lift 15Kg.
Just make sure you have a good winch line. Most lines break before 15Kg.
I tested with Dyneema (1.0mm diameter line).

Thank you so much for the information. I can't wait for the postman to show up with mine now!!! "thumbsup"

Highmark 04-08-2016 09:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SSD (Post 5482198)
The new SSD winch is based on a high torque servo and can work with up to 11.1v.

That's awesome news. :twisted:

Norton 04-09-2016 03:36 PM

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Mailman just dropped it off. Pretty Bad Ass! 66 lbs lift on 3s!

Norton 04-09-2016 04:45 PM

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I found some more info on it:

Notes from the manufacturer:
Requires Winch controller to operate. SSD recommends using RC4WD or HeyOK winch controllers.
Requires hook. SSD recommends RC4WD winch hooks.
The new SSD winch is based on a high torque servo and can work with up to 11.1v.
The motor plug is the same as the RC4WD winches so it is easy to plug into an RC4WD controller. But can be cut off for use with HeyOK controller.
It lifted over 30Kg (66 lbs) on 11.1v.
Using a normal winch controller you can expect it to lift 15Kg (33 lbs).
Just make sure you have a good winch line. Most lines break before 15Kg.
I tested with Dyneema (1.0mm diameter line).

Norton 04-09-2016 11:38 PM

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Just a short bench test. 9lb rig using a almost dead 3s 4400mAh and a HeyOK 4 amp relay controller, It pulls as good as my KMS 220 oz. Fully charged battery will make a big difference.

https://vimeo.com/162234719

Vengeance 04-10-2016 10:49 PM

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For $150 I expect a winch controller included.

This ala carte bs is starting to annoy me.

Kinda like SSD Yeti wide axle, the shafts that come with it are useless and bend if looked at wrong but, for another $25 you can have the SSD HD shafts.

I'll be posting a comparison of those SSD shafts this week.

Bringing the pain since 1968

micro racer 04-11-2016 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Vengeance (Post 5483914)
For $150 I expect a winch controller included.

This ala carte bs is starting to annoy me.

Kinda like SSD Yeti wide axle, the shafts that come with it are useless and bend if looked at wrong but, for another $25 you can have the SSD HD shafts.

I'll be posting a comparison of those SSD shafts this week.

Bringing the pain since 1968

But from Heyok alone there are about four or five different winch controller choices... Why should SSD jack up the price another $30-$40 just so 80% of their customers throw the crappy stock controller away and buy a better one (assuming the hypothetically included controller is a POS)?

Also, $150 is a great price, considering that it looks way better than a KMS (not bashing, I know that it is a servo winch) and supposedly performs just as good. On top of that, the KMS K2 220, which the SSD is comparable to, doesn't come with a controller and is still $20 more, but nobody complains about that...

TacoCrawler 04-11-2016 12:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Norton (Post 5483357)
Just a short bench test. 9lb rig using a almost dead 3s 4400mAh and a HeyOK 4 amp relay controller, It pulls as good as my KMS 220 oz. Fully charged battery will make a big difference.

https://vimeo.com/162234719

...seems strong enough... would be cool on my TJ

but will it look properly sized on a 1/6 scale ?
" big enough ? / your opinion please "

~ a little costly for me to make conclusion post purchase ~



looks like an old skool Warn 8274 8)


http://www.warn.com/blog/images/1731...50_revised.jpg

petina adds character 8)

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...g13/winch1.jpg


youngblood 04-11-2016 07:12 AM

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I too would like to see what this looks like on the front of a 1:6 willys

BigBaller 04-11-2016 08:46 AM

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:flipoff:...to the haters of what looks like a sweet option. If you don't like this price, good luck finding the QS. The Quicksand winch IS $350 if you can score one.

Thank you to SSD for bringing this to market! I'll be ordering a few. "thumbsup"

Grizzly4x4 04-11-2016 09:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TacoCrawler (Post 5483950)
...seems strong enough... would be cool on my TJ

but will it look properly sized on a 1/6 scale ?
" big enough ? / your opinion please "

~ a little costly for me to make conclusion post purchase ~



Quote:

Originally Posted by youngblood (Post 5484029)
I too would like to see what this looks like on the front of a 1:6 willys

I have a 1/6 Willys, when my winch gets here I can post pics of it on the bumper. I can also measure the Warn 8074 in my garage and get a true scale.

Norton 04-11-2016 10:13 AM

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Here it is just sitting on the 1/6 Jeep flatbed.

SSD 04-11-2016 10:41 AM

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There was no attmept to match a scale on this winch. Just as small as possible with servo internals.

Grizzly4x4 04-11-2016 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SSD (Post 5484137)
There was no attmept to match a scale on this winch. Just as small as possible with servo internals.

Understandable. "thumbsup"

fr8cture 04-11-2016 12:22 PM

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winch is way to small for the 1/6 jeep based on 1:1 pictures but no winch really looks to scale on a 1/6th imo.

Vengeance 04-11-2016 04:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by micro racer (Post 5483947)
But from Heyok alone there are about four or five different winch controller choices... Why should SSD jack up the price another $30-$40 just so 80% of their customers throw the crappy stock controller away and buy a better one (assuming the hypothetically included controller is a POS)?

Also, $150 is a great price, considering that it looks way better than a KMS (not bashing, I know that it is a servo winch) and supposedly performs just as good. On top of that, the KMS K2 220, which the SSD is comparable to, doesn't come with a controller and is still $20 more, but nobody complains about that...

It is my understanding that KMS winches ar all hand fabricated, so yeah I expect them to be more.

I would assume that SSD has some sort of manufacturing be it in house, 3rd party regional or China. That being the case their price point should be the same with a quality winch controller.

Mass build a product as good or better for less and include the required controller, not one that will burn out/up, and you will sell enough units to allow for a lower msrp and still make a profit.

However, SSD, who's products I do use, kind of sullied the experience when I bought their Yeti wide rear axle then come to realize to really get what you originally bought it for you have to buy their HD shafts due to the shafts that come with the axle bend like butter.

Agreeing or disagreeing with my opinion has no bearing on said opinion.

And I am not saying anything bad about their winch. I just don't happen to like the fact they won't offer it at that price point without a decent controller.

I have no problem spending money on this hobby, I have a lot invested in all of my comp rigs. However, the money I spend has to be justifiable.

Bringing the pain since 1968

SSD 04-12-2016 03:44 AM

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There didn't seem much point in including an controller and hook and then increasing the price. Most of the buyers of this product product will likely already own winches and have a good quality controller and problably many hooks.

Anyway, your assumption about price/profit is wrong.


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