Intelligent Design VS Evolution

[CantonAreaCrawler]

Just finished a great book by Ray Comfort Intelligent Design VS Evolution letters to an Atheist. I must say once I started to read this book it was hard to put it down. Makes you think. Has anyone else had the pleasure to read this book? What are your thoughts on the subject. I ASK THAT BOTH SIDES PLAY NICE!"thumbsup"

 

[CantonAreaCrawler]

I just can not beleave that this all just happened by chance.

 

[Duuuuuuuude]

Whoa. Deja vu. Where have I seen a thread like this before...:ror:

I have no problem with evolution, and I have no problem with the idea of being manufactured. It doesn't hurt my ego either way.

I'll be sure and read the book. I haven't picked one up in a while...

 

[Duuuuuuuude]

The biggest problem with ID is its major supporters. They have a very snotty, almost childish attitude towards science in general. I have yet to see one make a really good argument for ID, they mainly just poke holes (or think they are poking holes) in scientific theory and call it a win.

They also use a lot of quotation marks whenever they use the word science or scientist like they are made up things. Which is humorously ironic.

 

[Skeeno]

x2 on what Duuuuuuuuuuude said

 

[JasonInAugusta]

Intelligent design.

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Evolution.

 

[TEDROCKZ]

^ Or was it Evolution from stock Wraiths to now bad ass IFS wraiths...?:ror:

Edit: I missed the "evolution" on the second pic.....

 

[Duuuuuuuude]

Intelligent design.

Evolution.

Wait just a cotton pickin' minute. You got intelligent design in your evolution! You can't do that!





:ror:

 

[RANOVRU]

Ill definately have to check out the book now.


Speaking on the subject though, I would have to say ID lacks facts. At least in terms of %'s versus science.

 

[RANOVRU]

Intelligent design.

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Evolution.

Youre a complex fellow nay?

 

[Duuuuuuuude]

Speaking on the subject though, I would have to say ID lacks facts. At least in terms of %'s versus science.

It is almost entirely devoid of facts. All arguments for it are essentially crap. It is just insane to me to think that it has progressed as much as it has. The attitudes of its proponents are so quick to dismiss science, yet latch on and champion any scientist that even winks in their direction.

If you were to remove ID from the equation and focus solely on the behavior and comments of the people involved, you can tell that there is something foul afoot.

In fact, if you think about it hard enough and long enough, evolution does not disprove God. For that matter, 99.9% of science does not disprove God. All that it might call into question are some of the stories in the bible. That's it. There is no rational reason that the religious community should be afraid of science. At all.

If you want to believe in ID, fine. But please, please, please fact check ID propaganda. Go to actual scientific research for explanations. There is so much mucky-muck floating around the Creationist community that makes it difficult to have any real understanding of anything related to science...which is exactly what they want.

Poke around here if you have the time...

TalkOrigins Archive: Exploring the Creation/Evolution Controversy

 

[Duuuuuuuude]

From wikipedia:

Since the publication of Charles Darwin's On the Origin of Species in 1859, the attitude of the Catholic Church on the theory of evolution has slowly been refined. For about 100 years, there was no authoritative pronouncement on the subject. In the 1950 encyclical Humani generis, Pope Pius XII confirmed that there is no intrinsic conflict between Christianity and the theory of evolution, provided that Christians believed that the individual soul is a direct creation by God and not the product of purely material forces. Today, the Church's unofficial position is an example of theistic evolution, also known as evolutionary creation, stating that faith and scientific findings regarding human evolution are not in conflict, though humans are regarded as a special creation, and that the existence of God is required to explain both monogenism and the spiritual component of human origins. Moreover, the Church teaches that the process of evolution is a planned and purpose-driven natural process, actively guided by God.

 

[RANOVRU]

It is almost entirely devoid of facts. All arguments for it are essentially crap. It is just insane to me to think that it has progressed as much as it has. The attitudes of its proponents are so quick to dismiss science, yet latch on and champion any scientist that even winks in their direction.

If you were to remove ID from the equation and focus solely on the behavior and comments of the people involved, you can tell that there is something foul afoot.

In fact, if you think about it hard enough and long enough, evolution does not disprove God. For that matter, 99.9% of science does not disprove God. All that it might call into question are some of the stories in the bible. That's it. There is no rational reason that the religious community should be afraid of science. At all.

If you want to believe in ID, fine. But please, please, please fact check ID propaganda. Go to actual scientific research for explanations. There is so much mucky-muck floating around the Creationist community that makes it difficult to have any real understanding of anything related to science...which is exactly what they want.

Poke around here if you have the time...

TalkOrigins Archive: Exploring the Creation/Evolution Controversy

I agree with you and your post but I thought this was the 'open minded to everything' guy I was talking to. ;-)

 

[Duuuuuuuude]

I agree with you and your post but I thought this was the 'open minded to everything' guy I was talking to. ;-)

I'm tired and loopy from my cold medicine. If you did something there, it went right over my head. You'll have to speak slowly and plainly for the rest of the evening. :ror:

 

[ctrwannabe]

Would extraterrestrial creationism be a whole other thread?

 

[Duuuuuuuude]

Would extraterrestrial creationism be a whole other thread?

That would be a bigger threat to ID than science ever would. :ror:

 

[ctrwannabe]

That would be a bigger threat to ID than science ever would. :ror:

They would loose their heads !

 

[Duuuuuuuude]

They would loose their heads !

Truly. Though it is not too much of a stretch to consider it.

 

[ctrwannabe]

Truly. Though it is not too much of a stretch to consider it.

Lots of unexplained stuff in the world. Prety interesting stuff once you start looking into everything.

 

[JasonInAugusta]

Youre a complex fellow nay?

Yup. Threw some mitosis in there. See how it went from one to two?

Bet you didn't catch that.

:lol: