Radio Control Crawling Association Vehicle Definitions and Judging
 

Traditional Comp class Rulesets and judging - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

Modified Trail Vehicles- https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

Unlimited Vehicles- https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

General Event guidelines- https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

Re: RCCA / USRCCA Rulesets
 

can you post the usrcca rules in a pdf format or word document the links dont work for me... thanks

Re: RCCA / USRCCA Rulesets
 

Hi team,

Just reviewing the rules and have a quick question about the traditional comp class rules.

Rule 2.1.6 no longer exists in the rules. They jump from 2.1.5.x straight to 2.1.7

Can you please confirm if 2.1.6 has been removed, or is omitted in error?

This rule (2.1.6) was to do with fixed mounting points for suspension.

Cheers,
Mike.

Re: RCCA / USRCCA Rulesets
 

Interesting.
There is no 2.1.6 in the 2013 (2014) ruleset either.

Re: RCCA / USRCCA Rulesets
 

So, do we take it that rule 2.1.6 has officially been removed?

Where is the rules committee?
Anyone?

Cheers
Mike

Re: RCCA / USRCCA Rulesets
 

What rule committee?
the only committee now is John himself.

Re: RCCA / USRCCA Rulesets
 

I released rule committee since things had stagnated and few were actually doing work. Rules have just been rolled forwards as I recieved them to keep all rigs in spec, I do not anticipate any material changes except for some tweaks on trail class that will loosen restrictions further. Once we get back in a groove and get a headcount of active clubs and members I would like to use RC ORVA to involve members with voting issues and rep elections. But as of right now I'm basically a dictator with a long term goal, having too many hands in the cookie jar was just hurting the organizations ability to move forwards. It ain't the rules that make it fun anyway, it's the hosts and competitors that really matter.

Re: RCCA / USRCCA Rulesets
 

One thing I am changing is the whole 3.4.3.6.4.1.1 listing crapola. It's gonna be line xxxx in document revision xx, and if something is removed it doesn't change the whole order and listing. It just changes the revision and maybe the line number. Huge problem of revising rules that I could never get changed by comittee or owners, so I'm only going to fix that nagging skip once. And it's not going to be renaming everything under section two!

Re: RCCA / USRCCA Rulesets
 

Aww crap, I really liked rule 3.4.3.6.4.1.1

Re: RCCA / USRCCA Rulesets
 

2.5.6 and 2.5.8 contradict each other. I would imagine 2.5.8 is supposed to be omitted?

Re: RCCA / USRCCA Rulesets
 

Actually, they don't.
2.2 Shafty has to have a body as per 2.5.6
Body has to be the required size as per 2.5.8

2.5.7 is duplicated, though.

Re: RCCA / USRCCA Rulesets
 

Actually, they do. Read it a little closer:

2.5.6 refers to 2.3.6. (2.3.6 states 8" x 3" x 3" dimensions)

2.5.8 states 12.5" x 5" x 3"

Looks quite contradictory to me...?

Re: RCCA / USRCCA Rulesets
 

Pretty sure 2.5.6 is the MOA chassis dimensions.

2.5.8 is the Sportsman body dimensions.

Re: RCCA / USRCCA Rulesets
 

No, everything "2.5" is Class 4 = Class 2.2 Shafty (Sportsman)

I believe the purpose of the reference to the MOA dimensions (2.3.6)
was to make it so there were smaller bodies allowed for both classes.
If a small body IS allowed, 2.5.8 needs to go away.
If a shafty has to have a larger body then (See Sec 2.3.6) should be removed from 2.5.6.
Make sense? ;-)

Re: RCCA / USRCCA Rulesets
 

I think the only reason 2.3.6 was even mentioned in the Shafty area was to point out the 2.2 Pro dimensions. Otherwise, the reference to 2.3.6 doesn't need to be there at all.

As far as I know, 8x3x3 is only available for 2.2 Pro.

Re: RCCA / USRCCA Rulesets
 

What are your thoughts JohnRobHolmes?

Re: RCCA / USRCCA Rulesets
 

The 2.2 Pro class has the smaller bodyless dims and the 2.2 shafty class does not allow bodyless and has the dims as outlined in 2.5.8. 2.3.6 is referenced to indicate what is not allowed, but I agree that it should be rewritten cleaner.

Re: RCCA / USRCCA Rulesets
 

Progress. Next gate...

"thumbsup"

J

Re: RCCA / USRCCA Rulesets
 

Sooooo, is 2.1.6 officially removed from the rules?

Reading between the lines I think that's what JRH is saying with the numbering system comment.
But would really like confirmation.
Cheers
Mike

Re: RCCA / USRCCA Rulesets
 

If it's not there, it's not coming back.

Re: RCCA / USRCCA Rulesets
 

Sweet, that's what I wanted to hear. Thanks JRH. "thumbsup"

Re: RCCA / USRCCA Rulesets
 

First post updated with some changes.

The original trail class is now "Stock Trail" to reflect the focus on having all mostly stock vehicles competing together. Tire restrictions are smaller in scope, and there is a 3 channel limit.

"Unlimited Trail" and "Mod Trail" vehicle definitions have been added. Read carefully, there is a little gem in there :D


All Trail classes include traditional gated "rock crawling" comp regulations along with off road disciplines such as rock racing, hill climbs, sled pulling, and other similar activities. A host may simply choose which types they want to run, so they can create an event that fits with their location and vision.

I will be breaking out the course and judging documentation from the vehicle descriptions soon so that this is all easier to understand.

Re: RCCA / USRCCA Rulesets
 

I'm in need of a clarification on body rules, does the 3" height cover both "body-less" 2.2 class trucks as well as trucks still using lexan bodies in the 2.2 and 2.2 Shafty classes?

I'm mounting Parma X-Citer bodies on my Losi Comp and Night Crawlers and just want to make sure they're legal if I do go and comp them.


Thanks!

Re: RCCA / USRCCA Rulesets
 

The old style bodies are legal in both classes.
What's new is that also smaller (shorter and narrower) bodies are now allowed in 2.2 Pro (but not in 2.2S).

Re: RCCA / USRCCA Rulesets
 

Ok, thanks! Wanted to trim that bottom inch off the body but for some reason was thinking it was a 4.5" minimum height...........it was also 1:30am or so when I asked......

Re: RCCA / USRCCA Rulesets
 

The 2.2s class does have the same 3" height requirements for bodies as the 2.2P class. I'll be breaking down each vehicle definition in the coming weeks into separated documents so there isn't so much bouncing around and "refer to rule XX" referencing.

Re: RCCA / USRCCA Rulesets
 

Thanks John"thumbsup"

Re: RCCA / USRCCA Rulesets
 

Finally something new I can get into...time to build me an "Unlimited Trail" rig :mrgreen:

Re: RCCA / USRCCA Rulesets
 

Seems like a fun rig to me too! Basically a Super style rig with big body and 6" tire height limit.


I've also added the Mod vehicle definitions, which is a shafty only vehicle. A Stock rig can easily become a Mod rig with a wheelbase stretch and knuckle weights.

Re: RCCA / USRCCA Rulesets
 

Hey, I found the missing Rules Committee. They're in 3.1 of Traditional from the first post.

Re: RCCA / USRCCA Rulesets
 

I love where this modified trail class is going! So, I'm wondering, the only gate listing is 16", that seems fine for the C3, but makes for not much of a challenge in the c2 and c1, should we have a few regulations between these three to better fit there tire size???"thumbsup"

Re: RCCA / USRCCA Rulesets
 

Are the scale accessories required for all of the trail events or just the G6?

Re: RCCA / USRCCA Rulesets
 

Where the rules for unlimited mini

Re: RCCA / USRCCA Rulesets
 

1. 4 wheels
2. fit it through a 12 in wide gate.

done

Re: RCCA / USRCCA Rulesets
 

Dont matter on size of wheels 1.9 2.2 40s. 49s in etc

Re: RCCA / USRCCA Rulesets
 

See rule 1 or rule 2 for clarification."thumbsup"

Re: RCCA / USRCCA Rulesets
 

Except I dont think #1 is actually a rule. I think only #2 is?

Re: RCCA / USRCCA Rulesets
 

6x6 super mini...... if you build it they will come....

Re: RCCA / USRCCA Rulesets
 

My mind went to tracks....

What about 2 wheels? It would be sick if you could make a trials bike course!

Re: RCCA / USRCCA Rulesets
 

4 wheels is a general vehicle rule for all classes at this point. I would need to add the exception of unlimited number of wheels to the unlimited rules.



We can make a mini bike racing course, lol.