Do you believe in God,Heaven or Hell?

[DavidH]

It is not good to be like this, if we have the ability we should try our best to stop all forms of evil things. As the bible tells us, we are all the sinners. Some people maybe are just to weak to stop evil, but does not mean their cold blood or low in morals standards. Ya Maybe.....


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In this scenario it was well within my ability to intervene. There was no risk of injury or repercussions. I simply watched and allowed it to happen. And it remained secret, as I said nothing.

In your words, what kind of person does that make me?

 

[Teng]

Selfish. But I am not a judge. I can’t judge anybody. I was second generation Chinese born in Malaysia and I used to be worship Chinese’s transitional gods. Until I met God in 1990 and become born again Christian.

Before I came to the Lord, I was very selfish person( you know I am a sinner right? ) if I were you in this scenario I will just ignore and keep silent like what you mentioned. As I don’t want to involve such thing.because it wasn’t my business even I have the ability. I think this is obviously because I am a sinner and selfish guy.

Thank you Jesus for saving me such a sinner and taught me to love on each other. [emoji4]


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[Scrap]

I can't believe you fell for that!

Teng, you think we don't need a justice system then?

 

[spaceman5280]

Selfish. But I am not a judge. I can’t judge anybody. I was second generation Chinese born in Malaysia and I used to be worship Chinese’s transitional gods. Until I met God in 1990 and become born again Christian.

Before I came to the Lord, I was very selfish person( you know I am a sinner right? ) if I were you in this scenario I will just ignore and keep silent like what you mentioned. As I don’t want to involve such thing.because it wasn’t my business even I have the ability. I think this is obviously because I am a sinner and selfish guy.

Thank you Jesus for saving me such a sinner and taught me to love on each other. [emoji4]


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You didn’t find god, you found a different oppressive mythology with which to abuse yourself.

Please think for yourself and read more than just your bible.


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[Teng]

Blessing to you Spaceman5280 and Scrap

34Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. 35And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever. 36If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. JOHN 8 King James Bible

Indeed Jesus gave me the power to overcome sins( I don’t mean I am sinless or 100% free from sin ) occasionally I still fall , but through prayers I am stand up again, as Time passed I am getting stronger and stronger to resist sin. I am 46 now.

It was God’s grace and power to saved me. Thank you Jesus Christ and I pray for all of you here, May God truly bless you all here and your family [emoji4][emoji4]


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[DavidH]

Selfish. But I am not a judge. I can’t judge anybody. I was second generation Chinese born in Malaysia and I used to be worship Chinese’s transitional gods. Until I met God in 1990 and become born again Christian.

Before I came to the Lord, I was very selfish person( you know I am a sinner right? ) if I were you in this scenario I will just ignore and keep silent like what you mentioned. As I don’t want to involve such thing.because it wasn’t my business even I have the ability. I think this is obviously because I am a sinner and selfish guy.

Thank you Jesus for saving me such a sinner and taught me to love on each other. [emoji4]

Jesus taught you to idly stand by while children are raped, to do nothing (even when you can), and to say nothing, not even to tell others about it?

I suppose if you beleive that Jesus is still somehow magically around after all this time, that is *exactly* what he does, and is the example you are following.

And, to be clear, this is what you call "love"? Is that what you would tell that child?

 

[Teng]

Jesus taught me to idly? Jesus will not and never teach like this. Instead the bible tells us to expose darkness [emoji4] but I would ( maybe ) will do nothing if I have not been saved by Jesus Christ, as I honest to tell you previous posts. I am sorry if I don’t fully understand what you mean here. Anyway I want Jesus bless you all here.


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[DavidH]

Jesus taught me to idly? Jesus will not and never teach like this.

Is this not what Jesus teaches by example, to idly stand by while children are raped?

 

[Teng]

No.


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[DavidH]

No.

You'll need to explain.

If Jesus is not a figment of your imagination, then he is, by example, teaching us to idly stand by while children are raped.

Which is it?

 

[Teng]

Yes, I am willing to explain ( try my best ) but I do not know where you got this idea that Claimed Jesus ask us to idly? God is Righteous God and Holy is His name.


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[Teng]

Enumeration. The Westminster Shorter Catechism's definition of God is merely an enumeration of his attributes: "God is a Spirit, infinite, eternal, and unchangeable in his being, wisdom, power, holiness, justice, goodness, and truth."


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[DavidH]

Yes, I am willing to explain ( try my best ) but I do not know where you got this idea that Claimed Jesus ask us to idly?

I don't care what is claimed, I am simply deducing this from what we observe.

If Jesus is not a figment of your imagination, then he is, by example, teaching us to idly stand by while young children are raped.

How else can you explain why Jesus permits the rape of young children?

Or is this a good thing because this is what Jesus does?

 

[spaceman5280]

Blessing to you Spaceman5280 and Scrap

34Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. 35And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever. 36If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. JOHN 8 King James Bible

Indeed Jesus gave me the power to overcome sins( I don’t mean I am sinless or 100% free from sin ) occasionally I still fall , but through prayers I am stand up again, as Time passed I am getting stronger and stronger to resist sin. I am 46 now.

It was God’s grace and power to saved me. Thank you Jesus Christ and I pray for all of you here, May God truly bless you all here and your family [emoji4][emoji4]


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Save your blessings and prayers and open your mind to the probability that you are wrong and your wrongness is a net negative in your life and to the overall society.

The only reason I engage in this type of discussion is because people who believe false things such as your claims also tend to believe other falsities and they make bad decisions at the ballot box as well as in charitable donations that increase the suffering in the world.

Remember that we are very similar, we share the rejection of 99% of all god claims, the only difference is I have rejected one more. You are almost there, just a bit of honest study and application of simple critical thinking skills and you will be free.




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[ThatJeeper2017]

Save your blessings and prayers and open your mind to the probability that you are wrong and your wrongness is a net negative in your life and to the overall society.

The only reason I engage in this type of discussion is because people who believe false things such as your claims also tend to believe other falsities and they make bad decisions at the ballot box as well as in charitable donations that increase the suffering in the world.

Remember that we are very similar, we share the rejection of 99% of all god claims, the only difference is I have rejected one more. You are almost there, just a bit of honest study and application of simple critical thinking skills and you will be free.




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Really? Ha! I take it you aren’t willing to accept that your claims may be wrong? I see it as those with deluded minds are those who make the bad decisions in that ballot box and in many aspects of life.


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[StomperCrawler]

I don't care what is claimed, I am simply deducing this from what we observe.

If Jesus is not a figment of your imagination, then he is, by example, teaching us to idly stand by while young children are raped.

How else can you explain why Jesus permits the rape of young children?

Or is this a good thing because this is what Jesus does?

He allows it because he allows free will, and with free will, people choose things like porn, which due to the law of diminishing returns, leads to prostitution, divorce, pedophilia, prison, child abuse, and so forth.

People aren't robots. Even Adam took the forbidden fruit that Eve offered him. Eve fell for Satan's lies that God was holding out on her, keeping something from her that would make her wise.

Over and over, God has tried to help us turn away from wickedness: the flood, tower of Babel, and finally Jesus. If we accept and receive Him then God will send His Holy Spirit to help us overcome evil, but those who don't are easily drawn to the dark side where they perform greater and greater acts of evil.

 

[Teng]

Amen. Let all the glory and power unto our Lord Jesus Christ forever and ever"thumbsup""thumbsup""thumbsup"

 

[spaceman5280]

Really? Ha! I take it you aren’t willing to accept that your claims may be wrong? I see it as those with deluded minds are those who make the bad decisions in that ballot box and in many aspects of life.


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You couldn’t be more wrong, my beliefs progress with modernity, I was raised in a fundy Christian far right home and through rigorous study and application of logic and critical thinking, I make decisions based on evidence, not dogma.

You should try it


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[spaceman5280]

He allows it because he allows free will, and with free will, people choose things like porn, which due to the law of diminishing returns, leads to prostitution, divorce, pedophilia, prison, child abuse, and so forth.

People aren't robots. Even Adam took the forbidden fruit that Eve offered him. Eve fell for Satan's lies that God was holding out on her, keeping something from her that would make her wise.

Over and over, God has tried to help us turn away from wickedness: the flood, tower of Babel, and finally Jesus. If we accept and receive Him then God will send His Holy Spirit to help us overcome evil, but those who don't are easily drawn to the dark side where they perform greater and greater acts of evil.

Citation needed, you can’t just make a claim like that without evidence.


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[StomperCrawler]

Citation needed, you can’t just make a claim like that without evidence.


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Huh, that's interesting. When I quote the Bible they say "Stop quotin' the Bible!" and when I don't quote the Bible they say "Cite your sources!" It seems to me y'all just don't wanna know the truth no matter how it's written! As someone said earlier:

I am not looking for 'truth' as you use the word here

So sad...