spaceman5280
Quarry Creeper
I was kidding about keep trying, your incessant copy and paste from the Bible is not helping your case.
You need to demonstrate that your god claim is credible.
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Do you believe in God,Heaven or Hell?
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I was kidding about keep trying, your incessant copy and paste from the Bible is not helping your case.
You need to demonstrate that your god claim is credible.
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ThatJeeper2017
Rock Crawler
I’d like to see some credibility for your case.
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spaceman5280
Quarry Creeper
My case is that all claims of a god are false until proven and we are all waiting for you and yours to prove your case and become the most famous people in all of human history.
The burden of proof is on you.
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DavidH
Quarry Creeper
I do not know what 'case' of his you are referring to, but I wonder just what are you hoping to accomplish?
That if you can find someone else that is wrong about something, that this would somehow automatically make you less wrong?
StomperCrawler
RCC Addict
For all those bashing the Bible and saying that it's not proper evidence or citation, I'd just like to say that:
1) As God's divine word to us, it's THE authoritative citation,
2) As a historical book, most of which is over 1900 years old, and parts of which are thousands of years old, it's more LEGIT historical evidence than any fanciful creation that pops into the mind of man (evolution and the big bang theory come to mind), and
3) In it, the definition of wisdom is stated clearly by the most intelligent man who ever lived, King Solomon: "The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom." Without that, you might as well give up on finding any answers.
1) As God's divine word to us, it's THE authoritative citation,
2) As a historical book, most of which is over 1900 years old, and parts of which are thousands of years old, it's more LEGIT historical evidence than any fanciful creation that pops into the mind of man (evolution and the big bang theory come to mind), and
3) In it, the definition of wisdom is stated clearly by the most intelligent man who ever lived, King Solomon: "The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom." Without that, you might as well give up on finding any answers.
ThatJeeper2017
Rock Crawler
I’d like to see better proof for the Big Bang theory, or even why God is fake, and what goes against the evidence.
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spaceman5280
Quarry Creeper
For all those bashing the Bible and saying that it's not proper evidence or citation, I'd just like to say that:
1) As God's divine word to us, it's THE authoritative citation,
2) As a historical book, most of which is over 1900 years old, and parts of which are thousands of years old, it's more LEGIT historical evidence than any fanciful creation that pops into the mind of man (evolution and the big bang theory come to mind), and
3) In it, the definition of wisdom is stated clearly by the most intelligent man who ever lived, King Solomon: "The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom." Without that, you might as well give up on finding any answers.
You should read legit bible scholars such as Bart Ehrman...
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spaceman5280
Quarry Creeper
The machine from which you are making false claims has the answers to all of your questions if you have the courage to look...
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Jerseycrewmax
Newbie
So I’m not religious at all but had something happen Saturday that has me scratching my head.
I’m set to go to the mall with my wife and son, before we go we run a few errands in town. We then get on the Garden State Parkway a 6 lane highway for those that don’t know. Well I’m driving and I’m about halfway to the mall when I notice a black Honda Accord stopped on the shoulder. It catches my eye as my mother has one just like it. As I’m passing I see that it actually is my mother. I call her up and she’s in a bit of a panic as her car became disabled on the highway literally 1-2 minutes before I called her. My mom is on the older side and she doesn’t speak great English so having me right there for that situation was very lucky.
So clearly it could have just been a coincidence but it I can’t shake the feeling that there is more to it.
And yes this is a true story and no my mother and I had not spoken about what either of us were doing that day. This all kinda just happened.
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I’m set to go to the mall with my wife and son, before we go we run a few errands in town. We then get on the Garden State Parkway a 6 lane highway for those that don’t know. Well I’m driving and I’m about halfway to the mall when I notice a black Honda Accord stopped on the shoulder. It catches my eye as my mother has one just like it. As I’m passing I see that it actually is my mother. I call her up and she’s in a bit of a panic as her car became disabled on the highway literally 1-2 minutes before I called her. My mom is on the older side and she doesn’t speak great English so having me right there for that situation was very lucky.
So clearly it could have just been a coincidence but it I can’t shake the feeling that there is more to it.
And yes this is a true story and no my mother and I had not spoken about what either of us were doing that day. This all kinda just happened.
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StomperCrawler
RCC Addict
What a blessing for your family!
Jerseycrewmax
Newbie
That’s definitely what my mom thought. I’m just glad I was there.
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For all those bashing the Bible and saying that it's not proper evidence or citation, I'd just like to say that:
1) As God's divine word to us, it's THE authoritative citation,
2) As a historical book, most of which is over 1900 years old, and parts of which are thousands of years old, it's more LEGIT historical evidence than any fanciful creation that pops into the mind of man (evolution and the big bang theory come to mind), and
3) In it, the definition of wisdom is stated clearly by the most intelligent man who ever lived, King Solomon: "The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom." Without that, you might as well give up on finding any answers.
Using the bible to qualify the statements in the bible is circular reasoning. We've been over this before. By that measure, Winnie the Pooh is just as real as God.
We'd all like better proof for the Big Bang, and good news, they're actively working on it. Through an enormous amount of effort and incredibly complex mathematical models, it is nearly inconceivable that it could have happened any other way. There really is no other working explanation.
Let me ask you this: how do you determine that other gods and/or religions are false? What method or metric do you use to make your judgement?
ThatJeeper2017
Rock Crawler
I believe that other religions are false because the belief in the Hebrew God is based off of one book dating back thousands of years, while other religions rely on created gods and prophets. I simply use experience as my form of judgement, because of how my life turned around after I found God.
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DavidH
Quarry Creeper
DavidH
Quarry Creeper
DavidH
Quarry Creeper
What a blessing for your family!
If only this god was a more powerful god, so that it could have attempted to keep the car running, and not have it break down where it did.
DavidH
Quarry Creeper
They all appear to be created to me.
When you speak of your experience, was it anything testable, repeatable, presentable? Does it rise above what could be explained by coincidence and confirmation bias? No?
Only about 2000 years.
What about the Egyptian gods? They are much older than yours.
Does the koran ring any bells? Or Allah? Again older than your god.
Besides Jesus was a prophet of Allah. Atleast according to the muslims.
The Norse sagas are older than the bible. So is the Greek mythology. Even the native american religion is older than your upstart. Not to mention the Australian aboriginals.
All those mentioned, apart from the Australians, have written "proof" of their deities. What makes you so arrogant and selfish to proclaim your flimsy paperback to be in any way better?
Give proof that their gods are false. If you can.
Your bible was written by humans just like everything else on this planet.
DavidH
Quarry Creeper
The bible is true because its says so...
Scientific evidence too. How else would we know how the world around us works, if not for the bible?
I fear gods as much I fear getting a lump of coal in my stocking this Christmas.3) In it, the definition of wisdom is stated clearly by the most intelligent man who ever lived, King Solomon: "The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom." Without that, you might as well give up on finding any answers.
Australian Aborginals recorded their history and stories via rock / cave paintings. Some rock paintings have been reliably and accurately dated to be 28,000 years old. Other rock paintings found have been estimated to be 40,000 years old....
Makes the 2,000 year old stories of the bible the ‘new kid on the block’.
Then again, if you’re a believer of the bible I guess there’s no possibility the earth could be that old.....
